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Chemistry/ We don't need to make a deal 

Post#1 » by Quake Griffin » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:38 pm

we don't need to make a deal.
i like our core....and our core going forward will win a ring...i have the utmost faith in that...every move like side show bob for deandre or an aging garnett getting ready to retire...

those would be hasty moves.
where DeAndre is headed if Vinny would just give him a DAMN CHANCE makes me have the faith in this core.



but...but...but....
am i the only one worried about the limited number of games we have for this entire group to get together on one accord for the playoffs?

or do we think our next 25 games is enough time/ practice time?
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Post#2 » by mike3 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:49 pm

Agreed with the chemistry, I don't want to see us make ANY moves.

This team has great chemistry, the only thing stopping it from being better with everyone on the roster is injuries.. so for the last amount of games, we shall see, if where healthy, I think we'll be ok.
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Post#3 » by mkwest » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:43 am

Health is the key. If we're healthy, then I like what we have.

I'm not going to lie, a player like Garnett would be a really nice addition, but at what cost? Bledsoe is really important for what he gives us defensively in the backcourt and I would hate to lose that right now. If we're going to move him then I would rather we wait until the offseason where we can make the necessary roster adjustments to compensate for his loss.

25 games is not a lot of time. The benefit is that most of those games are at home and we only have one more road trip (4 games) with only 1 pair of consecutive road games aside from that. As a result, the guys will be able to get better rest in between games and really focus on gearing up for the postseason.

I'm a huge advocate for playing DJ more. I think Vinny opts for Odom over him too much, but DJ has to do his part as well. If he's giving solid defense plus 10/10 in 30 minutes on a more consistent basis, then Vinny would be more willing to giving him minutes. Even if he doesn't put up the double digit scoring, we need him to rebound more consistently (Blake too). When DJ is playing well, then things are probably looking up for us.
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Re: Chemistry/ We don't need to make a deal 

Post#4 » by Quake Griffin » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:25 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--sourc ... 06411.html

welp...the deals back on the table I'm guessing.


great deal for the Celtics.
terrible for us.
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Post#5 » by mkwest » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:58 am

Not Woj :(
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Post#6 » by mkwest » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:18 am

Vinny Del Negro wants KG, willing to give Bledsoe/Jordan for him. Clips front office totally against the move. Front office has final say.

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The thing is that Vinny has nothing to lose. His contract is up at the end of the season, so going all in works out better for him if it's successful.

The problem is that Bledsoe and Jordan are really our only tradeable assets of value. If it was something built around Bledsoe and Odom's expiring contract, then I strongly consider it. If it was Jordan for KG straight up, then I'd do it. If it is both of them, I want at least Bradley coming back this way in the event that it goes down.
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Re: Chemistry/ We don't need to make a deal 

Post#7 » by Quake Griffin » Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:44 am

I'LL list these.

1. i hope the hate for DeAndre is why Vinny won't be invited back.
2. Garnett said this was his last all star game? What the hell does that mean?
3. DeAndre is on the cusp of everything we've ever wanted out of him....not statistically...but developmentally. Can you imagine another offseason?...or another offseason, a season and then another offseason?
4. DeAndre is insecure about how much he's paid. There's a chance we can extend him for the same or less...and this time there won't be a team there to run the price up. Say we do another 4 for 40...he'd actually be worth that this time.
5. If i can get my meme on:

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Post#8 » by TheNewEra » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:52 am

mkwest wrote:Health is the key. If we're healthy, then I like what we have.

I'm not going to lie, a player like Garnett would be a really nice addition, but at what cost? Bledsoe is really important for what he gives us defensively in the backcourt and I would hate to lose that right now. If we're going to move him then I would rather we wait until the offseason where we can make the necessary roster adjustments to compensate for his loss.

25 games is not a lot of time. The benefit is that most of those games are at home and we only have one more road trip (4 games) with only 1 pair of consecutive road games aside from that. As a result, the guys will be able to get better rest in between games and really focus on gearing up for the postseason.

