What do the Clippers need to do to make the WCF?

[NBAfan3024]

Lets face it one bad call you could say cost them from going up 3-2 on OKC.

What do the Clips need to do to beat OKC this time and make the conference finals? as likelyhood is OKC/Clips could be a 2nd round repeat this season.

[Roscoe Sheed]

1. Hope that they stop getting bad calls at inopportune moments.

2. Stop making dumb errors that compound the impact of the bad officiating.

3. Blake Griffin improves his game even more to become basically unstoppable. If his defense, jump shot and post moves improve even more, he will be a great, great player.

4. If Dudley can return to his prior level of performance before last season and/or Barnes plays at the top of his potential, they can improve their wing play. If they can sign Marion that would help too. If all else fails, a trade would need to be pursued.

5. Hope the Spurs finally show their age.

6. Hope the Sterling situation gets more resolved. Otherwise the horrible Sterling cloud will linger.

[mttwlsn16]

Win

[ctorres]

Not much else for them to do. Adding Farmar, Hawes, as well as re-signing Glen Davis was pretty much all they needed. Now you just wait for it all to work out.

[Akklaim1]

Popovich calls it quits

[Quake Griffin]

Shawn Marion

[LACtdom]

We already had the number 1 offense last season...
We need players to take a page out of DJ's book and actually try on the defensive end!
(Crawford, Dudley, Big Baby)
And just some more experience with our team defense.

[og15]

Need to do defense. We actually need more of the personnel when it comes to defense, primarily at SG/SF.

In this league, it is hard to survive defensively with a SG/SF rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Jamal Crawford
SF: Matt Barnes / Jared Dudley

Nothing against those guys, it is just hard to match up defensively against opposing teams with that. If the front office is able to swap some offense for defense, it would help. For example, Jared Dudley and Bullock to Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Jamal (maybe and Barnes, depends) to a team for a good two way type SF. That would give a rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Gerald Henderson
SF: (Traded SF) / Gerald Henderson (or Matt Barnes or maybe Barnes is traded and it is Marion)

Anyways, any combination like that where you balance offense and defense better at the positions. Losing a guy like Jamal hurts, yes, but you think of it, and come playoffs, being able to defend guys will be more important than Jamal's ability to isolate.

Also have to consider that when you hit a tough defense, Jamal will struggle:

Jamal vs OKC: 14.2 PPG / 35.3% FG / 29.4% 3PT / .460 TS% / 95 Ortg
Jamal vs MEM: 10.8 PPG / 38.7% FG / 27.3% 3PT / .486 TS% / 104 Ortg
Jamal vs CHI: 10.3 PPG / 33.3% FG / 17.4% 3PT / .440 TS% / 88 Ortg

That was all three of the last times he's made the playoffs. His streakiness is also part of it and shown in that in 10-11 with ATL and again in 13-14 with LAC, he looked good in his first series but was bad in his second series. Can you rely on a guy like Jamal for give you positive production in a playoff series vs a team like SA? I really doubt it. So in light of that, trading him for a guy who for his position will at least bring defense and rebounding every single night and his positive production isn't directly tied to how well he scores or shoots, and that could be big.

[mttwlsn16]

dont think id want Hendo. He is Gerald "I have a wide open 3 but Id rather step one foot inside the line and take an uncontested awkward fade away deep 2" Henderson.

[wizardg]

What do you think of the Celtics Jeff Green?

I think he could be the guy (obviously doc knows him) he has star ability. Not often enough he does incredible things on the court. After back2back2back threes or a doctor j/ worthyesque slam In Someone's face he disappears

And he resume playing like a third tier guy which works for the clips.
He's an upgrade over Barnes and Dudley. But I'm not sure of the right compensation. Barnes and Dudley would work better if dud was the expiring contract.
Bullock and Crawford May have to be involved.

Need to do defense. We actually need more of the personnel when it comes to defense, primarily at SG/SF.

