We get absolutely no love from the main board

Akklaim1 · Post #1 » by **Akklaim1** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:15 am

Why do we get absolutely no love from the General Board? We haven't been a successful franchise yet we get treated like we are a historied franchise that the rest of the league wants to top. Meanwhile, the Warriors get a lot of love even though they've had as much success as we have since both teams have become playoff teams. I think it's mainly because they are our rivals and whatever Clipper fans hate, everyone else loves.

And I know this year we have looked worse but I'm also talking about the previous years in which we were the better team than GS. What makes them so more likeable than us? People like to make excuses that we flop too much. I call BS because many other teams flop. Nobody likes to see teams from LA succeed.

Neddy · Post #2 » by **Neddy** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:26 am

don't even worry about it. the general board is littered with the same group of little children who posts a one liner asshat comments, at least in baseball general forum and Im sure its the same group of kids who posts in every general forum. they usually add little to no intelligible discussion to each topic and wonder why those forums don't have enough traffic, not capable of understanding it is them who detracts posters who are worth a damn.

i am perfectly happy to have a clippers discussion forum i can be a part of that has its own mods and not be subjected to lakers or some other global mods trolling themselves like some other places i have known in the past. outside of this happy family, i don't give a rats ass what little kids who still live under their moms roof do or what opinions their little brains hold, and neither should you. grown ass men trust his own ideas and opinions, little children require a perpetual assurance from his peers.

MartinToVaught · Post #3 » by **MartinToVaught** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:13 am

What's more frustrating is the fact that this team never gives us the satisfaction of shutting up the haters. We're headed for another early exit in the playoffs, which will only vindicate the haters that much more.

As for GSW, they're the big bandwagon team now, but when they choke against OKC come playoff time, that's when they're going to start catching heat.

Forte IV · Post #4 » by **Forte IV** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:16 am

If the Warriors lose in the playoffs the next couple of years in the first two rounds I guarantee they'll receive the same treatment we are getting. Young people like success, add in something that makes a team entertaining, like the Warriors 3 point shooting, and you can see why people like them. 2 years ago people loved us. We were lob city and we were making the playoffs. But then we lost in the playoffs and people started to dislike us. If the Warriors follow the same path as us so far they'll lose fandom. Just the nature of the beast.

KyletheDingbat · Post #5 » by **KyletheDingbat** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:53 am

People started hating us in 2012 when everybody turned on Blake. The Kia dunk contest thing soured a lot of people and the constant flopping soured the rest. Couple that with the CP3 trade and him finally getting the spotlight shone on his flopping and we became a nation wide example of all that's wrong with the league. We cleaned up the flop act a year or two after but the damage was done.

I sincerely think nearly 100% of the hate is the result of the flopping, which was *bad*.

Akklaim1 · Post #6 » by **Akklaim1** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:03 am

KyletheDingbat wrote:People started hating us in 2012 when everybody turned on Blake. The Kia dunk contest thing soured a lot of people and the constant flopping soured the rest. Couple that with the CP3 trade and him finally getting the spotlight shone on his flopping and we became a nation wide example of all that's wrong with the league. We cleaned up the flop act a year or two after but the damage was done.

I sincerely think nearly 100% of the hate is the result of the flopping, which was *bad*.

That's the thing. It's just a reputation now. The flopping isn't as bad as it was but people are still in denial to have an excuse to hate us.

Post #7 » by **QRich3** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:45 am

Bah, there's a lot of people that flop a lot more than Blake or CP3 ever done. People love Manu Ginobili and they loved Divac, for instance. It's just the way group think goes, and it's usually rooted in silly narratives created by bad journalists and big corporate media outlets, who love to sell heroes and villains like everything's black & white. I'm sure they'll try to sell our redemption some time in the future, like they always do, and all that people now hating will swallow it like it's nothing, and tell you they love us now because of how much we changed.

Personally I couldn't care less.

Post #8 » by **thanumba2clippersfan** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:37 pm

I think we have the same discussion on here every so often. I don't worry that the general board doesn't like us. I honestly never go on there. I only care that we're winning. It's much better than all the losing seasons we had to endure. People didn't like us when we were losing anyways.

illastrate · Post #9 » by **illastrate** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:38 pm

There are a few reasons:

So those are the main reasons. They throw out the "Clips are a 1st or 2nd rd exit" sentiments quite often because of confirmation bias. It is what it is. Clippers have to win to shut people up or it'll never change.

