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Doc should Know by now his rotations, Im looking at JR smith,Isiah Thomas,etc... When they check in the game they don't come back out. Doc plays crawford about 8 mins the 1st half thats not enough time Im sorry the great season he had last year almost making All-star and Now plays less minutes then Dudley and Reddick? This isn't gonna Fly all season Come on Doc.

No he doesn't, those guys don't have J.J. Redick who fits perfectly with the starting lineup on their team. These aren't the same dynamics, and Jamal was almost an All-Star? Since when? Stephen curry was the next guard in line if any other guard was going to be on the team.

hell no. have you seen jamal play defense? he gets enough minutes as is. i wish he would play less in 4th quarter for that matter. hoping we package him with mullens and get a real legit 3rd big as our 6th man.

yeah, its not as cut and dry as saying crawford needs more minutes. he has pluses and minuses that need to be managed.

it actually might benefit the clips to try to trade him for a decent big. maybe someone like a hawes?

kylem4711 wrote:yeah, its not as cut and dry as saying crawford needs more minutes. he has pluses and minuses that need to be managed.

it actually might benefit the clips to try to trade him for a decent big. maybe someone like a hawes?

1) After Hawes play this season, he might have convinced the Sixers to re-sign him and
2) Hawes would actually be theoretically a good fit next to Noel with Noel playing a PF role like Anthony Davis is
3) Even without that, Crawford is the last player that makes sense for Philly in such a trade. A young player or a pick or something is what makes sense for that team.

So in a three way trade of some sorts, sure, but Crawford still has value to the team as a scorer off the bench, and Collison has struggled a bit. Of course with the theoretical Hawes, the bench can do a lot of two man game with Hawes and Collison and then use Hawes as a passer and one in a while in the post. That can "make up" for the lost Crawford production.

Still, Philly would need a lot more incentive for that one. It's the kind of trade one would do in the summer when it isn't as expected and Hawes hasn't been playing so well yet. He's way above his career numbers though.

.631 TS% - previous career high .517 TS% (avg .510)
3.8 3PA/G - previous career high 1.5 3PA (avg 0.9)
49.1% 3PT - previous career high 35.6% 3PT (avg 33.7%)
53.3% FG - previous career high 48.9% FG (avg 47.0% FG)
18.0 pts/36 - previous career high 14.6 pts/36 (avg 13.8 pts/36)
116 Ortg - previous career high 105 Ortg (avg 101 Ortg)
20.8 PER - previous career high 18.0 PER (avg 14.4 PER)

per 36:
18.0 pts / 11.0 rebs / 3.3 asts / 1.7 blks

So he's certainly playing a LOT better than the player he's been for his career. The 3PT% shouldn't last at 49%, which at the same rate will bring down his FG% to high 40's / lower 50% range, and his TS% to mid-high 50%. We'll see if he sustains this play, but the consistent minutes are certainly helping.

Are you guys serious??? JJ reddick gets torched night in and night out by other SG. Because of his small height 6'2, compaired to Crawford 6'5 The only thing that covers JJ Flaws on D is when he makes a couple jumpers in a row. Crawford was avg more points in way less mins on way less shot attempts a couple games ago, But maybe Im missing something, This isn't the Same team as last year obviously record wise were Worst this year and this isn't the Same system or coach so maybe Crawford is being used different then last year. Whats sad is I believe even though crawford is older then reddick He will last longer in this league because He brings more to the the table then reddick. crawford can still avg 22ppg on a team that actually uses him right.

i think we're doing just fine.

jcross is essential, but only doc knows to what extent.

JJ is a way better fit with the starting lineup. Crawford is putting up some nice % but he can be an inconsistent shooter and a consistent poor defender. I was very supportive of a Crawford trade earlier on however I think we need him. Our bench is terrible. We need Crawford and DC to try and get some points for us while our starters are resting and the rest of the bench needs to focus on defense. A Barnes/Odom/Hollins front court would be very solid defensively. Basically our bench needs to improve so our starters can play less minutes and therefore Crawford will be getting more minutes.

Big Crawford fan, but love Reddick on the court with paul. Since Crawford needs the ball more than Reddick to be effective. Also watching opposing 2 guards Chase JJ around all night is a thing of beauty.

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The only place where Jamal should start ahead of JJ is the And1 Mixtape Tour. Otherwise, anybody who's seen the two play knows that Redick is the better all-around player.

general wrote:Are you guys serious??? JJ reddick gets torched night in and night out by other SG. Because of his small height 6'2, compaired to Crawford 6'5 The only thing that covers JJ Flaws on D is when he makes a couple jumpers in a row. Crawford was avg more points in way less mins on way less shot attempts a couple games ago, But maybe Im missing something, This isn't the Same team as last year obviously record wise were Worst this year and this isn't the Same system or coach so maybe Crawford is being used different then last year. Whats sad is I believe even though crawford is older then reddick He will last longer in this league because He brings more to the the table then reddick. crawford can still avg 22ppg on a team that actually uses him right.

Redick keeps his man in front of him a bit better than Jamal does. He plays the schemes well, he's an active defender, and really his only issue is being left on an island against bigger guys. The only thing Redick is worse than Jamal at on defense is height and length. Jamal is not a better defender than Redick despite having better physical tools.

In terms of who "brings more", both guys can do more than one thing. Redick helps bring more motion to your offense, he can do some ball handling and creating off the sets he's put in. Per 36 for the team so far, he's 19.7 / 2.9 / 2.7.

Jamal brings the ability to create shots off the bounce, per 36 for the team so far, he's 20.7 / 3.1 / 3.1. Redick's added valye is that he commits only 1.2 turnovers / 36 to Jamal's 2.8 turnovers / 36, a little less than half the turnover rate. Redick does this while providing similar production in terms of PPG and APG, just that he isn't doing it from as many isolation sets.

Jamal's career high is 20.6 PPG, and it was in 39.9 MPG. He's never averaged 22 PPG, but if he was averaging 22 PPG on this team, then something would be wrong. His career high per 36 is 20.9 PPG. Jamal is a capable scorer, but let's not get carried away, and he didn't become efficient as a scorer until 08-09.