In this league, it is hard to survive defensively with a SG/SF rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Jamal Crawford
SF: Matt Barnes / Jared Dudley

Nothing against those guys, it is just hard to match up defensively against opposing teams with that. If the front office is able to swap some offense for defense, it would help. For example, Jared Dudley and Bullock to Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Jamal (maybe and Barnes, depends) to a team for a good two way type SF. That would give a rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Gerald Henderson
SF: (Traded SF) / Gerald Henderson (or Matt Barnes or maybe Barnes is traded and it is Marion)

Anyways, any combination like that where you balance offense and defense better at the positions. Losing a guy like Jamal hurts, yes, but you think of it, and come playoffs, being able to defend guys will be more important than Jamal's ability to isolate.

Also have to consider that when you hit a tough defense, Jamal will struggle:

Jamal vs OKC: 14.2 PPG / 35.3% FG / 29.4% 3PT / .460 TS% / 95 Ortg
Jamal vs MEM: 10.8 PPG / 38.7% FG / 27.3% 3PT / .486 TS% / 104 Ortg
Jamal vs CHI: 10.3 PPG / 33.3% FG / 17.4% 3PT / .440 TS% / 88 Ortg

That was all three of the last times he's made the playoffs. His streakiness is also part of it and shown in that in 10-11 with ATL and again in 13-14 with LAC, he looked good in his first series but was bad in his second series. Can you rely on a guy like Jamal for give you positive production in a playoff series vs a team like SA? I really doubt it. So in light of that, trading him for a guy who for his position will at least bring defense and rebounding every single night and his positive production isn't directly tied to how well he scores or shoots, and that could be big.

[apet8945]

Need to do defense. We actually need more of the personnel when it comes to defense, primarily at SG/SF.

In this league, it is hard to survive defensively with a SG/SF rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Jamal Crawford
SF: Matt Barnes / Jared Dudley

Nothing against those guys, it is just hard to match up defensively against opposing teams with that. If the front office is able to swap some offense for defense, it would help. For example, Jared Dudley and Bullock to Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Jamal (maybe and Barnes, depends) to a team for a good two way type SF. That would give a rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Gerald Henderson
SF: (Traded SF) / Gerald Henderson (or Matt Barnes or maybe Barnes is traded and it is Marion)

Anyways, any combination like that where you balance offense and defense better at the positions. Losing a guy like Jamal hurts, yes, but you think of it, and come playoffs, being able to defend guys will be more important than Jamal's ability to isolate.

Also have to consider that when you hit a tough defense, Jamal will struggle:

Jamal vs OKC: 14.2 PPG / 35.3% FG / 29.4% 3PT / .460 TS% / 95 Ortg
Jamal vs MEM: 10.8 PPG / 38.7% FG / 27.3% 3PT / .486 TS% / 104 Ortg
Jamal vs CHI: 10.3 PPG / 33.3% FG / 17.4% 3PT / .440 TS% / 88 Ortg

That was all three of the last times he's made the playoffs. His streakiness is also part of it and shown in that in 10-11 with ATL and again in 13-14 with LAC, he looked good in his first series but was bad in his second series. Can you rely on a guy like Jamal for give you positive production in a playoff series vs a team like SA? I really doubt it. So in light of that, trading him for a guy who for his position will at least bring defense and rebounding every single night and his positive production isn't directly tied to how well he scores or shoots, and that could be big.

I wrote in another thread to trade for Henderson as well. I think he'd be a great addition. But I have a hard time believing that Charlotte would give us Henderson for Dudley coming off of a terrible season (and who only makes like 1.75ish million less than Hendo, with a player option next year) and an unproven sophmore in Bullock. Not to mention they are both SF's and the Bobcats have a logjam at that position. I mean, if I was Charlotte, I wouldn't even be in negotiations with the Clippers for Hendo unless Crawford was on the table, at the very least. I don't see them giving us Kidd-Gilchrist either.

[og15]

What do you think of the Celtics Jeff Green?

