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For the Love of J.J. 

Post#1 » by Ranma » Thu May 15, 2014 8:37 pm

Jared Dubin, Grantland (5/15/14)
In college, Redick was a superstar who operated mostly as a long-range sniper, rarely looking to create for others. As he saw more and more floor time in Orlando, he began to be used increasingly as a secondary ball handler — running the pick-and-roll with Dwight Howard or Ryan Anderson after receiving a kickout pass from the likes of Jameer Nelson. His per-36 minutes assist totals, as well as his assist percentage, rose with each passing year (with the exception of the 2010-11 campaign, when he battled injury issues), to the point where he assisted on 20 percent of teammate baskets during the 2012-13 season, a number matched or exceeded by only 15 other non–point guards.
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Doc Rivers, Blake Griffin, and Chris Paul have all sung his praises over the last year, and Redick was singled him out by Stan Van Gundy at the Sloan Sports Analytics Conference in 2013 as a player who could always be counted on to make the correct rotation. That’s a far cry from the player who couldn’t get on the court early in his career because he was such a defensive liability.
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Redick’s become such a beacon for the Duke ethos that Coach K apparently showed an inspirational video that detailed Redick’s accomplishments and work ethic to the Blue Devils in the summer of 2012 to set an example for his players to follow.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrrD_Z2lbHw[/youtube]

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Post#2 » by mttwlsn16 » Thu May 15, 2014 11:32 pm

He needs to play more late in games
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Post#3 » by Neddy » Fri May 16, 2014 12:59 am

this is the problem I see with our shooting guard rotation.

JJ's biggest asset is what the OP's video suggests, his conditioning. he runs around the circles on his defenders for the entire game. by the 4th quarter, whoever is guarding JJ is gassed. but with us, JJ doesn't play enough minutes make that impact on the defenders, but instead we have Jamal, who plays a lot more Iso's rather than running through blocks all day like JJ. defenders guarding Jamal will have their hands full, but guarding a iso player doesn't involve so much running to leave you gasping.
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Post#4 » by TheNewEra » Fri May 16, 2014 7:05 am

JJ damn sure should of played more tonight but we will see how it happens next year.
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Post#5 » by LACtdom » Fri May 16, 2014 10:35 am

JJ is really our ONLY decent 3pt shooter, everyone else is inconsistent.
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Post#6 » by QRich3 » Fri May 16, 2014 11:54 am

JJ is a perfect fit offensively and he should be playing 30+ minutes. I'm sorry for Jamal cause he's been a lovely dude and it's a delight watching him go 1 on 5, but after this playoffs I'm more convinced than ever, he needs to go. He makes both our offense and our defense worse. Maybe get a defensive wing to switch with Redick at the end of games for defensive possessions, or maybe Reggie is ready to assume that role already. But we can't have a defensive liability getting subbed by an even bigger one, who as much fun as he is, makes our offense worse and has two superstars watching him iso for a 40% jump shot.
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Post#7 » by TheNewEra » Fri May 16, 2014 4:35 pm

Jamal has won us games not only during the regular season but post season. Look at game 5 Jamal kept the Thunder at bay during our comeback you can't hold a bad game against him. Even game 4 it was him and DC it may not be pretty but until Paul and Blake increase shot selection someone is going to have to take them.
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Post#8 » by QRich3 » Fri May 16, 2014 5:40 pm

Yeah of course he'll win us games here and there, but both him and Collison are very detrimental to our defense and freelance too much to add anything to a team that is already the best offensive team in the game. We don't need another offensive option, we have enough with Paul and Blake's 2 man game surrounded by shooters and DJ's lob threat. If/when we need isolation plays Paul is good enough to get a decent shot as he's showed countless times. You start going out of the system for hero ball and all kind of variables get in.

I thought Crawford was the main culprit of us not being able to buy a bucket at the end of game 5, yeah Doc, Paul and the rest of them deserve some blame for enabling him, but he was the one waving people off to take horrible shots 1 vs 5.

Look at this graphic from Tom Haberstroh's report on the matter:

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He had the highest usage of any Clipper this postseason, up to 30% in the series against OKC!! You cannot do that as a career 53 TS% when you have Paul and Blake just standing there staring at you. Crawford had a 47eFG% in the playoffs while the team as a whole shot 52%, a 5% drop is a lot. In the playoffs we scored 1.5 more points per 100 less with him off the floor than with him on. Also negative for the regular season. When we stay within the system we are elite, when we don't anything can happen.

I like the dude but he makes the team worse and he's possibly our best trade asset outside of Paul, Griffin and DJ. He needs to go.
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Post#9 » by NBAWestFan » Fri May 16, 2014 6:03 pm

The problem is the Clippers a still inexperienced and need to learn how to play
more like a team and break down the defense with spacing.

Better screens need to be set for Reddick and Crawford.
More touches for both.

Part of the problem is Reddick is being guard by a quicker taller defender.

he needs a good screen in the playoffs the looks are more difficult.

He is not a tall jump shooter so that is part of the problem.
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Post#10 » by madmaxmedia » Fri May 16, 2014 8:27 pm

Crawford is ideal as instant-offense type to carry a second unit, or when our first team is stagnant. His usage rate was a bit high in the playoffs, but I think it's actually a symptom (mostly) and not the problem itself.

