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Offseason Outlook
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:53 am
by mttwlsn16
this was a solid read, summing up everything we need to do/choices to be made this summer. its all been brought up in random threads, but this article kind of threw it all into one
Offseason Outlook: Los Angeles Clippers
May 9 at 3:41pm CST By Luke Adams
Guaranteed Contracts
Blake Griffin ($16,402,500)1
DeAndre Jordan ($10,986,550)
Caron Butler ($8,000,000)
Jamal Crawford ($5,225,000)
Eric Bledsoe ($2,626,473)
Options
None
Non-Guaranteed Contracts
Grant Hill ($2,045,065; guaranteed for $500,000)
Willie Green ($1,399,507)
DaJuan Summers ($947,907)2
Maalik Wayns ($788,872)2
Free Agents / Cap Holds
Chris Paul ($18,668,431)
Lamar Odom ($12,300,000)
Chauncey Billups ($7,600,000)
No. 25 pick ($957,500)
Matt Barnes ($884,293)
Ryan Hollins ($884,293)
Ronny Turiaf ($884,293)
Draft Picks
1st Round (25th overall)
Cap Outlook
Guaranteed Salary: $43,740,5231
Options: $0
Non-Guaranteed Salary: $4,681,351
Cap Holds: $42,178,810
Total: $90,600,6841
Like the Nets a year ago, the Clippers head into the offseason with their future hinging on a decision from their franchise point guard. Unlike the Nets, who still needed to make a flurry of moves to fill out their starting lineup even after Deron Williams agreed to re-sign for the five-year max, the Clips have a solid core already in place, including a franchise player (Blake Griffin) whose own five-year extension kicks in this summer.
That's not to say Chris Paul's decision doesn't represent a crucial moment for the franchise -- it does. But if Paul were to leave town in search of greener pastures, it wouldn't necessarily be back to the drawing board for the Clippers, who are coming off the first Pacific Division title in team history.
Fortunately for the Clips, all signs all season have pointed toward Paul re-signing in Los Angeles for five years and $107.34MM. Assuming the team remains confident it will have Paul back next season, that means it will be free to move down the offseason to-do list, addressing a number of additional issues that arise with CP3's return.
http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/05/offs ... ppers.html
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:50 am
by mkwest
Nice summation of everything Matt. I like that he listed the salary scenario.
He didn't list SVG, but Gentry, Malone and Scott. Of the 3, I'd prefer Malone even though this would be his first HC job.
He also makes mention of the Matt Barnes situation. This guy has been in the league for 10 years and has only earned $11.3M. This is his last opportunity for a decent payday. Aside from 1 season at $3M, he's been under $2M the rest of the way. He wants a substantial pay increase, which he does deserve. With him being 33, I'm thinking something along the lines of 3yrs/$10M. If he wants the full MLE, do you stick with him or do you go after someone like Tony Allen?
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:19 pm
by azncorruptedo17
mkwest wrote:Nice summation of everything Matt. I like that he listed the salary scenario.
He didn't list SVG, but Gentry, Malone and Scott. Of the 3, I'd prefer Malone even though this would be his first HC job.
He also makes mention of the Matt Barnes situation. This guy has been in the league for 10 years and has only earned $11.3M. This is his last opportunity for a decent payday. Aside from 1 season at $3M, he's been under $2M the rest of the way. He wants a substantial pay increase, which he does deserve. With him being 33, I'm thinking something along the lines of 3yrs/$10M. If he wants the full MLE, do you stick with him or do you go after someone like Tony Allen?
i like matty. he can hit the 3s and spreads the floor. allen is pretty much 1 dimensional.
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:12 am
by mkwest
azncorruptedo17 wrote:i like matty. he can hit the 3s and spreads the floor. allen is pretty much 1 dimensional.
I like Barnes' offensive capabilities better as well. In addition to spreading the floor, he's one of the best cutters in the league.
Otoh, Allen is one of the league's best (if not the best) perimeter defenders (one of our biggest weaknesses) and he's 2 years younger.
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:37 am
by mttwlsn16
dream scenario imo would be keep matty B (and cp obv) but tony allen starting at the 2 would be phenomenal. get someone who can play great D at the 2 guard, with jamal coming in to be the O at the 2 guard.
question: ive been looking at "key dates" for the nba, and i cant seem to find when FA starts. obviously its after the season but can someone find a definitive date? jw...
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:47 am
by mkwest
mttwlsn16 wrote:dream scenario imo would be keep matty B (and cp obv) but tony allen starting at the 2 would be phenomenal. get someone who can play great D at the 2 guard, with jamal coming in to be the O at the 2 guard.
question: ive been looking at "key dates" for the nba, and i cant seem to find when FA starts. obviously its after the season but can someone find a definitive date? jw...
The negotiating period starts July 1st. The moratorium (where they determine the exact financial numbers) usually lasts up to some date in between the 8th to the 10th. After that signings can be officially made.
