What to do with DeAndre

[Quake Griffin]

Are we going to max him out for age 30 to 35 seasons knowing he's not a max player? Are we going to try and convince him to take below the max next offseason?

I'm not hot on maxing him out at all.
I most certainly would trade him but that could piss Blake off and waste year 1 of his 5 year deal.


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[Roscoe Sheed]

Depends on what other teams are offering for him and also who the clippers can sign next off season

[wassuphomeboy]

Keep him if the price is right. I have zero faith in this front office getting fair value for him back in any trade. If they couldn't even get a decent haul for CP3, who is much more highly regarded around the league, they will end up dumping him for a second round pick and cash considerations because hey, he was a second round pick.

[Forte IV]

Keep him if the price is right. I have zero faith in this front office getting fair value for him back in any trade. If they couldn't even get a decent haul for CP3, who is much more highly regarded around the league, they will end up dumping him for a second round pick and cash considerations because hey, he was a second round pick.

Ugh they did get a decent value for CP3. They would have lost him for nothing.

[SportsFan215]

I say trade him to Milwaukee for Monroe (expiring)/Parker/'18 First. Get some assets back and who knows Parker could turn into the SF we've needed so badly and he's only 22.

[nickhx2]

i'd do that but i'm not sure milwaukee feels like that's their best move. depends on how they view they need jordan.

[og15]

I've been saying it, we should trade him. Just can't see how it will work, there's no justification for giving him the max next year when he will be starting the following season as a 30 year old. Now that might mean that it is likely that he takes a below max contract, I believe Dwight Howard for example did in his most recent contract. Still, I would be checking out what the market has to offer.

[Quake Griffin]

I say trade him to Milwaukee for Monroe (expiring)/Parker/'18 First. Get some assets back and who knows Parker could turn into the SF we've needed so badly and he's only 22.

I liked DJ Wilson in place of Parker and I mentioned a trade with the Bucks centered around an expiring, Wilson, and a pick.

Of course this was before Griffin re-signed and I was thinking full rebuild.

Anywho....what about DeAndre for Middleton and a pick?


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[UKClipperfan]

I say trade him to Milwaukee for Monroe (expiring)/Parker/'18 First. Get some assets back and who knows Parker could turn into the SF we've needed so badly and he's only 22.

I liked DJ Wilson in place of Parker and I mentioned a trade with the Bucks centered around an expiring, Wilson, and a pick.

Of course this was before Griffin re-signed and I was thinking full rebuild.

Anywho....what about DeAndre for Middleton and a pick?


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DJ makes a lot of sense on the Bucks. He's the rim protector they've been missing. Any potential deal is unrealistic imo, but I'd definitely do the Parker/Monroe trade. Bucks probably say no, even if they are the ones getting a 1st round pick. DJ would be a rental to the acquiring team so the value won't necessarily be there. Would also do the Middleton trade, but again equally unrealistic. Brogdon would be another guy I'd look at if the Bucks are receptive to DJ. Off ball guard that can shoot and play D.

That being said, I want DJ to stay. If Blake is Clipper royalty then so is DJ. Rim protectors like him are very hard to come by. I don't see many teams giving him a max deal either. Teams won't be as careless like the Mozgov, Deng, Crabbe and Evan Turner contracts. Based on this summers free agency, its looking like that was an anomaly. He's paid 22 now, which I think is appropriate. His next deal starting at 25 seems fine to me. If it gets out of control then cut bait and use the cap space on someone else, where a lot of big names will be on the market next summer.

[Ranma]

This should be a poll. I've already made it known that my preference is to deal DJ away. I'm not at all inclined to extend him beyond this season and, if this organization is truly serious about building a winning culture, we have to get rid of Jordan with Doc hopefully shortly to follow. Obviously, I don't want to just give DeAndre away, but I hope we lay some groundwork to pounce on a deal as soon as an appealing offer presents itself. The sooner the better for me.

[Captain Ballmer]

Answer for this question is highly related what Clippers management expecting from team next summer.
1- Are we gonna built a competitive team with what remains? If so, keep him.
2- Are we gonna develop our talents to let Blake's game shine? Let him be a 28/8/7 avg. player with MVP Type of year and make him your sell point with 70M cap space to LBJ/PG/Russ/Isaiah/CP3/Cousins.