I think he could be the guy (obviously doc knows him) he has star ability. Not often enough he does incredible things on the court. After back2back2back threes or a doctor j/ worthyesque slam In Someone's face he disappears

And he resume playing like a third tier guy which works for the clips.
He's an upgrade over Barnes and Dudley. But I'm not sure of the right compensation. Barnes and Dudley would work better if dud was the expiring contract.
Bullock and Crawford May have to be involved.

Need to do defense. We actually need more of the personnel when it comes to defense, primarily at SG/SF.

In this league, it is hard to survive defensively with a SG/SF rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Jamal Crawford
SF: Matt Barnes / Jared Dudley

Nothing against those guys, it is just hard to match up defensively against opposing teams with that. If the front office is able to swap some offense for defense, it would help. For example, Jared Dudley and Bullock to Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Jamal (maybe and Barnes, depends) to a team for a good two way type SF. That would give a rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Gerald Henderson
SF: (Traded SF) / Gerald Henderson (or Matt Barnes or maybe Barnes is traded and it is Marion)

Anyways, any combination like that where you balance offense and defense better at the positions. Losing a guy like Jamal hurts, yes, but you think of it, and come playoffs, being able to defend guys will be more important than Jamal's ability to isolate.

Also have to consider that when you hit a tough defense, Jamal will struggle:

Jamal vs OKC: 14.2 PPG / 35.3% FG / 29.4% 3PT / .460 TS% / 95 Ortg
Jamal vs MEM: 10.8 PPG / 38.7% FG / 27.3% 3PT / .486 TS% / 104 Ortg
Jamal vs CHI: 10.3 PPG / 33.3% FG / 17.4% 3PT / .440 TS% / 88 Ortg

That was all three of the last times he's made the playoffs. His streakiness is also part of it and shown in that in 10-11 with ATL and again in 13-14 with LAC, he looked good in his first series but was bad in his second series. Can you rely on a guy like Jamal for give you positive production in a playoff series vs a team like SA? I really doubt it. So in light of that, trading him for a guy who for his position will at least bring defense and rebounding every single night and his positive production isn't directly tied to how well he scores or shoots, and that could be big.

I don't see what we could offer for Green though.

Need to do defense. We actually need more of the personnel when it comes to defense, primarily at SG/SF.

In this league, it is hard to survive defensively with a SG/SF rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Jamal Crawford
SF: Matt Barnes / Jared Dudley

Nothing against those guys, it is just hard to match up defensively against opposing teams with that. If the front office is able to swap some offense for defense, it would help. For example, Jared Dudley and Bullock to Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Jamal (maybe and Barnes, depends) to a team for a good two way type SF. That would give a rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Gerald Henderson
SF: (Traded SF) / Gerald Henderson (or Matt Barnes or maybe Barnes is traded and it is Marion)

Anyways, any combination like that where you balance offense and defense better at the positions. Losing a guy like Jamal hurts, yes, but you think of it, and come playoffs, being able to defend guys will be more important than Jamal's ability to isolate.

Also have to consider that when you hit a tough defense, Jamal will struggle:

Jamal vs OKC: 14.2 PPG / 35.3% FG / 29.4% 3PT / .460 TS% / 95 Ortg
Jamal vs MEM: 10.8 PPG / 38.7% FG / 27.3% 3PT / .486 TS% / 104 Ortg
Jamal vs CHI: 10.3 PPG / 33.3% FG / 17.4% 3PT / .440 TS% / 88 Ortg

That was all three of the last times he's made the playoffs. His streakiness is also part of it and shown in that in 10-11 with ATL and again in 13-14 with LAC, he looked good in his first series but was bad in his second series. Can you rely on a guy like Jamal for give you positive production in a playoff series vs a team like SA? I really doubt it. So in light of that, trading him for a guy who for his position will at least bring defense and rebounding every single night and his positive production isn't directly tied to how well he scores or shoots, and that could be big.

