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Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:11 pm**

Staples Center, 7:30 west, 10:30 east
Grizz starters:

Grizz Bench:
Q, Baymore, Austin Night, Skinny, Darrell Art, White man Leuer

Clipps starters:

Clipps Bench:
6MOY, Bled, Tattoo, Khloe, RyGuy, France, Grover, OG

Well the trip to Memphis didnt pan out well at all. After being up 2-0 its now tied 2-2 after back to back piss poor efforts and executions. Would have been nice to grab one of those and head home up 3-1. Too late now.
Glad to be home, lets take care of business.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:18 pm**

i really didn't think we would lose both game 3 and 4.

with all the momentum on their way, and seeming getting blown out lately, we need our front court to just meet the season average, at least. how many rebounds did DJ have in game 4? 2 boards and 2 points? chauncey and caron combined for 0 points? that won't get it done.

and vinny, if you want to save your damn job, consider giving some of big shot's and jamal's minutes to grover. willie can at least make those spot up 3s and know when not to shoot. he can guard a little too.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:28 am**

Just win this. Go back to TN up 3-2. Don't want a must win IN Memphis. Our guys need to sack up and play like we are capable. That is all

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:16 am**

AngelStrike is going to love what I'm about to say :lol:

I think how this game is officiated will really help determine how this game goes. In game 1, the refs called everything (57 total fouls), they didn't let the physical stuff slide. It worked to our benefit. Games 3 & 4, they really let Memphis be more physical. That works against as it plays to Memphis' strengths. When you combine that with the fact that we've been outrebounded 90-61 (30-10 on offensive glass) over the last 2, it's too much to overcome. We outrebounded them 87-61 (23-12 on offensive glass) in the first 2 home games and that's exactly what the Clippers must get back to doing in order to regain control of this series. It's easy to say that Memphis is a better rebounding team and those first two games were a fluke. Throughout the regular season meetings, the Clippers nearly matched the Grizzlies on the boards (166-162 in Memphis' favor).

I felt we got punked in Memphis. Matt Barnes basically said the same thing. If Memphis is going to the line 31.5 times to our 23.3 attempts per game, then we'd either need to be making a ton of shots or gobbling up rebounds. That's potentially 8 more points that they're getting a chance to score. The Clippers have to make up that difference somewhere. Too many times have we seen them actually play some defense only to not secure the rebound and allow Memphis to have an easy score. We must get stops. BG & DJ need to be committed to attacking the boards. Everyone else needs to make a strong effort to pick up a few more than usual as well. There's no point in trying to run back on offense if it means giving them a second chance opportunity, especially since we haven't been doing all that much in transition anyway.

I just hope that the 2 losses in Memphis serve as a wake-up call to the Clippers.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:27 pm**

mkwest wrote:AngelStrike is going to love what I'm about to say

I think how this game is officiated will really help determine how this game goes. In game 1, the refs called everything (57 total fouls), they didn't let the physical stuff slide. It worked to our benefit. Games 3 & 4, they really let Memphis be more physical. That works against as it plays to Memphis' strengths. When you combine that with the fact that we've been outrebounded 90-61 (30-10 on offensive glass) over the last 2, it's too much to overcome. We outrebounded them 87-61 (23-12 on offensive glass) in the first 2 home games and that's exactly what the Clippers must get back to doing in order to regain control of this series. It's easy to say that Memphis is a better rebounding team and those first two games were a fluke. Throughout the regular season meetings, the Clippers nearly matched the Grizzlies on the boards (166-162 in Memphis' favor).

I felt we got punked in Memphis. Matt Barnes basically said the same thing. If Memphis is going to the line 31.5 times to our 23.3 attempts per game, then we'd either need to be making a ton of shots or gobbling up rebounds. That's potentially 8 more points that they're getting a chance to score. The Clippers have to make up that difference somewhere. Too many times have we seen them actually play some defense only to not secure the rebound and allow Memphis to have an easy score. We must get stops. BG & DJ need to be committed to attacking the boards. Everyone else needs to make a strong effort to pick up a few more than usual as well. There's no point in trying to run back on offense if it means giving them a second chance opportunity, especially since we haven't been doing all that much in transition anyway.