2nd option is a risky one but what i expect from Jerry West to choose. So Trade DJ for pick and expirings since he's not making Blake's game easier on offense and almost 80% of his defensive contributions are easily replaceable with cheaper options. His goofy, laid back attitude is not helping Blake again.
"Kill the boy and let the man be born"

[UKClipperfan]

And why can't DJ be part of that culture? He's developed into an all star and a great rim protector. The only reason I can justify trading him is that he has some value and that he might be drastically overpaid in free agency. Other than that I really don't wanna see the guy go. I'd much rather see guys that I can associate as being Clippers and only Clippers. Now that Blake has resigned the plan is clearly to make the playoffs, be good or at least respectable. DJ was even part of the pitch to Gallo. Prospective free agents aren't exactly gonna look at our situation more favourably if we have some run of the mill C like Cole Aldrich instead of DJ.

[Neddy]

And why can't DJ be part of that culture? He's developed into an all star and a great rim protector. The only reason I can justify trading him is that he has some value and that he might be drastically overpaid in free agency. Other than that I really don't wanna see the guy go. I'd much rather see guys that I can associate as being Clippers and only Clippers. Now that Blake has resigned the plan is clearly to make the playoffs, be good or at least respectable. DJ was even part of the pitch to Gallo. Prospective free agents aren't exactly gonna look at our situation more favourably if we have some run of the mill C like Cole Aldrich instead of DJ.

floor spacing.

with dj, doc had to push blake out to perimeters, increase his shooting range which is good, but at the expense of his middle and low post. with cp gone, he's got the ball in his hands. might as well give him the whole floor to do it too.

[Wammy Giveaway]

There are two types of chemistry:

1. Basketball chemistry: anything associated with actual basketball performance such as team fit, rotations, defensive awareness, stuff like that.

2. Personal chemistry: portraying camaraderie with a teammate whose kinship has nothing to do with basketball such as being buddies.

DeAndre teeters towards the 2nd. While Doc Rivers has elevated his game to an All-Star debut last season, there's this school of thought that his dominance was all a facade - he cannot maintain it consistently. DeAndre was dead set on leaving the Clippers to join the Mavericks in 2015, but he came back. Why? Possibly because of his friendship with Blake Griffin. They've grown close together since Griffin's rookie season, looking out for each other, being the best of bros. The thought of abandoning Griffin and making a name for himself on his own, without any moral support, might have scared him into realizing he can't achieve success without his best friend.

Basketball is a business. It's cutthroat. Your teammates aren't your buddies, they're your businessmen. They're only here to assist you in climbing that playoff path to a championship. If off-the-court issues permeate to on-the-court, they become a distraction, and the front office will have no choice but to separate the friendship, even if it means a trade.

You have to trade DJ. As long as DeAndre is still on the Clippers, distraction will be at its peak for Griffin. If Griffin is to prove he can be the face of the franchise and not allow personal emotions get in the way of business, he must okay the Clippers to let DJ go. He's proven time and time again that he has a high work ethic. Blake Griffin still has time to shed his demons and become a solid rock for the Clippers like Tim Duncan did for the Spurs.

If he doesn't, Griffin will turn into Doc Rivers. And we know how bad he is.

[nickhx2]

3. Organic Chemistry

[nickhx2]

4. Biochemistry

[nickhx2]

should i keep googling or

[Wammy Giveaway]

should i keep googling or

I'm only talking about the two that are pertinent to basketball. All that stuff you're looking up doesn't apply here.

[UKClipperfan]

And why can't DJ be part of that culture? He's developed into an all star and a great rim protector. The only reason I can justify trading him is that he has some value and that he might be drastically overpaid in free agency. Other than that I really don't wanna see the guy go. I'd much rather see guys that I can associate as being Clippers and only Clippers. Now that Blake has resigned the plan is clearly to make the playoffs, be good or at least respectable. DJ was even part of the pitch to Gallo. Prospective free agents aren't exactly gonna look at our situation more favourably if we have some run of the mill C like Cole Aldrich instead of DJ.

floor spacing.

with dj, doc had to push blake out to perimeters, increase his shooting range which is good, but at the expense of his middle and low post. with cp gone, he's got the ball in his hands. might as well give him the whole floor to do it too.

Well, that was also down to not having any shooting at the SF position. As long as that position is filled, I don't see why DJ and Blake can't work as a frontcourt. It worked pretty well whenever CP was out injured. Its not like Blake can't utilise DJ. Can Dekker shoot at all? I hope he's at least decent. He'd be the backup 3 if the Gallo or Gay join the team.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

I'm ok to keep DJ if he wants to remain a Clipper and take less than the max. If he's looking to be a max player I think we should look to trade him. We need to remain flexible, no sense in giving him too much money.