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Trap Games And The Clippers 

Post#1 » by Wammy Giveaway » Fri May 2, 2014 3:52 pm

A trap game is when a team goes up against an inferior opponent who lacks a well-known or skilled basketball player, holds a worst winning record, or is both of these things. The assumption is the better team will always win against the weaker team, but in actuality, the reverse is more evident because the better team believed in the hype.

Isn't it obvious that of all professional basketball teams, the Clippers are the ones most susceptible to trap games? If the opponent's best player is out, they think they will automatically win the game. If the opponent has a bad record, they think they will automatically win the game. Games 1 and 6 proved the Clippers wrong:

- In Game 1, the Clippers thought the games would be easier that Andrew Bogut is out for the season. Griffin could no longer be baited into technical fouls or getting ejected. When they got Andre Iguodala fouled out, they thought their chances of improved. But then the Warriors went small ball and found a way to get Griffin fouled out. The result was a loss to the Clippers, a win for the Warriors.

- In Game 6, Jermaine O'Neal suffered an injury. David Lee fouled out. Warriors were pushed to go super small. Clippers gained a real advantage, but took them for granted. Andre Iguodala made a three and got Griffin to foul out again. Later, J.J. Redick was fouled out. The result was a loss to the Clippers, a win for the Warriors.

The Clippers have put their focus too much on getting the bigs fouled out and containing the stars that they forgot about the little guys, the role players. They forgot about Marresse Speights and Jordan Crawford. They forgot about the Warriors system and what the role players do to help their stars. This is a fault on personnel scouting, ignoring the little details of the opponent's system, disregarding them as useless. It is because of underestimating the Warriors that they are in the playoffs in the first place. Remember that the Clippers lost three games to Golden State in the 2012-13 season, never mind that their coach was Vinny Del Negro. The habit still lingers.

Trap games exist because it gives elite teams a test. Not just on treating every single opponent as if they're an elite team, but to make sure that the coaching personnel does their homework. The Spurs are the only team who scout opponents thoroughly, like conducting a cavity search. For the Clippers, the scouting has been limited to star players and using their system to counter that of the other team. The Clippers need to do more; they must study the barely used players like Steve Blake and Ognjen Kuzmic, the latter whom I predict we will see playing in a pivotal Game 7. They need to study what the opposing team will try to do once a star player or a key role player is fouled out, something they've been able to do twice, yet ended in a loss.

If the Clippers can do their homework and treat every teammate of the opponent equally, they'll win Game 7.
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Re: Trap Games And The Clippers 

Post#2 » by TheNewEra » Fri May 2, 2014 4:02 pm

Was more poor creativity on offense that loat us game 6. We went away from the offense in game 5 and forced the issue with Blake.
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Post#3 » by East Bay Sports » Fri May 2, 2014 5:38 pm

I disagree completely. This series always had 7 games written all over it. Anyone who watches these two teams battle when they step on the court could have told you that.

This series: 3-3
Regular Season: 2-2
Last season: 3-1 Warriors
2012 season: 2-2

Of all these games more often than not it is highly competitive and comes down to a few possessions. Separating these two teams head to head is splitting hairs and can come down to a couple of key plays and moments. No way in hell the Clippers ever expect an easy win against the Warriors. They know better, and I hope most fans know better.
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Post#4 » by Kyle » Fri May 2, 2014 7:25 pm

Lets be honest. Game 1 & 6 handed to GSW by the refs, and then the DTS game with the distractions. What happened when the refs werent a factor and there wasnt a distraction? Oh yeah a 40 point win, 10 pt win and a 2 pt win. It is what it is.. Series shoulda been over a lot sooner but now its a dog fight and who knows what the NBA wants to happen... they "coincidentally" got their first ever three game 7's in one day so lets hope they are satisfied and let the teams decide game 7, not the refs.
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Post#5 » by East Bay Sports » Fri May 2, 2014 7:55 pm

Kyle wrote:Lets be honest. Game 1 & 6 handed to GSW by the refs, and then the DTS game with the distractions. What happened when the refs werent a factor and there wasnt a distraction? Oh yeah a 40 point win, 10 pt win and a 2 pt win. It is what it is.. Series shoulda been over a lot sooner but now its a dog fight and who knows what the NBA wants to happen... they "coincidentally" got their first ever three game 7's in one day so lets hope they are satisfied and let the teams decide game 7, not the refs.


You guys are out of hand with your crusading against the officials. You can say officiating has been poor, it has been on BOTH sides, but handed us the games? Come on dude. Game 6 Lee was our only semblance of a big man and they fouled him out with 10 minutes to go in the game. It was called way too tight both ways.