I'm a huge advocate for playing DJ more. I think Vinny opts for Odom over him too much, but DJ has to do his part as well. If he's giving solid defense plus 10/10 in 30 minutes on a more consistent basis, then Vinny would be more willing to giving him minutes. Even if he doesn't put up the double digit scoring, we need him to rebound more consistently (Blake too). When DJ is playing well, then things are probably looking up for us.



thats the thing look at the game logs Jordan has put up numbers but its always in the 17-24 minutes range because even when he plays well or great Vinny still won't play him more time its insane. Jordan wouldn't have been able to even play 30 minutes in the Laker game unless Odom got hurt and even then Vinny tried everything outside of bringing Jordan back in and then we made a run when he finally did.

The trade does not even fix a weakness which is 3pt shooting which keeps us from being number 1 how is KG suppose to fix that?

There is only one game where Jordan played 30+ minutes and did not put up a double-double or a big performance all around only one.

Vinny is a moron and all for himself he does not give a damn about this team or how they fight for each other. Glad when he is gone
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Post#9 » by RiversideClips » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:11 pm

I think "Quake" spells it out rather nicely.
I have no problem trading DJ, buy not for a 37 year old and we we would have to give up Bled. Bled is a chip that we don't have to get rid of right now. We still have 1 Roster spot and you don't know who is going to get bought out after the trade dead line. I'd be patient & think through any deal.
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Post#10 » by TheNewEra » Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:26 pm

Every member of this team has been huge getting us to this point as a top 5 defense and offense. Bledsoe looks ready to go in the off season and if Jordan continues to improve as he has we are set long term for a title
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Post#11 » by Quake Griffin » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:17 pm

someone posted in the GD all the tweets saying garnett wouldn't waive his no trade.

cool.
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Post#12 » by azncorruptedo17 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:40 pm

i'm a huge KG fan... i have no qualms. i'd rather have KG teaching BG everything he knows for the next 2-3 years and make our move for a defensive anchor for less than what DJ was getting OR even go for DJ once his ridiculous contract is over

Don't get me wrong, i like DJ, but BG would benefit more learning the dark arts of the front court D than relying on DJ who's hardly playing anyway.
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Post#13 » by mkwest » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:08 pm

TheNewEra wrote:thats the thing look at the game logs Jordan has put up numbers but its always in the 17-24 minutes range because even when he plays well or great Vinny still won't play him more time its insane. Jordan wouldn't have been able to even play 30 minutes in the Laker game unless Odom got hurt and even then Vinny tried everything outside of bringing Jordan back in and then we made a run when he finally did.

The trade does not even fix a weakness which is 3pt shooting which keeps us from being number 1 how is KG suppose to fix that?

There is only one game where Jordan played 30+ minutes and did not put up a double-double or a big performance all around only one.

Vinny is a moron and all for himself he does not give a damn about this team or how they fight for each other. Glad when he is gone


It wouldn't directly attack our weakness in perimeter defense, but KG is a true bonafide defensive anchor. There aren't really going to be any lapses on the defensive end for KG. His offensive game is miles ahead of DJ. Even in limited minutes, DJ can put up solid numbers that look really good when you extrapolate them over 36 minutes. He also has games where he may have 1 point, 3 rebounds and 2 turnovers over 17-18 minutes. He's gotten a lot better imo, but there are still moments where he's not as focused as he needs to be. For those reasons, it's very tempting to exchange him for KG as a short term improvement. It's a move that would make things very interesting in the 2015 offseason where the only current players under contract would be BG and CP (Crawford has a partial guarantee) and it would make us players in free-agency.

