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some years and one less chris paul too late

This is a very positive step for the organization, but we still need a real coach. Doc is incompetent at that job too.

Hire Ryan West as the new GM and call it an offseason.

although everybody said Lawrence Frank is just Doc's puppet
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https://sports.yahoo.com/clippers-coach-doc-rivers-demoted-lesser-role-front-office-180331695.html


According to Clippers owner Steve Ballmer, via ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski and later confirmed by the team, Rivers will still have a say in front office and personnel matters, but he will cede control of basketball operations to Lawrence Frank, who moved to the front office as the team’s vice president of basketball ops in 2016.

“I’ve owned the team for three years now, and I really better understand what an owner’s responsibility is — and it turns out that running a franchise and coaching are two enormous and different jobs,” Ballmer told ESPN. “The notion that one person can fairly focus on them and give them all the attention they need isn’t the case. To be as good as we can be, to be a championship franchise, we need two functioning strong people building teams out beneath them. There needs to be a healthy discussion and debate with two strong, independent minded people.”

The Clippers had seemingly been moving in this direction in an unofficial capacity ever since Frank took over as the VP of basketball operations last summer. Balmer told ESPN that Rivers put Frank “in charge of the non-coaching aspects of the front office last year.” The franchise also hired Jerry West as an advisor in June. The shift in responsibilities for Rivers had long been rumored, and is now official.

nickhx2 wrote:some years and one less chris paul too late

I hate agreeing with my enemies sometimes, but when there's a common ground found, all you can do is

Anyway, why did it take losing Chris Paul for the Clippers to clean house? Did he really mean so much to the franchise? Was losing Chris Paul the wake-up call they desperately needed to act competent for a change?

On the plus side, this might give them a little hope into getting Team Banana Boat next year before the 29 other teams in the league do. Yes, I will include the Golden State Warriors here: they want a dynasty, and if they must, they will consider the legendary Fantastic 4 if they have to. They still have Steve Kerr, you know.

As for Doc Rivers, nobody has answered this question. Who should coach the new Clippers if Doc is fired?

Furthermore, should Doc just stick to being a father?

man what a great news to wake up to.

this sounds like big Steve learning the ropes from the logo how things get done in NBA. it's too bad it took losing CP3 to get to this point, but it's also great that this happened before Doc lost all of our assets and left us to be a west coast Nets.

Wammy Giveaway wrote:

nickhx2 wrote:some years and one less chris paul too late

I hate agreeing with my enemies sometimes, but when there's a common ground found, all you can do is

Anyway, why did it take losing Chris Paul for the Clippers to clean house? Did he really mean so much to the franchise? Was losing Chris Paul the wake-up call they desperately needed to act competent for a change?

On the plus side, this might give them a little hope into getting Team Banana Boat next year before the 29 other teams in the league do. Yes, I will include the Golden State Warriors here: they want a dynasty, and if they must, they will consider the legendary Fantastic 4 if they have to. They still have Steve Kerr, you know.

As for Doc Rivers, nobody has answered this question. Who should coach the new Clippers if Doc is fired?

Furthermore, should Doc just stick to being a father?

i consider calling me an enemy an act of hostility and a reportable offense on realgm

nickhx2 wrote:

Wammy Giveaway wrote:

nickhx2 wrote:some years and one less chris paul too late

I hate agreeing with my enemies sometimes, but when there's a common ground found, all you can do is

Anyway, why did it take losing Chris Paul for the Clippers to clean house? Did he really mean so much to the franchise? Was losing Chris Paul the wake-up call they desperately needed to act competent for a change?

On the plus side, this might give them a little hope into getting Team Banana Boat next year before the 29 other teams in the league do. Yes, I will include the Golden State Warriors here: they want a dynasty, and if they must, they will consider the legendary Fantastic 4 if they have to. They still have Steve Kerr, you know.

As for Doc Rivers, nobody has answered this question. Who should coach the new Clippers if Doc is fired?

Furthermore, should Doc just stick to being a father?

i consider calling me an enemy an act of hostility and a reportable offense on realgm

hey nick, relax man. nobody takes whammy seriously anyway. look what came out of MTV and myself, we have been agreeing on virtually everything as of late!

Neddy wrote:man what a great news to wake up to.

this sounds like big Steve learning the ropes from the logo how things get done in NBA. it's too bad it took losing CP3 to get to this point, but it's also great that this happened before Doc lost all of our assets and left us to be a west coast Nets.

honestly it's great news but the damage he's inflicted has been so much, i just can't really appreciate this day.

nickhx2 wrote:

Neddy wrote:man what a great news to wake up to.

this sounds like big Steve learning the ropes from the logo how things get done in NBA. it's too bad it took losing CP3 to get to this point, but it's also great that this happened before Doc lost all of our assets and left us to be a west coast Nets.

honestly it's great news but the damage he's inflicted has been so much, i just can't really appreciate this day.

hey things could have been much, much worse. CP3 could have just signed a free agent deal, and left us with no assets. Blake could have gone and signed with say, Boston or OKC before they dealt for George. we could have sported a starting lineup of Austin/Jamal/Wes/Brice/DJ and still have the same future picks missing... and doc still our president.

Lol no one believed me when I said this was essentially the case since last season.

People were talking about Doc as a GM when he was really just a GM in name only.

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**** Michael Eaves

I wish Ballmer had never extended his contract. if he hadn't we could have gone into this off season with a new coach and new GM.
while it's a move that came too late, it is still in the right direction.
This kinda reminds me of when Sterling stripped Dunleavy of his coaching duties and made him remain as GM only, but then fired him few months after that.
While I dont expect Ballmer to fire Doc at this point, I believe he would swallow the $10 million he would be owed for the 2018-19 season and let him go at the end of this season.

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Translation: "CP3's camp really wants you to believe that he'd still be here if this happened a year ago." Anything to distract us from Harden and the Rockets' blatant tampering or CP3's own role in our playoff letdowns.

The Clippers had Lawrence Frank out front on the summer league broadcasts, doing the intragame interviews, even though Doc was in attendance--sitting next to Ballmer. As Ballmer himself noted, it was Doc who put Frank in charge of "non-coaching" operations some time ago.

None of this is new, so my only question is in the reporting and spin of this. Was Doc really demoted? It could be that Ballmer pushed Doc aside, or it could be Doc wittingly/unwittingly orchestrated this--it was Doc who brought in Frank, Doc claims to have been after Jerry West for years, and Doc completely revamped the scouting operation in September 2016, firing everyone from the Sterling regime and replacing them. He also brought in John Welch as the development guru and has been a big voice for us finally getting our own G-League team.

This front office is still the house that Doc built. Until now, with the Big 3 eating most of the cap room, we had little flexibility and few draft picks, [and not even a D-League team] so there wasn't a lot to do. But now it's game on.


The answer is probably in whether Doc retains the title of president. If so, when the time comes to fire the coach [as it invariably does], Doc just kicks himself permanently upstairs with "it was time for a change," and gets back to his dream role as semi-ceremonial head of state, not prime minister, where you get a lot of the credit and none of the blame.

Awesome news, this was always best case scenario, he keeps doing what he's good at and he even gets to save face and say it was his plan all along. I'm very curious to see if Frank will be the head of the FO long term or they're actually trying to build it all again piece by piece. The fact that they interviewed Hughes suggests the former but it'll be interesting to see how it all shapes up.

this michael eaves stuff, dude cmon.

such a drama monger. his word is worth less than sh**