Game 5 Draymond, arguably the most important player to our team in this series, was on the bench with two soft touch fouls on Griffin within 2 minutes of the game. You can point to bad calls for both teams in all 6 games. Overall, they are just calling things too tight. But to say they have favored one team over the other? You are reaching. Enjoy your conspiracy theories though, clearly the Clippers are SO much better than the Warriors (Despite the series record being split nearly dead even over the past 3+ seasons) that the only way they could lose is if the refs are out to get them. Makes sense.
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Post#6 » by Angel strike1 » Fri May 2, 2014 8:03 pm

Game 1 and 6 got gifted to warriors. Safe to say refs won going away. They even prob had money on the game.

The only other loss was timing issue.
Should be easy win tomorrow.
To bad we didn't get the rest we deserved
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Post#7 » by East Bay Sports » Fri May 2, 2014 8:42 pm

Angel strike1 wrote:Game 1 and 6 got gifted to warriors. Safe to say refs won going away. They even prob had money on the game.

The only other loss was timing issue.
Should be easy win tomorrow.
To bad we didn't get the rest we deserved


Must be nice to live in an alternate reality where your team is undefeated in your own mind.
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Re: Trap Games And The Clippers 

Post#8 » by og15 » Fri May 2, 2014 10:21 pm

Lol, East Bay replies to every thread on this forum, so funny

I don't think the losses are attributable to trap games. Game 1 loss probably had a lot more to do with Blake hardly playing than the Clippers belong their own hype. Yesterday's loss had a lot to do with terrible play by the two stars forced by GS's adjustments on defense, mainly in regards to Blake as well as the Clippers trying to force the issue.

Also the minutes DJ was out in the 4th certainly didn't help.
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Post#9 » by East Bay Sports » Fri May 2, 2014 11:20 pm

og15 wrote:Lol, East Bay replies to every thread on this forum, so funny


hahahaha discussing basketball on a message board, hilarious
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Re: Trap Games And The Clippers 

Post#10 » by og15 » Fri May 2, 2014 11:23 pm

East Bay Sports wrote:
og15 wrote:Lol, East Bay replies to every thread on this forum, so funny


hahahaha discussing basketball on a message board, hilarious

If you don't actually get why it is funny, not that you are discussing basketball, but that you're even posting more than Clippers fans on threads in the dun, dun, dun, Clippers forum, then you're just being deliberately dense.

I have no problem with you posting, just find your mission to respond to everything quite funny. If it was jut in the Clippers / GS stuff, sure, but CP injury, who the real Clippers fans are, everything, maybe you just don't get why it's funny.
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Post#11 » by East Bay Sports » Fri May 2, 2014 11:32 pm

How is discussing Paul's health not directly related to the Warriors? come on dude.
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Post#12 » by JayClips92 » Fri May 2, 2014 11:55 pm

og15 wrote:
East Bay Sports wrote:
og15 wrote:Lol, East Bay replies to every thread on this forum, so funny


hahahaha discussing basketball on a message board, hilarious

If you don't actually get why it is funny, not that you are discussing basketball, but that you're even posting more than Clippers fans on threads in the dun, dun, dun, Clippers forum, then you're just being deliberately dense.

I have no problem with you posting, just find your mission to respond to everything quite funny. If it was jut in the Clippers / GS stuff, sure, but CP injury, who the real Clippers fans are, everything, maybe you just don't get why it's funny.


I'm pretty sure he doesn't understand that we are posting in the Clipper Forum to talk with other Clipper fans.
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Post#13 » by Neddy » Sat May 3, 2014 12:11 am

og15 wrote:
East Bay Sports wrote:
og15 wrote:Lol, East Bay replies to every thread on this forum, so funny


hahahaha discussing basketball on a message board, hilarious

If you don't actually get why it is funny, not that you are discussing basketball, but that you're even posting more than Clippers fans on threads in the dun, dun, dun, Clippers forum, then you're just being deliberately dense.

I have no problem with you posting, just find your mission to respond to everything quite funny. If it was jut in the Clippers / GS stuff, sure, but CP injury, who the real Clippers fans are, everything, maybe you just don't get why it's funny.


... is the operating word.

he has no intention to discuss clipper basketball, he is trying to get under our skin while deliberately acting koy. he isn't a dumbass, but still is a troll. i have seen these types of shenanigans before. again, somebody up in admin check the IP address. I bet there are other accounts with his alternate personas and crude behavior but diverse traces of personalities he is playing out to cover his tracks and he is giggling up a storm behind the keyboard while doing it.
ehhhhh f it.
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Re: Trap Games And The Clippers 

Post#14 » by og15 » Sat May 3, 2014 12:19 am

East Bay Sports wrote:How is discussing Paul's health not directly related to the Warriors? come on dude.

