TucsonClip wrote:A lot of noise in defensive box plus-minus. Some of the guys on that list are off by quite a bit and that is noticeable via the noise in DBPM. Two primary examples of this are J.J. Redick and Klay Thompson. Klay is obviously a much better defender than DBPM notes (-2.1). Redick (we know for a fact) is actually a pretty good team defender and solid 1v1 (ask James Harden).
Also, its a box score statistic and Redick doesnt record steals or blocks...
Exactly, if we're gonna measure the D part of 3&D by BPM we might as well do it randomly. Also, Lance is far from a good 3PT shooter, and implying he is because he happened to shoot 19-47 this season (mostly on garbage time) is the shallowest type of analysis.
This Justin Russo guy is all over the place really, his "analysis" on Frye is pretty absurd as well. Of course the guy is not a great rim protector, if he was a rim protector shooting 58.6 TS% with a 65% 3PAr he'd be making $20M a year as a core piece on a contender, not being available for Lance and Wilcox' contracts.
That's not what you're supposed to be asking of him, he's just supposed to not tear the defense apart while he opens up things for DJ, Blake or Cole on the other end. Yes he has problems moving his feet against small guys in the P&R but he's decent enough to not be unplayable against bench players because of it, and a big advantage on the other side to compensate. He's not gonna be playing crunch time against the Warriors in May, really you're just asking him to be better than Hawes, which is a pretty realistic task. The guy is playing 17 minutes a game for an average defense in Orlando, sharing almost all of his minutes with an awful defender in Vucevic, and his defensive numbers still look good. His on/off numbers are positive, his defensive RAPM is currently in the top 50 in the league and generally everything indicates he doesn't have a considerably negative impact.
MelosSoreWrist wrote:Forte IV wrote:To me the only way I'd be up for a Lance trade is if its for Rudy Gay. I honestly don't see where Frye even fits in with this team. Once Blake is back I doubt he see's the rotation. Even now I don't think he cracks the rotation outside of maybe 6 minutes a game.
I agree with this pov. If the Clippers are going to be successful this post season, a lot has to go right in the playoffs. One of those is having Lance play like he did for Indiana his last season there.
If that's what we're banking on, we can throw the towel right here right now.
Also, what's with the Cavs trying to cockblock everyone we go after?