I wrote in another thread to trade for Henderson as well. I think he'd be a great addition. But I have a hard time believing that Charlotte would give us Henderson for Dudley coming off of a terrible season (and who only makes like 1.75ish million less than Hendo, with a player option next year) and an unproven sophmore in Bullock. Not to mention they are both SF's and the Bobcats have a logjam at that position. I mean, if I was Charlotte, I wouldn't even be in negotiations with the Clippers for Hendo unless Crawford was on the table, at the very least. I don't see them giving us Kidd-Gilchrist either.

Charlotte actually has a logjam at SG and I believe are looking for a backup SF. They will be playing Williams at PF I believe, not SF.

SG: Lance Stephenson / Gerald Henderson / Gary Neal / P.J. Hairston
SF: MKG / Marvin Williams? / Jeffrey Taylor
PF: Marvin Williams / Cody Zeller / Noah Vonleh

If Zeller wins the starting job, and maybe that happens then Williams is backup PF/SF, but SG is actually the position where they have a logjam. Dudley makes less than Henderson and the length is the same, both have a player option for 15-16, so they save money. They don't have to pick up Bullock's option if they don't like him.

I asked Hornets fans: viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1321614&start=1280

Seems like they see it as good. I don't think most people expect Dudley to be bad like he was last season again, it would be the anomaly, the expectation would be for him to look more like Phoenix Dudley.

[Wammy Giveaway]

Need to do defense. We actually need more of the personnel when it comes to defense, primarily at SG/SF.

In this league, it is hard to survive defensively with a SG/SF rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Jamal Crawford
SF: Matt Barnes / Jared Dudley

To support OG15's statement, here are my Prevention findings:

1st Round
Redick: 18 shots for 44 PTS, 6.4 POS, 5 AST, 7.5 intangibles, 6 helps
M. Barnes: 17 shots for 40 PTS, 8.4 POS, 4 AST, 7.5 intangibles, 10 helps
Crawford: 6 shots for 15 PTS, 4.3 POS, 3 AST, 8.5 intangibles, 2 helps

Thompson: 22 shots for 52 PTS, 1.9 POS, 9 AST, 7.5 intangibles, 10 helps
Iguodala: 17 shots for 44 PTS, 5.9 POS, 8 AST, 9.5 intangibles, 2 helps, 6 delays
H. Barnes: 15 shots for 38 PTS, 3.0 POS, 1 AST, 2 intangibles, 10 helps, 1 delay
Green: 37 shots for 86 PTS, 23.9 POS, 3 AST, 40.5 intangibles, 12 helps, 14 delays

Take into consideration:

1. Jared Dudley played in only two games in the first round.
2. Draymond Green played both the 3 and 4 spots.

2nd Round

Redick: 11 shots for 28 PTS, 2.0 POS, 5 AST, 2 intangibles, 5 helps
Barnes: 25 shots for 63 PTS, 12.2 POS, 7 intangibles, 9 helps, 5 delays
Crawford: 6 shots for 15 PTS, 1.2 POS, 3 AST, 1.5 intangibles, 4 helps, 4 delays

Sefolosha: 5 shots for 12 PTS, 5.3 POS, 1 AST, 2.5 intangibles, 2 helps, 1 delay
Durant: 16 shots for 42 PTS, 4.3 POS, 4 AST, 13 intangibles, 6 helps, 7 delays
Butler: 11 shots for 30 PTS, 2.5 intangibles, 1 help, 2 delays
Jackson: 18 shots for 44 PTS, 6.5 POS, 1 AST, 3 intangibles, 8 helps, 1 delay

The numbers speak for themselves.

[apet8945]

What do you think of the Celtics Jeff Green?

I think he could be the guy (obviously doc knows him) he has star ability. Not often enough he does incredible things on the court. After back2back2back threes or a doctor j/ worthyesque slam In Someone's face he disappears

And he resume playing like a third tier guy which works for the clips.
He's an upgrade over Barnes and Dudley. But I'm not sure of the right compensation. Barnes and Dudley would work better if dud was the expiring contract.
Bullock and Crawford May have to be involved.