I just hope that the 2 losses in Memphis serve as a wake-up call to the Clippers.

We match up pretty badly against the new look Grizzlies now.I am going to have to stop talking about this soon,but Butler needs to step up of GTFO.Along with Billups,Jordan is more understandable since he is a defensive minded player

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:05 pm**

Everyone needs to play harder rebound and less jumpers.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:30 pm**

I had to share this please guys I saw this comment on a Steph Curry video

Do you think the Lakers could get Stephen Curry???

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:36 pm**

Verballer wrote::offtopic:

I had to share this please guys I saw this comment on a Steph Curry video

Do you think the Lakers could get Stephen Curry???

im not calling you out. but for just starting to follow hoops from playing 2k, u seem to know a LOT about the clippers, now and past. now this...are u a laker fan in hiding? :eek1:

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:58 pm**

mttwlsn16 wrote:
Verballer wrote::offtopic:

I had to share this please guys I saw this comment on a Steph Curry video

Do you think the Lakers could get Stephen Curry???

im not calling you out. but for just starting to follow hoops from playing 2k, u seem to know a LOT about the clippers, now and past. now this...are u a laker fan in hiding?

When I like a team I go DEEP.Ask me anything about FC Barcelona and I'll tell you,they're my favorite football team.
I know a lot about the clippers because I started watching breakdown videos,started watching games and I.
It would be funny though,being a lakers fan in disguise.
One day...

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:03 pm**

Haha Arite my b

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:34 pm**

mkwest wrote:AngelStrike is going to love what I'm about to say

I think how this game is officiated will really help determine how this game goes. In game 1, the refs called everything (57 total fouls), they didn't let the physical stuff slide. It worked to our benefit. Games 3 & 4, they really let Memphis be more physical. That works against as it plays to Memphis' strengths. When you combine that with the fact that we've been outrebounded 90-61 (30-10 on offensive glass) over the last 2, it's too much to overcome. We outrebounded them 87-61 (23-12 on offensive glass) in the first 2 home games and that's exactly what the Clippers must get back to doing in order to regain control of this series. It's easy to say that Memphis is a better rebounding team and those first two games were a fluke. Throughout the regular season meetings, the Clippers nearly matched the Grizzlies on the boards (166-162 in Memphis' favor).

I felt we got punked in Memphis. Matt Barnes basically said the same thing. If Memphis is going to the line 31.5 times to our 23.3 attempts per game, then we'd either need to be making a ton of shots or gobbling up rebounds. That's potentially 8 more points that they're getting a chance to score. The Clippers have to make up that difference somewhere. Too many times have we seen them actually play some defense only to not secure the rebound and allow Memphis to have an easy score. We must get stops. BG & DJ need to be committed to attacking the boards. Everyone else needs to make a strong effort to pick up a few more than usual as well. There's no point in trying to run back on offense if it means giving them a second chance opportunity, especially since we haven't been doing all that much in transition anyway.

I just hope that the 2 losses in Memphis serve as a wake-up call to the Clippers.

Turiaf and Hollins need to stay on the bench. They are the biggest culprits in terms of fouling and sucking on the glass. Like I posted before:

Fouling
Ryan Hollins: 12.4 fouls/36, 7.3 MPG
-Ronny Turiaf: 9.4 fouls/36, 12.5 MPG
-Lamar Odom: 5.6 fouls/36, 17.8 MPG
-DeAndre Jordan: 4.9 fouls/36, 24.0 MPG
-Blake Griffin: 4.9 fouls/36, 31.0 MPG