Wammy Giveaway · Post #10 » by **Wammy Giveaway** » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:15 pm

Two extra reasons:

1. "Frauds": By that, I mean opposing fans think the Clippers are comprised of fake tough guys and fake faces. The players don't show a willingness to hurt their opponents or instigate scrums, though we have seen various games where Griffin purposely gets in those moments to draw ejections, like P.J. Tucker. Hardly any of the Clipper players get themselves tossed from games. You'll be surprised as to the number of Clipper players who get sent to the showers early since CP3 came to L.A.:

2011-12: Mo Williams
2012-13: Matt Barnes, Ryan Hollins, Chris Paul
2013-14: Matt Barnes, Blake Griffin
2014-15: J.J. Redick (pre-season), Matt Barnes, Jamal Crawford

On a foot note, they also think Doc Rivers is a phony coach who only became the best because he defeated the almighty Phil Jackson and the Lakers in the NBA Finals, when they believe it was really Tom Thibodeau who did all the work. Unfortunately, his tenure as a dual coach and GM exposed his penchant for favoritism, the straw that broke the camel's back being the trade for his son. Now Doc is in the hot seat.

2. Donald Sterling: A classic villain who wanted to be just like his friendly rival Dr. Jerry Buss. Ironically, by helping Dr. Buss in purchasing the Lakers, he ended up helping the Lakers. Since Dr. Buss was the one who gave him the idea of purchasing an NBA team, some considered that Sterling, aside from his cheap ways, discrimination against other races, and sexism, was also a Laker spy.

pageC4 · Post #11 » by **pageC4** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:34 am

Akklaim1 wrote:Why do we get absolutely no love from the General Board? We haven't been a successful franchise yet we get treated like we are a historied franchise that the rest of the league wants to top. Meanwhile, the Warriors get a lot of love even though they've had as much success as we have since both teams have become playoff teams. I think it's mainly because they are our rivals and whatever Clipper fans hate, everyone else loves.

And I know this year we have looked worse but I'm also talking about the previous years in which we were the better team than GS. What makes them so more likeable than us? People like to make excuses that we flop too much. I call BS because many other teams flop. Nobody likes to see teams from LA succeed.

I think a big part of that comes from the fact that the Clippers represent Los Angeles, and folks from other places assume that our fans are identical to Lakers fans. They forget that we are the ultimate underdog though. I also get ticked off that we are a hated team when in reality we haven't won championships like the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs, or Bulls. You would think people would want us to win to show that parity exists.
While there is some slight off putting personality traits with some of our players, I don't believe it's any worse than what you can see from other teams, for example nut-punching Ibaka and that taunter Steve Adams on the Thunder. The Warriors also have their share of thugs with Draymond Green's antics, all the crap former coach Mark Jackson fomented, and Jermain O Neal confronting Blake Griffin with the ever-famous sore loser mentality. Of course there is my favorites, the Memphis Grizzlies, whose players like Tony Allen karate kicked Chris Paul in the face and Zach Randolph blatantly punched Blake Griffin.
We can go on forever and find great examples of players on other teams doing far worse, but we get the most scrutiny because we are an L.A. team.
The "L.A. tax" as I like to call it even extends to baseball, where players from teams like the Cardinals can throw at our player with total impunity because they come from a more "respectable" town called St. Louis. The Giants also did this a couple of times against our boys in blue and got no repercussions, but if Clayton Kershaw were to do the same the Dodgers players would be fined and suspended.

Quake Griffin · Post #12 » by **Quake Griffin** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:24 am

We're new money to the teams that have been winning.
And to the other teams, they don't want to be passed up by a team they used to pity for better or for worse.

The haters already hate us. They flick on the TV to confirm the hate. Not the other way around.

A guy on the Warrior forum was actually explaining to me how Griffin deserved to get punched in the nuts by Serge a few months back.
Once you realize that those are the kind of people you're dealing with, you move on. I say that because I make this thread once a year and I made a similar thread before this year started.