Our offense can get very unimaginative, also we don't have too many players who can get their own shot. I think Blake is improving and can take another big step next year by doing more facing the basket off those pick and rolls (instead of instantly looking to pass back to CP3.)

I also liked the idea of getting Paul Pierce to start at the 3.

Besides more minutes for JJ, the offense should more actively try to get him opportunities.
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Post#11 » by Neddy » Sat May 17, 2014 12:24 am

we need to throw blake in the fire. he is the key to everything we want to accomplish, including being the guy who takes the last shot with 6 seconds and down by 1 point.

I think having Jamal is fine and dandy, but Doc cannot play this guy over JJ when JJ is still fresh enough to play. but i also do understand that Jamal has a tendency to pout when he isn't playing much, so trading him in a package with say, dudley for a defensive and 3 point shooting wing would be a great idea.

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Post#12 » by LACtdom » Sat May 17, 2014 2:45 am

I see our team as:

Paul/ Collison
JJ / Bullock (JJ playing 30+ minutes)
? / Barnes (starter if he can improve his 3PT shooting)
Griffin / ?
DJ / ?

I agree with whoever said that JJ should play bulk minutes to wear out whoever is guarding him. I've noticed that players like Harden and Wade when they defend heaps, their offense looks sluggish.
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Post#13 » by chitownsports4ever » Sun May 18, 2014 10:31 pm

QRich3 wrote:Yeah of course he'll win us games here and there, but both him and Collison are very detrimental to our defense and freelance too much to add anything to a team that is already the best offensive team in the game. We don't need another offensive option, we have enough with Paul and Blake's 2 man game surrounded by shooters and DJ's lob threat. If/when we need isolation plays Paul is good enough to get a decent shot as he's showed countless times. You start going out of the system for hero ball and all kind of variables get in.

I thought Crawford was the main culprit of us not being able to buy a bucket at the end of game 5, yeah Doc, Paul and the rest of them deserve some blame for enabling him, but he was the one waving people off to take horrible shots 1 vs 5.

Look at this graphic from Tom Haberstroh's report on the matter:

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He had the highest usage of any Clipper this postseason, up to 30% in the series against OKC!! You cannot do that as a career 53 TS% when you have Paul and Blake just standing there staring at you. Crawford had a 47eFG% in the playoffs while the team as a whole shot 52%, a 5% drop is a lot. In the playoffs we scored 1.5 more points per 100 less with him off the floor than with him on. Also negative for the regular season. When we stay within the system we are elite, when we don't anything can happen.

I like the dude but he makes the team worse and he's possibly our best trade asset outside of Paul, Griffin and DJ. He needs to go.



Thats pretty unfair and biased considering when Crawford came in several times were struggling I mean really struggling offensively and the instance where he waived off Blake he had perkins on him at the three point line .

I watched those games and Crawford was the one who found Collison streaking to win that game 5. I also thought its tough to judge to judge jamal because it seems the team is quite willing to throw the ball to him with 6 seconds on the clock and ask him to create something out of nothing .
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Post#14 » by QRich3 » Mon May 19, 2014 9:30 am

chitownsports4ever wrote:Thats pretty unfair and biased considering when Crawford came in several times were struggling I mean really struggling offensively and the instance where he waived off Blake he had perkins on him at the three point line .

I watched those games and Crawford was the one who found Collison streaking to win that game 5. I also thought its tough to judge to judge jamal because it seems the team is quite willing to throw the ball to him with 6 seconds on the clock and ask him to create something out of nothing .

Dunno if it's biased but I'm not trying to make him the scapegoat or anything, you're right the team and the coaching staff are fine with letting him just work his me-against-the-world offense, and that's precisely the problem. Having that cushion is what makes the team go out of the system and it worsens our offensive efficiency by a good margin. Let him go and you remove the temptation. I'm not gonna analyze the play by play on that game 5 cause like I said it's not about blaming him, but IIRC he did miss both of those isos when Perkins was on him*, one of those had Paul claiming for the ball on the side. Finding Collison for a transition layup is not gonna make me change my mind about him either.

Neddy is onto something here, and I'd rather have Luol Deng than Ariza if we could get the Cavs to S&T him to us.

* That's another thing, how many times do we see that big-man-on-guard isolation, and how many times does it end up with the guard shooting a long 2 over the stretched hand of a 7 footer? it has to be one of the least efficient plays in basketball and yet when there's a switch we always see the guard clearing everybody out.
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Post#15 » by kylem4711 » Mon May 19, 2014 9:37 pm

LACtdom wrote:I see our team as:

Paul/ Collison
JJ / Bullock (JJ playing 30+ minutes)
? / Barnes (starter if he can improve his 3PT shooting)
Griffin / ?
DJ / ?

I agree with whoever said that JJ should play bulk minutes to wear out whoever is guarding him. I've noticed that players like Harden and Wade when they defend heaps, their offense looks sluggish.


ideally i would want afflalo or deng at the SF.
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Post#16 » by LACtdom » Mon May 19, 2014 10:34 pm

Jamal shows his useful during the season where he will win us a handful of games but IMO he is not built for the playoffs. If he isn't hot then he cannot provide anything.

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