TheNewEra wrote:Every member of this team has been huge getting us to this point as a top 5 defense and offense. Bledsoe looks ready to go in the off season and if Jordan continues to improve as he has we are set long term for a title


I'm happy if we keep the team same as well. I like the group that we have and it would be great to see this collection of players win together. Our name is still in the hat even without a deal made provided we stay healthy. In Jordan's defense, it took someone like Tyson Chandler quite a few years to get to the level that he is at right now, so it all depends how patient you're willing to be.
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Post#14 » by mkwest » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:12 pm

Clippers stars address trade rumors

"I think people are just talking," Paul said. "At the end of the day, who wouldn't want to have Kevin Garnett on their team? I talk about that guy all day, every day, his intensity to the game and how he plays the game. He's a special player. That's a guy right there that I looked up to for a long time. Me and Chauncey (Billups) are really close and he and Chauncey are really close and everything I know about him is that he's a very loyal guy."


"If it's up to me, I will live and die green," Garnett said.


"I love the way he competes as a player," Griffin said. "He's a very, very serious competitor. His level of professionalism is off the charts. Every game, I've heard he's the most intense guy to be around. That's tough to do to play as many games as he's played and still have that level of intensity."


"I think we need to be better," Griffin said. "I think we have enough talent to be a championship contender ... Sometimes you have to plant the seeds and let them grow and all that but with the pieces we have now is the time to continually keep attacking and make those moves to be a championship team."


"Everybody knows I love our team and love the position that we're in right now," Paul said. "We've been playing great basketball. Right now I'm focused on who we have and what we're doing because we're not playing bad ... Whatever we have out there, we're going to fight with. We're like brothers. I love our team and we're moving forward."


Arash Markazi, ESPN Los Angeles


Paul wants to compete for a title with the team constructed as is.
Blake says pull the trigger to improve the team.
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Post#15 » by azncorruptedo17 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:11 pm

mkwest wrote:Paul wants to compete for a title with the team constructed as is.
Blake says pull the trigger to improve the team.


not sure if that's what paul is saying... it looks like he's open to KG and would want him. I'm pretty sure that if we OVER pay, CP3 is gonna say it's not worth it and keeps it as is.

too bad barbosa tore his ACL other wise it woulda been perfect imo.

DJ/EB for KG/Barbosa + Pick since they can EASILY get picks for rondo... woulda worked, but there's no one else unless a 3rd team comes in that will give us a backup pg.

Right now, i don't see any trades possible where it would be beneficial for both teams. someone's going to get jipped and it certainly won't be us.

I'm not hesitant because KG is lightyears ahead of DJ, both contracts end at the same time and we can potentially get DJ back when he's actually matured a little more.
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Re: Chemistry/ We don't need to make a deal 

Post#16 » by Kyle » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:34 pm

VDN is a jakazz. This trade is ungodly bad. Boston better give up b2b 1st round picks for me to even consider this garbage.
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Post#17 » by scoobs07 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:49 pm

DJ/Bled for KG/Bradley makes some sense. Bradley could fill in as a back up PG for 15mpg and play some solid defense.
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Post#18 » by Neddy » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:56 pm

scoobs07 wrote:DJ/Bled for KG/Bradley makes some sense. Bradley could fill in as a back up PG for 15mpg and play some solid defense.


nononononono

i was okay with the idea of KG AND PP coming together for DJ+BLed+fillers like caron and odom, but no way we give up 2 major assets for a 1 year rental of KG.

DJ alone with something like willie green should be more than enough for KG's rental status, they want a premium young PG AND a premium young C AND a draft pick? if KG was 32, yes but he is just barely younger than me by a couple of years. he is an old man and basketball is a youngman's game.
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Post#19 » by mttwlsn16 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:41 pm

keep it as is. DJ/bled is too much to give up for a 1/3 season rental of KG
Bled will be more valuable backing up chris paul for the rest of the season, then trade him in the offseason for something
DJ is young and long and crazy athletic
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Post#20 » by Sofia » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:42 pm

I don't think I'm against the 2 for 1 as rumoured...

Maybe.

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