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Missing out on buy outs and vet min players 

Post#1 » by Sofia » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:33 pm

Anyone else a little concerned that we always seem to have interest in these guys but we aren't landing them?

I would've thought running pick and rolls with the best pass first guard and a decent amount of court time would've been of interest to Amare.

Perkins, I thought was nearly a lock to play here, sliding Hawes to the 4 and taking minutes off Big Baby.
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Post#2 » by Cracka2Hi » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:09 pm

They could be waiting to make a run at Javalle McGee or Tayshaun Prince.
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Post#3 » by Wammy Giveaway » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:38 pm

The rumor with Prince is the Pistons are keeping him. Same with JaVale McGee. The only person who is left for the Clippers is Andrei Kirilenko, but some are speculating he may be done with basketball completely; he might retire.

I'll add this: do you think the trade for Doc's son turned everyone away from signing with the Clippers for fear of favoritism?
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Post#4 » by Neddy » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:01 am

Wammy Giveaway wrote:The rumor with Prince is the Pistons are keeping him. Same with JaVale McGee. The only person who is left for the Clippers is Andrei Kirilenko, but some are speculating he may be done with basketball completely; he might retire.

I'll add this: do you think the trade for Doc's son turned everyone away from signing with the Clippers for fear of favoritism?




how is doc getting Austin, a guard, stops from Mcgee, a center, or Prince/kirilenko, forwards, coming to us in fear of favoritism? can Austin eat away their minutes on the floor playing 3-4-5? :nonono:
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Post#5 » by LACtdom » Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:23 am

This has nothing to do with the Austin trade! It's simply that we aren't a proven team yet. We can't offer a championship opportunity like the other teams and there is no chance of us resigning them next season so it would just be a pit stop. Why would anyone want to come play for us for a few months when they could play for a contender with the opportunity to prove themselves worthy of a spot and then resign with them?
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Post#6 » by nickhx2 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:54 am

i think either

a. doc is overestimating his ability to charm players into joining us

b. players aren't too keen on the idea of playing with blake/cp3

c. we're just super duper duper unlucky because of mitigating circumstances (JO/amare wanting to play in texas, others really wanting to play for lebron, AK hating basketball, sanders hating basketball cause he's not allowed to smoke a joint while running up and down the court)

kinda lean towards C but would not be surprised if A and B were made to be known factors after the season's over.
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Post#7 » by og15 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:33 am

Well you have to consider minutes too for these guys and connections
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Post#8 » by mkwest » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:24 am

It is what it is. If you're a big, it's kind of crowded here once everyone is healthy. Dallas had an obvious need and there's familiarity with Chandler. Cleveland has Mozgov, Thompson and Love, but that LeBron guy makes it so attractive despite the front court competition.

Kirilenko was bought out, but is expected to play overseas. Who knows what Prince would have done if he were to be bought out, but it could have a been beneficial fit for both parties.
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Post#9 » by kylem4711 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:44 am

If we are going to win, it's going to be with the core we have right now. Perkins sucks, ak47, aucka, prince sucks.

Our player needs to step up.
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Post#10 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:36 pm

I feel like we need another pg and a wing, not another big man. And who ever we add just would round out the roster, we're pretty much set on our regulars at this point. It would be nice to add someone that could impact our roster, but I'm just not seeing that happening at this point of the season.
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Post#11 » by pageC4 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:28 pm

kylem4711 wrote:If we are going to win, it's going to be with the core we have right now. Perkins sucks, ak47, aucka, prince sucks.

Our player needs to step up.
Whatever players are left aren't going to be huge game changers. We didn't nab a big name last year at the trade deadline either, and in fact we got Granger and Big Baby off of waivers. This all equated to a second round exit in the playoffs, so that let's you know exactly how much of an impact players off waivers will provide. Since we didn't get a good trade we are essentially stuck with a similar result from last year.
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Post#12 » by pageC4 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:31 pm

Sofia wrote:Anyone else a little concerned that we always seem to have interest in these guys but we aren't landing them?

I would've thought running pick and rolls with the best pass first guard and a decent amount of court time would've been of interest to Amare.

Perkins, I thought was nearly a lock to play here, sliding Hawes to the 4 and taking minutes off Big Baby.
Very concerned. Last year the Sterling debacle was hanging over us like a dark cloud, so I didn't expect a huge free agent splash in the offseason, but for it to still continue means something. I think perhaps the perception of the Clippers is very negative.
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Post#13 » by Quake Griffin » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:48 pm

I'm pleased with the last 4 games.

Beat Memphis on Monday and I'll be even less worried about this.
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Post#14 » by Angel strike1 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:45 pm

kinda disappointed that we cant pick up anyone.
and amare is a wuss. he went to the mavs cause 2-3 of the people there he played with before so there is confort lvl.

dalas aint dont anything in the playoffs. and not even close to us(not assuming we doing anything either)


i was /am still hoping on prince but that was homecoming doubt they buy him out.


i guess if docs sun can get better that helps us a bit bench wise.


most of this is docs doing. as a GM he is BEyOND BAD.

you got jj for bled. and cant find anything at all.

he came in to a team that had barnes starting. poor barnes is few years older still startin.

teams 4 best players jj/blade/dj/cp3 are still same 4 players.

no improvement at all.
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Post#15 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:33 pm

I would have liked Amare, but Perkins is terrible. Perhaps somewhat useful against a team like Memphis for post defense, but he has gone way down since his ACL injury. Big Baby is definitely better than Perkins now. Prince would be nice, but he is not a huge difference maker. I think Doc should sign Nate Robinson as an insurance policy at point guard.

I think the worst is that the Clippers traded away too many draft picks. Sounds like they could have gotten Wilson Chandler if only they had a first round draft pick to give Denver.
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Post#16 » by nickhx2 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:58 pm

perkins is not a good player at this point.

but it is annoying being rejected over and over by players even if they aren't good. it's like extending the olive branch to the ugly girl in class who's also a bitch and her saying no.
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Post#17 » by QRich3 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:24 pm

It's just that we aren't considered contenders by most people. If we were 1st in the West, Perkins and them would be queuing to get here, but we're not. In any case, no waived free agent was gonna impact this team much, I think, both Perkins and Amare are pretty much done.

For this year I'm ok going to war with what we have. Next year we're gonna need to add some role players for depth if we want to do something, and I just can't see how we can do it. The next two years is when Doc's incompetence is gonna hurt us the most. I just can't imagine what's gonna happen when we can't play Barnes no more. No picks, no one with trade value and no capspace. And I don't see our FO being clever enough to add overachieving rejects of the Danny Green and Wesley Matthews type.
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Post#18 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:09 pm

Eventually, players are going to tune out when a team that never gets any further than the second round of the playoffs tries to sell itself as a contender. This just goes to show why first-round picks and trade assets are actually valuable and relying on the buyout market is not a viable strategy in the long run.

Ideally, at this point we'd use the open roster spots on young guys from the D-League on 10-days who might have upside, in the hopes of finding the next Whiteside. It's a much better strategy than to keep hoping for washed-up vets to have any impact. The problem is that Doc hates young players unless they're related to him.
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Post#19 » by Sofia » Mon Mar 2, 2015 6:26 am

Welp, hopefully we strike out on Javale.
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Post#20 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Mar 2, 2015 6:34 am

Sofia wrote:Welp, hopefully we strike out on Javale.

Why? He's better than Hawes.
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