Need to do defense. We actually need more of the personnel when it comes to defense, primarily at SG/SF.

In this league, it is hard to survive defensively with a SG/SF rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Jamal Crawford
SF: Matt Barnes / Jared Dudley

Nothing against those guys, it is just hard to match up defensively against opposing teams with that. If the front office is able to swap some offense for defense, it would help. For example, Jared Dudley and Bullock to Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Jamal (maybe and Barnes, depends) to a team for a good two way type SF. That would give a rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Gerald Henderson
SF: (Traded SF) / Gerald Henderson (or Matt Barnes or maybe Barnes is traded and it is Marion)

Anyways, any combination like that where you balance offense and defense better at the positions. Losing a guy like Jamal hurts, yes, but you think of it, and come playoffs, being able to defend guys will be more important than Jamal's ability to isolate.

Also have to consider that when you hit a tough defense, Jamal will struggle:

Jamal vs OKC: 14.2 PPG / 35.3% FG / 29.4% 3PT / .460 TS% / 95 Ortg
Jamal vs MEM: 10.8 PPG / 38.7% FG / 27.3% 3PT / .486 TS% / 104 Ortg
Jamal vs CHI: 10.3 PPG / 33.3% FG / 17.4% 3PT / .440 TS% / 88 Ortg

That was all three of the last times he's made the playoffs. His streakiness is also part of it and shown in that in 10-11 with ATL and again in 13-14 with LAC, he looked good in his first series but was bad in his second series. Can you rely on a guy like Jamal for give you positive production in a playoff series vs a team like SA? I really doubt it. So in light of that, trading him for a guy who for his position will at least bring defense and rebounding every single night and his positive production isn't directly tied to how well he scores or shoots, and that could be big.

I don't see what we could offer for Green though.

Need to do defense. We actually need more of the personnel when it comes to defense, primarily at SG/SF.

In this league, it is hard to survive defensively with a SG/SF rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Jamal Crawford
SF: Matt Barnes / Jared Dudley

Nothing against those guys, it is just hard to match up defensively against opposing teams with that. If the front office is able to swap some offense for defense, it would help. For example, Jared Dudley and Bullock to Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and Jamal (maybe and Barnes, depends) to a team for a good two way type SF. That would give a rotation of:

SG: J.J. Redick / Gerald Henderson
SF: (Traded SF) / Gerald Henderson (or Matt Barnes or maybe Barnes is traded and it is Marion)

Anyways, any combination like that where you balance offense and defense better at the positions. Losing a guy like Jamal hurts, yes, but you think of it, and come playoffs, being able to defend guys will be more important than Jamal's ability to isolate.

Also have to consider that when you hit a tough defense, Jamal will struggle:

Jamal vs OKC: 14.2 PPG / 35.3% FG / 29.4% 3PT / .460 TS% / 95 Ortg
Jamal vs MEM: 10.8 PPG / 38.7% FG / 27.3% 3PT / .486 TS% / 104 Ortg
Jamal vs CHI: 10.3 PPG / 33.3% FG / 17.4% 3PT / .440 TS% / 88 Ortg

That was all three of the last times he's made the playoffs. His streakiness is also part of it and shown in that in 10-11 with ATL and again in 13-14 with LAC, he looked good in his first series but was bad in his second series. Can you rely on a guy like Jamal for give you positive production in a playoff series vs a team like SA? I really doubt it. So in light of that, trading him for a guy who for his position will at least bring defense and rebounding every single night and his positive production isn't directly tied to how well he scores or shoots, and that could be big.