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:46 am
by mttwlsn16
Ok cool thx mk. U da man. Slightly better than mods from me and Ned's prev forum

Ned can agree

Thank u
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 5:56 am
by Neddy
well technically, we didn't have a mod. we had cracka as a TM and when he got fired for sticking up for us, the faker forum mods resided over. that's like the old soviet doing the patrols for US boarders, or hiring chinese government to handle tibetan human rights agency
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:42 pm
by Quake Griffin
Pissing me off with this Tony Allen talk.
31 years old.
I'm not into investing in those guys unless they're bench players. we need to get younger.
Neddy...come at me brah...but I'm going back to it.
I want OJ Mayo or Monta.
and I'm serious.
how u gonna act?
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:23 pm
by mttwlsn16
rather have tony allen. let him be the D at the 2, while jamal handles the O part.
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:28 pm
by Quake Griffin
deandre can't shoot.
blake is slowly developing.
we don't have a marksmen at the 3.
who can shoot if we sign tony allen?
if we do that move and that move only we essentially become the grizzlies this year except zach and marc can shoot and stretch the floor more.
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:43 pm
by mttwlsn16
that move, plus backage bled and caron for a shooter.
or if no tony allen, package those 2 together for a 2/3 that can shoot lights out
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:02 pm
by Verballer
Quake Griffin wrote:Pissing me off with this Tony Allen talk.
31 years old.
I'm not into investing in those guys unless they're bench players. we need to get younger.
Neddy...come at me brah...but I'm going back to it.
I want OJ Mayo or Monta.
and I'm serious.
how u gonna act?
Thank god somebody has finally said this
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:31 pm
by Neddy
Quake Griffin wrote:Pissing me off with this Tony Allen talk.
31 years old.
I'm not into investing in those guys unless they're bench players. we need to get younger.
Neddy...come at me brah...but I'm going back to it.
I want OJ Mayo or Monta.
and I'm serious.
how u gonna act?
we do need to get younger, but it must not sacrifice our immediate chances at the championship. tony allen is older, but he is right now arguably one of the very best perimeter defenders, and as inept as he is offensively, he can knock down open 3s which he often gets. no thank you to monta, he is just a more aggressive version of jamal which we already have, brings absolutely no defense, undersized for 2 guard position, comes with as much baggage as ron ron. OJ mayo i do not mind, but at what cost? tony allen is a MLE player, monta and OJ will demand DJ's salary and we still have DJ on the roster with blake and CP3 maxing out. we will have to make a lot of moves just to have enough room under the cap and caphold to even have a realistic shot to sign one of them. in the end, i don't see any of the three you mentioned to be signed on. willie green's option will be picked up ( it must, he costs next to nothing in NBA money, and deserves a starter gig the way he shot in latter half of this season) and jamal will come off the bench for the 2 guard position. if anything, we may pick up a SG in upcoming draft. i want barnes resigned, but not for the full MLE. maybe a half of it for the next 2 years plus a team option for the third. we need to trade caron when bledsoe is moved, hope to gain an upgrade either at 2 or 3, but who knows what we can grab there. basically, i don't feel that we can construct our roster full of high salary stars everywhere, therefore we need solid low cost pickups first and then see if we can hit a homerun with bledsoe +filler trade. that trade may not even come up until mid season deadline....
most importantly, there has to be a way to move DJ. his per is very respectable, but his mental lapse and total inability to shoot FTs absolutely is our achilles heel.
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:19 pm
by SportsFan215
Has anyone thought about trying to cut cap space and trying to go after Dwight to form a big 3?
DJ to Portland for Cap space (seen Portland fans talk about it)
Bledsoe/Caron to Utah for Cap space/1st rounder (seen that too)
Basically just leave Blake/Jamal on the roster and resign CP3.
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:40 pm
by mttwlsn16
I've said it before and ill say it again. F Dwight. Piss poor attitude, doesn't care about winning, just wants the spotlight on him so he can act like a clown, and just cares about himself
Absolutely not
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:41 pm
by mttwlsn16
Cp would have to smack the stupid out of him every single night
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:27 pm
by Quake Griffin
mttwlsn16 wrote:I've said it before and ill say it again. F Dwight. Piss poor attitude, doesn't care about winning, just wants the spotlight on him so he can act like a clown, and just cares about himself
Absolutely not
upgrade from DJ.
paint protected.
i'll take stupid to deal with that.
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:16 am
by mttwlsn16
Of course d12>DJ but not for the cost. Paying him Blake and Chris would cut into most of payroll. And IMO he's just too much of a selfish lazy head case
Re: Offseason Outlook
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 2:25 am
by Quake Griffin
hes an automatic 18-12.
as much as blake and deandre disappeared from games this year?
u bring in dwightwith a defensive minded coach?
u kidding me with how far we can go.
he's Matt barnes all over again.
we'll sign him...everyone will hate it.
then 2 games into the season, you'll be thanking the heavens you have him.