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Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:53 am
by nba2k16
Would you do this move?

To Cleveland:
Jamal Crawford ($5.7M, 1 year left)
C.J. Wilcox ($1.2M, 2 years left)
Justin Hamilton ($1.0M, 1 year left)

to Clippers:
Anderson Varejao ($9.6M, 3 years left)
Two Future 2nds OR highly protected 1st round pick

Reasons for Cleveland:
    1) Replace JR Smith to avoid attitude problems and salary demands
    2) Reduce luxury tax by trading Andy's long contract
    3) Bring in younger depth players to complement old vets

Reasons for Clippers:
    1) Trade Crawford and hand backup backcourt reigns to Rivers and Stephneson
    2) Bring in a good backup C that is a good free throw shooter to play in crunch time
    3) Obtain future draft pick for youth or trade for future asset

Discuss below. Thanks for your thoughts!

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:11 am
by Neddy
nba2k16 wrote:Would you do this move?

To Cleveland:
Jamal Crawford ($5.7M, 1 year left)
C.J. Wilcox ($1.2M, 2 years left)
Justin Hamilton ($1.0M, 1 year left)

to Clippers:
Anderson Varejao ($9.6M, 3 years left)
Two Future 2nds OR highly protected 1st round pick

Reasons for Cleveland:
    1) Replace JR Smith to avoid attitude problems and salary demands
    2) Reduce luxury tax by trading Andy's long contract
    3) Bring in younger depth players to complement old vets

Reasons for Clippers:
    1) Trade Crawford and hand backup backcourt reigns to Rivers and Stephneson
    2) Bring in a good backup C that is a good free throw shooter to play in crunch time
    3) Obtain future draft pick for youth or trade for future asset

Discuss below. Thanks for your thoughts!

we have no need or desire to pick up that toxic contract for 10 minutes of backup play who is injury prone to begin with.

but we do have a strong interest in taking on your Haywood's expiring for the said package.

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:17 am
by nickhx2
cleveland would have to give us way more to offset it.

i love varejao but he's crazy injury prone and his contract is awful. they'd have to give us lots and lots of stuff.

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:32 am
by Roscoe Sheed
As a Pistons fan during the Rasheed era, I always despised Varejao, but I must admit he is a great hustler and pest. However, he isn't worth it because of injuries and $

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:32 am
by LACtdom
A Varejo who gets injured and doesn't play a single minute is still more valuable than having Jamal on the court IMO.

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:07 am
by og15
nba2k16 wrote:Would you do this move?

To Cleveland:
Jamal Crawford ($5.7M, 1 year left)
C.J. Wilcox ($1.2M, 2 years left)
Justin Hamilton ($1.0M, 1 year left)

to Clippers:
Anderson Varejao ($9.6M, 3 years left)
Two Future 2nds OR highly protected 1st round pick

Reasons for Cleveland:
    1) Replace JR Smith to avoid attitude problems and salary demands
    2) Reduce luxury tax by trading Andy's long contract
    3) Bring in younger depth players to complement old vets

Reasons for Clippers:
    1) Trade Crawford and hand backup backcourt reigns to Rivers and Stephneson
    2) Bring in a good backup C that is a good free throw shooter to play in crunch time
    3) Obtain future draft pick for youth or trade for future asset

Discuss below. Thanks for your thoughts!

Yea....

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:43 am
by Lindecision
Its something to think about. I know his production to salary ratio isn't great, but Varejao on less minutes would substantially reduce the risk of injury. His contract becomes non-guaranteed in a few years so he'll be a nice trade chip to have when we're capped out.

Varejao's Contract Status

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:16 am
by Ranma
While I'm a fan of Anderson Varejao's, I'm against sacrificing our cap space flexibility. Our roster is deep enough to where we don't have to taken on additional risks, especially with his susceptibility to injury. Basketball Insiders and HoopsHype have slightly conflicting cap figures for Varejao's contract, but the significant discrepancy is the non-guaranteed years of his deal. I suspect that HoopsHype is more accurate this time around in that regard and, if that is the case, I'd have to oppose the proposed trade even though Varejao would practically be a 1-year contract next summer.

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Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:21 pm
by Sofia
Varejao has averaged 35 games played over the past 5 seasons and he's coming off his biggest injury yet. Love his game, but wouldn't trade straight up, let alone "Crawford + "

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:02 pm
by kylem4711
i would trade crawford for literally anyone in the NBA.

Re: Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:11 pm
by McAdoo
kylem4711 wrote:i would trade crawford for literally anyone in the NBA.

You would take on bad contract for 3 years to a guy who never plays just to move jamal?
I mean did the guy steal your girl or something? :lol:

Re: Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:17 pm
by kylem4711
McAdoo wrote:
kylem4711 wrote:i would trade crawford for literally anyone in the NBA.

You would take on bad contract for 3 years to a guy who never plays just to move jamal?
I mean did the guy steal your girl or something? :lol:


or its the internet and i felt like going over the top like stallone

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:23 pm
by nba2k16
Sofia wrote:Varejao has averaged 35 games played over the past 5 seasons and he's coming off his biggest injury yet. Love his game, but wouldn't trade straight up, let alone "Crawford + "


The + is just salary cap fillers which I have in my proposal

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:52 pm
by Rick3263
Would keep Crawford altogether. No way to get anyone that would be equal value to the clips. Not when you consider salary and game changing ability despite his mistakes.

Re: Would you do: Crawford (+) to Cleveland for Varejao

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:29 am
by mj_shoefanatic
No thx they can keep side show bob