DLaren · Post #13 » by **DLaren** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:28 am

It's not just internet message boards, an alarming number of NBA players hate the Clippers too -- at some point it's time to look in the mirror.

The first thing Doc said to CP3 when he got here was something to the affect of, "You haven't done anything in this league yet, so stop acting like you have".

That has been my issue with this team since this core was assembled -- the over-whelming sense of entitlement.

How can a franchise that is historically dreadful, and a core of players who have never been past the 2ND round come into every season with a "Championship or Bust" attitude? The nerve of these *****...how about showing a little respect for all of the organizations & players who have achieved so much more than we have?

"We're just trying to get to get past the 2ND round and if we're fortunate enough to reach the WCF we'll see what happens after that"....would have been a much better way to introduce Lob City to the world.

Instead we chose the "stare-down-after-dunks"/"we-run-LA"/"Championship-or-Bust-" model...of course everyone hates us -- and it's well deserved.

Quake Griffin · Post #14 » by **Quake Griffin** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:07 am

DLaren wrote:It's not just internet message boards, an alarming number of NBA players hate the Clippers too -- at some point it's time to look in the mirror.

The first thing Doc said to CP3 when he got here was something to the affect of, "You haven't done anything in this league yet, so stop acting like you have".

That has been my issue with this team since this core was assembled -- the over-whelming sense of entitlement.

How can a franchise that is historically dreadful, and a core of players who have never been past the 2ND round come into every season with a "Championship or Bust" attitude? The nerve of these *****...how about showing a little respect for all of the organizations & players who have achieved so much more than we have?

"We're just trying to get to get past the 2ND round and if we're fortunate enough to reach the WCF we'll see what happens after that"....would have been a much better way to introduce Lob City to the world.

Instead we chose the "stare-down-after-dunks"/"we-run-LA"/"Championship-or-Bust-" model...of course everyone hates us -- and it's well deserved.

that's not why people hate us.

Neddy · Post #15 » by **Neddy** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:37 am

Quake Griffin wrote:
DLaren wrote:It's not just internet message boards, an alarming number of NBA players hate the Clippers too -- at some point it's time to look in the mirror.

The first thing Doc said to CP3 when he got here was something to the affect of, "You haven't done anything in this league yet, so stop acting like you have".

That has been my issue with this team since this core was assembled -- the over-whelming sense of entitlement.

How can a franchise that is historically dreadful, and a core of players who have never been past the 2ND round come into every season with a "Championship or Bust" attitude? The nerve of these *****...how about showing a little respect for all of the organizations & players who have achieved so much more than we have?

"We're just trying to get to get past the 2ND round and if we're fortunate enough to reach the WCF we'll see what happens after that"....would have been a much better way to introduce Lob City to the world.

Instead we chose the "stare-down-after-dunks"/"we-run-LA"/"Championship-or-Bust-" model...of course everyone hates us -- and it's well deserved.

that's not why people hate us.

i can't agree any more than to say 100% correct. they hate us because

#1) they think we still flop
#2) they think only thing blake does is dunk
#3) we play in LA
#4) we were owned by Donald Tukowitz Sterling
#5) they don't know what clipper means.

Forte IV · Post #16 » by **Forte IV** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:42 am

I feel for the youth of America who don't know what a Clipper ship is. Google is a powerful thing.

Post #17 » by **QRich3** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:02 am

DLaren wrote:It's not just internet message boards, an alarming number of NBA players hate the Clippers too -- at some point it's time to look in the mirror.

The first thing Doc said to CP3 when he got here was something to the affect of, "You haven't done anything in this league yet, so stop acting like you have".

That has been my issue with this team since this core was assembled -- the over-whelming sense of entitlement.

How can a franchise that is historically dreadful, and a core of players who have never been past the 2ND round come into every season with a "Championship or Bust" attitude? The nerve of these *****...how about showing a little respect for all of the organizations & players who have achieved so much more than we have?

"We're just trying to get to get past the 2ND round and if we're fortunate enough to reach the WCF we'll see what happens after that"....would have been a much better way to introduce Lob City to the world.