I wrote in another thread to trade for Henderson as well. I think he'd be a great addition. But I have a hard time believing that Charlotte would give us Henderson for Dudley coming off of a terrible season (and who only makes like 1.75ish million less than Hendo, with a player option next year) and an unproven sophmore in Bullock. Not to mention they are both SF's and the Bobcats have a logjam at that position. I mean, if I was Charlotte, I wouldn't even be in negotiations with the Clippers for Hendo unless Crawford was on the table, at the very least. I don't see them giving us Kidd-Gilchrist either.

Charlotte actually has a logjam at SG and I believe are looking for a backup SF. They will be playing Williams at PF I believe, not SF.

SG: Lance Stephenson / Gerald Henderson / Gary Neal / P.J. Hairston
SF: MKG / Marvin Williams? / Jeffrey Taylor
PF: Marvin Williams / Cody Zeller / Noah Vonleh

If Zeller wins the starting job, and maybe that happens then Williams is backup PF/SF, but SG is actually the position where they have a logjam. Dudley makes less than Henderson and the length is the same, both have a player option for 15-16, so they save money. They don't have to pick up Bullock's option if they don't like him.

I asked Hornets fans: viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1321614&start=1280

Seems like they see it as good. I don't think most people expect Dudley to be bad like he was last season again, it would be the anomaly, the expectation would be for him to look more like Phoenix Dudley.

Well hey, if we can get Hendo for Dudley and Bullock, that would be a crazy steal.

I remember reading about Charlotte wanting to play Marvin Williams at PF too, but it doesn't make any sense to me. He's decent guarding opposing small forwards, but how in the hell is he going to guard power forwards?

[QRich3]

I'm pretty sure Henderson has negative value around the league, he's not worth an $18 million contract. I wouldn't give up Bullock for him in any way, Reggie might be that 2 way wing we're looking for in a year or two, when we'd be trying to waste another pick on dumping Henderson somewhere else. I'd happily give Crawford for him though.

Jeff Green would be nice but again I'm not sure I'd give Bullock for him, and I don't think the Celtics want anything else from us. If we can get something of value foo Crawford/Dudley or Crawford/Barnes from a third team, I'd absolutely try to trade for him.

I've scanned other team's rosters several times for an available SF that fits what we're looking for, and realized the league is really thin at that position, there's nothing realistic for us out there.

[BlzMwt]

I'm pretty sure Henderson has negative value around the league, he's not worth an $18 million contract. I wouldn't give up Bullock for him in any way, Reggie might be that 2 way wing we're looking for in a year or two, when we'd be trying to waste another pick on dumping Henderson somewhere else. I'd happily give Crawford for him though.

Jeff Green would be nice but again I'm not sure I'd give Bullock for him, and I don't think the Celtics want anything else from us. If we can get something of value foo Crawford/Dudley or Crawford/Barnes from a third team, I'd absolutely try to trade for him.

I've scanned other team's rosters several times for an available SF that fits what we're looking for, and realized the league is really thin at that position, there's nothing realistic for us out there.

are you being serious that you wouldnt give up bullock for jeff green? obviously salaries dont match and other players would need to be included but if bullock ever turns into half the player green is then i would be very surprised

[scratch21]

I'm pretty sure Henderson has negative value around the league, he's not worth an $18 million contract. I wouldn't give up Bullock for him in any way, Reggie might be that 2 way wing we're looking for in a year or two, when we'd be trying to waste another pick on dumping Henderson somewhere else. I'd happily give Crawford for him though.

Jeff Green would be nice but again I'm not sure I'd give Bullock for him, and I don't think the Celtics want anything else from us. If we can get something of value foo Crawford/Dudley or Crawford/Barnes from a third team, I'd absolutely try to trade for him.

I've scanned other team's rosters several times for an available SF that fits what we're looking for, and realized the league is really thin at that position, there's nothing realistic for us out there.

are you being serious that you wouldnt give up bullock for jeff green? obviously salaries dont match and other players would need to be included but if bullock ever turns into half the player green is then i would be very surprised

Bullock will never play. Doc hates him for personal reasons

[LACtdom]

I'm pretty sure Henderson has negative value around the league, he's not worth an $18 million contract. I wouldn't give up Bullock for him in any way, Reggie might be that 2 way wing we're looking for in a year or two, when we'd be trying to waste another pick on dumping Henderson somewhere else. I'd happily give Crawford for him though.

