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GRANTLAND: Like Magic (Shaun Livingston)

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:59 am
by mkwest
Like Magic

Shaun Livingston, 20 years old and just two years removed from high school in Illinois, was all knees, elbows, and potential. That potential — vision, athleticism, tenacity — was never more evident than in the 2006 playoffs. The no. 6-seeded Clippers had won their first playoff series in 30 years, cruising past the Carmelo Anthony–led no. 3-seeded Denver Nuggets. Tied 2-2 in a series against the offensive juggernaut Phoenix Suns, the Clippers held the momentum, but not the home-court advantage. Elton Brand played like an MVP and Sam Cassell like the savvy veteran point guard he was. Livingston, his apprentice, was the 6-foot-7 playmaker destined to revolutionize the point guard position. He resembled Magic Johnson, the way he peeked over smaller guards and bounced around in his defensive assignments, holding his own against Steve Nash, Leandro Barbosa, and Raja Bell. "A beckoning player in this league, for sure," Nash recalled recently.

Brand, Cassell, Chris Kaman, and Corey Maggette formed the backbone of that Clippers team. But the future lay with Livingston. "Shaun would have definitely been the next All-Star coming up," Brand said.


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"Our staff, we thought that he might be the best player on our team [by now]," said Mike Dunleavy, then-coach of the Clippers. "He's a great defensive player. He's got a great IQ, his shooting was improving every day, and he was getting a little more of a post game. His whole game was coming around."


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"I ripped into his ass," said Cassell, now an assistant with Washington. "He didn't speak to me for a couple of days because of the tone. I verbally went at him. I told him, 'I'm not going to be wide open with eight seconds left in a game. You've got to get the ball to me.' He took it personally. He didn't speak to me, but I didn't care. I've seen the change right there in him: getting guys in the right position, running the offense, not having to rely on me to bring the ball up when guys are on him. I just saw him start to take off from there."


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"There is just no way he should be playing basketball after that injury and the incredible reconstruction that was done to build back all parts of that knee," Lawler said. "The fact that he's walking without a limp, playing the game at the highest possible level — whether he's no more than a journeyman, is still remarkable. What he could have been, we'll never know."


Jonathan Abrams, Grantland

Re: GRANTLAND: Like Magic (Shaun Livingston)

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:10 am
by mkwest
Anyone interested, read the whole article. The brief quotes doesn't do it justice.

I'll never forget the night that Livy got hurt. I wasn't at the game, but was at home watching it with my dad and posting on here. We went on to win the game, but it didn't really matter. I couldn't even process it all right then and there. I was just stunned and disgusted. I knew that he wasn't going to be back that season. I knew that many were going to say that his career was over. I remained hopeful and even sent the guy a few letters and posted to him on a blog that he had at the time.

I'll always root for him no matter what. Watching him signing here and there and then being traded or waived, but there's always someone out there with at least a little interest in him. I think he has a lot of coaches/FO people that are giving him a chance knowing what he's battled back from. I think they want to see a redeeming story out him just as many of us do. As Ralph said, we'll never truly know what he could have been. That's the most frustrating thing. I hate to see talent, potential, skills, gifts, etc. go to waste.

Re: GRANTLAND: Like Magic (Shaun Livingston)

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:50 pm
by mttwlsn16
ya i read this article a couple nights ago. definitely worth the read to anyone who hastn yet read it


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHFs4a-Bb-c[/youtube]

very tough to watch

Re: GRANTLAND: Like Magic (Shaun Livingston)

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:53 pm
by mttwlsn16
Here is the link for the full article. Too long to quote the whole thing on the forum

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/893 ... ba-history

Re: GRANTLAND: Like Magic (Shaun Livingston)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:07 am
by RiversideClips
I thought the Clippers organization, players & fans treated him great & he SCREWED us like Elton Brand's agent; he FALKED us over.
Livingston is dead to me, we pay him for 2+ years and thats not enough? I know there are a ton of Clipper fans who feel for the kid, I am not one of them.

Re: GRANTLAND: Like Magic (Shaun Livingston)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:47 am
by Neddy
i knew we should have picked luol deng or iggy that year. but we still had corey and we went with 6-7 PG who weighted less than 170 LBs at the time of the draft. i liked the kid when we had him, but when he turned down the 2 year offer, i felt the same as riversideclips. in the end, him leaving and brand leaving did open up the door and an opportunity for us to have our current team so i don't hate the young man, i just don't have much attachment to him at all.

without that injury tho, what could have been, is something to ponder. but the same can be said about hank gathers, and if hank didn't die, bo kimble. for that matter, what if danny manning never got himself hurt, or if ron harper didn't blow his knee after the trade from cleveland. i think without his injury, ron harper could have been the guy who rescued this franchise 2 decades early.

Re: GRANTLAND: Like Magic (Shaun Livingston)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:15 am
by JordanLAC
Shaun will always be one of my favorite Clippers of all time. He was truly one of a kind before getting that injury. It still confuses me at times how he could just leave the team like that after all the support they gave him, but glad to see he's still playing.