How is discussing who the real Clippers fans are directly related to the Warriors? Or Jamal winning the 6th man? Or Clippers name change? I mean technically you can just extend and say everything related to the Clippers is now "directly related" to the Warriors because they are playing each other, both NBA teams, both in the West, both in Cali, but that's obviously dumb.

Sterling allegations aren't directly related to the Warriors, but there's some relation since they are playing, not sure if it is 20 posts by you in the thread in the Clippers forum related though. Why do you have the second most posts in the Clippers name change thread? Why are you the first to respond to a thread asking if "you", a general "Clippers fans" you would be open to a name change?

...and if you said "well I just wanted to discuss the 6th man winner" or the Sterling incident, well that's why there is a general NBA board.

That's why I find it funny, and more so because you do your trolling in a passive aggressive manner, and act like the victim when some who are not as lenient are calling you out. You come under the guise of peaceful discourse but then have a trolling signature and have been trolling certain people. I know fans who come to other forums to discuss and they don't look like what you've been doing, sorry. You're sort of passively aggressively attempting to troll people, and it is actually a bit comical, though more annoying for others.
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Post#15 » by East Bay Sports » Sat May 3, 2014 1:08 am

OK man. I've taken measure to stop the turmoil between users and myself (ignore list) but you are totally right, I'm out to troll people. You guys troll yourselves by worrying so much about what I'm doing.
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Post#16 » by LACtdom » Sat May 3, 2014 5:05 am

We need to start rebounding better as a team. If GS made FTs at a high clip like OKC then we probably would have lost the series by now. I was amazed that even after GS were missing Bogut, Lee and O'Neil (i think) we were still getting crushed on the boards.
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Post#17 » by Neddy » Sat May 3, 2014 5:21 am

East Bay Sports wrote: OK man. I've taken measure to stop the turmoil between users and myself (ignore list) but you are totally right, I'm out to troll people. You guys troll yourselves by worrying so much about what I'm doing.


Im quoting this in case he edits his post in the future.
ehhhhh f it.
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Re: Trap Games And The Clippers 

Post#18 » by Angel strike1 » Sat May 3, 2014 7:00 am

East Bay Sports wrote:
Angel strike1 wrote:Game 1 and 6 got gifted to warriors. Safe to say refs won going away. They even prob had money on the game.

The only other loss was timing issue.
Should be easy win tomorrow.
To bad we didn't get the rest we deserved


Must be nice to live in an alternate reality where your team is undefeated in your own mind.


What would u know about reality u can't even figure were gs form is.
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Re: Trap Games And The Clippers 

Post#19 » by Angel strike1 » Sat May 3, 2014 7:02 am

East Bay Sports wrote:
Kyle wrote:Lets be honest. Game 1 & 6 handed to GSW by the refs, and then the DTS game with the distractions. What happened when the refs werent a factor and there wasnt a distraction? Oh yeah a 40 point win, 10 pt win and a 2 pt win. It is what it is.. Series shoulda been over a lot sooner but now its a dog fight and who knows what the NBA wants to happen... they "coincidentally" got their first ever three game 7's in one day so lets hope they are satisfied and let the teams decide game 7, not the refs.


You guys are out of hand with your crusading against the officials. You can say officiating has been poor, it has been on BOTH sides, but handed us the games? Come on dude. Game 6 Lee was our only semblance of a big man and they fouled him out with 10 minutes to go in the game. It was called way too tight both ways.

Game 5 Draymond, arguably the most important player to our team in this series, was on the bench with two soft touch fouls on Griffin within 2 minutes of the game. You can point to bad calls for both teams in all 6 games. Overall, they are just calling things too tight. But to say they have favored one team over the other? You are reaching. Enjoy your conspiracy theories though, clearly the Clippers are SO much better than the Warriors (Despite the series record being split nearly dead even over the past 3+ seasons) that the only way they could lose is if the refs are out to get them. Makes sense.



Draymond being ur most important playerrrrr.lool

And lee getting kicked Helps u case he couldn't play d to save his life.

But ya drugs fun. Enjoy elimination tommorow
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Re: Trap Games And The Clippers 

Post#20 » by Angel strike1 » Sat May 3, 2014 7:05 am

FYI u. East bay was same dude posting in gs forms that "warning clipper form people are but hurt about..."

Lol

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