Turiaf + Hollins; 23 fouls in 79 minutes
Blake + Jordan: 30 fouls in 220 minutes

Rebounding
-DeAndre Jordan: 9.7 rebs/36 (6.0 Dreb/36)
-Lamar Odom: 8.6 rebs/36 (6.6 Dreb/36)
-Blake Griffin: 7.3 rebs/36 (5.8 Dreb/36)
-Eric Bledsoe: 6.8 rebs/36 (6.3 Dreb/36)
-Ryan Hollins: 6.2 rebs/36 (2.5 Dreb/36)
-Ronny Turiaf: 4.3 rebs/36 (2.9 Dreb/36)

-Zach Randolph 8.9 rebs/36 (3.9 Oreb/36)
-Marc Gasol 6.6 rebs/36 (1.1 Oreb/36)

Vinny needs to give any minutes he's giving them back to DJ as DJ has been the best rebounder on either team, and he's been right there with Zach in offensive rebound rate (3.7 offensive rebounds/36 to Zach's 3.9). Vinny needs to get over it and just let DJ play, even if he make mistakes, he seems to end up overall bringing positive value.

Yea, take him out when intentional fouling is a possibility, but outside of that, we need him on the court. There's no reason he can't go 36/28/28/4 with the bigs minutes: Blake/DJ/Odom/Barnes. Or even 36/28/30/2, Blake/DJ/Odom/Turiaf.

Play DJ:
1st quarter - 8 mins
2nd quarter - 6 mins
3rd Quarter - 8 mins
4th quarter - 4 mins, break, last 2 minutes if you don't need FT shooters on
Total: 28 minutes

Bledsoe also needs to play much more than 17 MPG. He's been the second best producer after Paul, he isn't turning the ball over, he is scoring efficiently and at a good rate, he's defending well, he's been the best rebounder if size is taken into account, and for this series, the size matchups are good. 17/7/7 per 36 on the series with a .561 TS%.

The advantage of being a deep and versatile team is lost if you just stick to your rotations and don't adjust

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:03 am**

Pretty much agree with all of that og.

Bledsoe struggled in game 3, but for the most part is a game changer and needs to be on the court more. When Jamal's shot is falling, he's a great asset, when he's just chucking them up and attempting crazy hook shots, he's not really helping us. Billups can be money from outside and can actually get to the line, but he was just miserable in game 4. He's not getting a ton of minutes, but if he's not knocking down three's, he's a liability. I know a lot of fans would have preferred Green to remain the start, but it's not going to happen as long as Billups is able to play. It sucks and just makes it all the more important that Billups' shot is falling for him. Hollins and Turiaf wouldn't be that bad if they could merge into 1 player with the best qualities of each.

I know that the bench has been our bread and butter and the saying is that you don't want to go away from what got you there, but BG and CP3 are the 2 best players on the team. They need to be on the floor more than 31 mpg in Blake's case and Paul could play a few more minutes as well. At this point, the team is fighting for their playoff lives. Memphis has done whatever is necessary for them to stay close or maintain the lead. The Clips need to do the same or they'll be saying "what if" a week from now.

Another thing, the Clippers need to show a greater sense of urgency. I know that is a phrase that is commonly used, but how often has the team had to hoist up a bad shot when there is 5 minutes left on the shot clock? We've had moments where we in the bonus with 8 minutes or so left in the quarter. We need to attack at that point. It potentially gets them into further foul trouble and it puts points on the board. Players like Crawford, Billups and Paul are all basically automatic from the charity stripe. Barnes has shot well (85.7% on 14 FTA's) and Blake has been excellent (81.8% on 22 FTA's). Anybody shooting below 75% in the post season has shot less than 4 total free-throw attempts. Everybody else is doing well. We need to exploit it instead of bailing them out by taking low percentage shots.

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:09 am**

FYI, Marc Gasol has just 4 more rebs than DeAndre Jordan in the series despite playing 67 more minutes.