Instead we chose the "stare-down-after-dunks"/"we-run-LA"/"Championship-or-Bust-" model...of course everyone hates us -- and it's well deserved.

lol do you seriously buy all that sh*t you just said?? can't help but laugh when you see the lengths some people go to make up a narrative that validates their bias. You seriously get all that from a couple of "staredowns". What do you expect, them to bow down at opponents when they're on the court?

If you actually watch basketball around the league, our guys are some of the most respectful and humble after dunks and big plays, I just have to laugh when people make up the complete opposite to confirm their bias. Yeah they whine and moan to the refs a lot, and they exaggerate contact (tho they're not even the worst offenders in that), but showboating is definitely not a problem they have.

People don't like the Clippers because they were presented as this Lob City, all-show-no-substance team by the media, and a lot of people bought it like the weak brainless shoal they are. Then the Grizzlies series happened, and they sold this grit-and-grind blue collar mentality they had (blue collar my ass, bunch of spoiled millionaires) so they could contrast it against one another. Rich kids from LA against hard workers from Memphis. Just like people bought Wade's humble mentality for years until the big 3 got there and the spotlight showed he was one of the most prickish and self centered guys in the league. Or just like everyone believed Dirk to be the perfect definition of a soft euro player that choked in the big stage time after time, until he got into the right situation and he let it show that he's actually a cold blooded G.

The reputation our players get is undeserved for the most part, but it's ok, it'll shift down the road like it always does. Not like it's an important thing, but it will.

TucsonClip · Post #18 » by **TucsonClip** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:55 pm

Wammy Giveaway wrote:Two extra reasons:

1. "Frauds": By that, I mean opposing fans think the Clippers are comprised of fake tough guys and fake faces. The players don't show a willingness to hurt their opponents or instigate scrums, though we have seen various games where Griffin purposely gets in those moments to draw ejections, like P.J. Tucker. Hardly any of the Clipper players get themselves tossed from games. You'll be surprised as to the number of Clipper players who get sent to the showers early since CP3 came to L.A.:

2011-12: Mo Williams
2012-13: Matt Barnes, Ryan Hollins, Chris Paul
2013-14: Matt Barnes, Blake Griffin
2014-15: J.J. Redick (pre-season), Matt Barnes, Jamal Crawford

On a foot note, they also think Doc Rivers is a phony coach who only became the best because he defeated the almighty Phil Jackson and the Lakers in the NBA Finals, when they believe it was really Tom Thibodeau who did all the work. Unfortunately, his tenure as a dual coach and GM exposed his penchant for favoritism, the straw that broke the camel's back being the trade for his son. Now Doc is in the hot seat.

2. Donald Sterling: A classic villain who wanted to be just like his friendly rival Dr. Jerry Buss. Ironically, by helping Dr. Buss in purchasing the Lakers, he ended up helping the Lakers. Since Dr. Buss was the one who gave him the idea of purchasing an NBA team, some considered that Sterling, aside from his cheap ways, discrimination against other races, and sexism, was also a Laker spy.

Wammy,

Tried to reply to your PM, but I am unable to send you messages. I think you need to activate being able to receive them in your control panel.

Wammy Giveaway · Post #19 » by **Wammy Giveaway** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:22 pm

TucsonClip wrote:Wammy,

Tried to reply to your PM, but I am unable to send you messages. I think you need to activate being able to receive them in your control panel.

Supposedly, to send PMs, you need to have been on the board for a certain number of days. But in my case, it was still disabled, so I had to send a technical bug request to RealGM to enable/fix this feature. You may have the same issue that I once did.

Since you were able to receive my PM, I'll go ahead and forward you my email address. We can keep contact there.

Warriors07 · Post #20 » by **Warriors07** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:51 am

I'm always been warriors fan, but Clippers were actually my second fav team, especially when I hate Lakers. I loved Elton Brand back then, and BDavis too (they almost got to play together). Griffin's rookie year was also nice to watch, but thing start going sour. Davis gone, you guys got Paul and acted like you won the championship. After that all I can remember from Clippers was flopping, dunking, and bragging. After you guys eliminated Bogutless Warriors in a very ugly way, Clippers officially my most hated team, despite the fact Harden currently flop way more than your whole team combined. Thats my case, bye bye.