Jeff Green would be nice but again I'm not sure I'd give Bullock for him, and I don't think the Celtics want anything else from us. If we can get something of value foo Crawford/Dudley or Crawford/Barnes from a third team, I'd absolutely try to trade for him.

I've scanned other team's rosters several times for an available SF that fits what we're looking for, and realized the league is really thin at that position, there's nothing realistic for us out there.

are you being serious that you wouldnt give up bullock for jeff green? obviously salaries dont match and other players would need to be included but if bullock ever turns into half the player green is then i would be very surprised

Bullock will never play. Doc hates him for personal reasons

I was unaware that Doc hated him but I guess we will find out if it's true if CJ Wilcox gets more minutes than Bullock.

I would gladly trade Bullock, Dudley & Jamal for Green who would be a great starting SF for us.

[QRich3]

I'm pretty sure Henderson has negative value around the league, he's not worth an $18 million contract. I wouldn't give up Bullock for him in any way, Reggie might be that 2 way wing we're looking for in a year or two, when we'd be trying to waste another pick on dumping Henderson somewhere else. I'd happily give Crawford for him though.

Jeff Green would be nice but again I'm not sure I'd give Bullock for him, and I don't think the Celtics want anything else from us. If we can get something of value foo Crawford/Dudley or Crawford/Barnes from a third team, I'd absolutely try to trade for him.

I've scanned other team's rosters several times for an available SF that fits what we're looking for, and realized the league is really thin at that position, there's nothing realistic for us out there.

are you being serious that you wouldnt give up bullock for jeff green? obviously salaries dont match and other players would need to be included but if bullock ever turns into half the player green is then i would be very surprised

I said I wasn't sure, I might get talked into it if push comes to shove. But we need to have some performing players on rookie contracts some time, bloating our capspace with one year quick fixes is not gonna work for long, and I think Reggie is gonna be a good player and a great fit for a team with Paul and Griffin. Green is not that great of a player by the way, nor is he the greatest fit. If he can be had for cheap I'm all for it, I wouldn't give future assets for him.

By the way, Doc doesn't hate Bullock, he hates having to deal with rookie mistakes, like most coaches do. This season or the next one, he'll start getting playing time.

[scratch21]

I'm pretty sure Henderson has negative value around the league, he's not worth an $18 million contract. I wouldn't give up Bullock for him in any way, Reggie might be that 2 way wing we're looking for in a year or two, when we'd be trying to waste another pick on dumping Henderson somewhere else. I'd happily give Crawford for him though.

Jeff Green would be nice but again I'm not sure I'd give Bullock for him, and I don't think the Celtics want anything else from us. If we can get something of value foo Crawford/Dudley or Crawford/Barnes from a third team, I'd absolutely try to trade for him.

I've scanned other team's rosters several times for an available SF that fits what we're looking for, and realized the league is really thin at that position, there's nothing realistic for us out there.

are you being serious that you wouldnt give up bullock for jeff green? obviously salaries dont match and other players would need to be included but if bullock ever turns into half the player green is then i would be very surprised

I said I wasn't sure, I might get talked into it if push comes to shove. But we need to have some performing players on rookie contracts some time, bloating our capspace with one year quick fixes is not gonna work for long, and I think Reggie is gonna be a good player and a great fit for a team with Paul and Griffin. Green is not that great of a player by the way, nor is he the greatest fit. If he can be had for cheap I'm all for it, I wouldn't give future assets for him.

By the way, Doc doesn't hate Bullock, he hates having to deal with rookie mistakes, like most coaches do. This season or the next one, he'll start getting playing time.

i wish i can PM you guys so ill post it & delete it but Reggie slept with Callie.. Docs daughter and he found out.
I know someone that works with the team