Eric Patten

CLIPPERS NOW IN 'THREE-GAME SERIES,' SAYS PAUL

“Compete harder,” Billups said after Monday’s practice at the team’s training center. “Box out, you’ve got to get to loose balls, you’ve just got to compete. It’s that simple.”

“We’ve done a lot of talking,” Grant Hill said. “The main thing is we just have to come out with a tremendous effort. The intensity level has to rise and you’ve got to play desperate.

“I thought we did a good job of that in the first two games. Game 3, [Memphis] responded well. I didn’t think our energy was good. The fight that we’ve had all season against Memphis was not there. And you kind of think, ‘Game 4, okay, we’ll come back and do a better job of that.’ And we didn’t.”

“That’s why you fight so hard for home court advantage,” said Paul, who is leading the Clippers in scoring, assists and field goal percentage through four games in the series. “We have to come out with the same intensity in Game 5 that we did in 1 and 2 and understand that now it’s a three-game series. We’ve got to play hard and play the way we know we can.

“We don’t want to be that team that loses at home. We’re going to fight. We’re going to scrap.”

Eric Patten, Clippers.com

How the Clippers can bounce back in Game 5

Lean on their stars more

Meanwhile, Paul and Blake Griffin are averaging 35 and 31 minutes per game, respectively. Paul has yet to play more than 36 minutes, and Griffin has yet to log more than 34.

While foul trouble has certainly hampered Griffin’s minutes, he actually played more in Game 3 (33 minutes) when he had five fouls, than in Game 4 (32 minutes) when he only had three. In comparison, Zach Randolph, who also battled foul trouble in Games 1 and 2, played 37 minutes in both Games 3 and 4.

Help off non-shooters more aggressively

In Games 1 and 2, the Clippers thwarted the Grizzlies’ post-ups and high-low action by largely ignoring Memphis’ wings spotting up. Tony Allen and Tayshaun Prince aren’t 3-point shooting threats, so the Clippers were able to help off of them and either hedge or double-team down low.

In Games 3 and 4, however, the Clipper wings were more conservative in their defensive approach, rarely helping off their man and often leaving Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan to try to defend Gasol and Randolph one-on-one. As the rebounding margin and points in the paint show, the results were disastrous.

Stagger the starting lineups’ minutes

Since Paul and Griffin should already be playing more, the changes will have to come from the three players around them.

Whether it’s tweaking the starting lineup by inserting the energy of Matt Barnes or Eric Bledsoe, or just playing those two a little earlier in the game, the Clippers have to figure out a way to have more success in the beginning of games.

Jovan Buha, ESPN Los Angeles

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:20 pm**

biggest game in franchise history?

where does it rank?

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:57 pm**

Quake Griffin wrote:biggest game in franchise history?

where does it rank?

Can't be that high.We ahd bigger games last season in the playoffs

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:48 pm**

It might be though, last year it was very likely the Spurs would bounce us out and we were almost happy just to be on the 2nd round. This year, with Westbrook out, I think we have our realest chance to make a deep run, and this is gonna be the key game for maybe one of the hardest series we're gonna face until the finals. I'M SO HYPED UP!!

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:50 pm**

thinking about going to the game, but my gut feeling isn't feeling to great about tonight... we'll see.

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:16 pm**

Verballer wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:biggest game in franchise history?

where does it rank?

Can't be that high.We ahd bigger games last season in the playoffs

lol, which is the only 2nd time you've ever won a playoff series! unless you are counting the ABA

Posted: **Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:15 pm**

vanjulio wrote:
Verballer wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:biggest game in franchise history?

where does it rank?

Can't be that high.We ahd bigger games last season in the playoffs

lol, which is the only 2nd time you've ever won a playoff series! unless you are counting the ABA

Still stings to get beat the way you guys did last season eh? I know man.... :lol:

Posted: **Wed May 1, 2013 1:00 am**

Are you saying that in the sense that he's a Grizzlies fan? The Grizzlies are a short lives franchise, they have only won one playoff series themselves, the one against SA.

RealGM

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