2017-2018 Predictions

[Neddy]

I hope your green font is not a way out as being sarcasm. if you really mean it, prove it with normal black font.

The green font was meant to be a signal for "Go," like in a traffic light. Originally, I wanted to use red.

Went back and changed my font color.

great, we are on then!

[Neddy]

23 more wins to go.

[Neddy]

Im just gonna remind you Whammy, I do not wish to ban you and you can back out any time you want.

[Ranma]

If the Clippers make the playoffs without Chris Paul and get out of the 2nd round by any means necessary, you can ban me from this Clippers forum. I've already been banned by Clippers News Surge (formerly Top Buzz) and Clips Nation (SB Nation). All I need is one more ban (this forum), and I will never join another Clippers forum again. Consider this my public blacklisting.

What do you say, Neddy?

Just to clear things up...

1. If my prediction of a 20-62 record or anything resembling an out-of-playoffs scenario comes true, then my only request is for those people who hated me to treat me with some respect. I am zany and outrageous, but I am a human being too.

2. If the Clippers do make the playoffs and, more importantly, get out of the 2nd round, even if it means having to defeat the very man who made them relevant to do so, then I will submit a private request to the mods to ban me.

Let's do it, Neddy.

like i said before my intension was never about banning your ass. you asked for it. but the premise of your bet seems very biased because we all know we are in a rebuilding mode and it would be a super success just to get out of the first round, and you are betting our beloved franchise won't have success you are setting us to be, while you are being sure that we will be the next 76ers, which offends me to no end. like I always expressed from the day 1 you came on board, you aren't really a clipper fan. if you were, you won't be betting that our beloved franchise especially under Steve Ballmer ownership would ever stoop down to a 20 W season ever again.

I challenge you. 25 or less. otherwise you are banned.

YOU'RE ON!

So my record prediction was way off. 20-62? It's now 42-38.

But unfortunately, the Clippers will now miss the playoffs.

I was right about the general outcome. You were right about the record.

Wanna call it even?

For the record, Neddy clearly won the wager, but he's told me previously that he would let Wammy Giveaway off the hook, but you can confirm that with him later. However, as I pointed out, Wammy's assertion that a 20-52 record somehow conversely equates to both making the playoffs and also getting into past the second round as conditions made for some equivocal nonsense.

Most everyone didn't think it was a sure thing that we'd make the postseason nor did they think that we'd be a top-5 favorite to win the NBA Draft lottery, which is what 20-25 wins affords a team this season as the worst team in the NBA has just 20 wins at this point.

Like I said before, this drama was so unnecessary. Wammy, while I find your posts to be at times entertaining and even informative, I'd ask that you reconsider trying to over-dramatize things in the future. You're the one who initiated this challenge and, at the end of it, you basically asked to call things even when that was not the terms you ardently pushed for.

If you want respect, resorting to these sort of antics doesn't really help your cause at all.

Wait. How does a 20-62 record become equivalent to making the playoffs and getting past the 2nd round? I have them at 45-37 and they could just as easily miss the playoffs with that record nor is it expected that the Clips would be favored to advanced even past the 1st round with my projection.

20-62 puts us firmly in the lottery with likely the best odds in the lottery since that was the Nets' record last season. There's a big gap between likely having a top-4 draft pick to just making the playoffs.

I just don't think this drama was called for.

[Wammy Giveaway]

Where did I ever say 20-62 equaled making the playoffs? I don't think I ever implied that at all. I specifically wrote that the Clippers were going to have a 20-62 record, which implies missing the playoffs completely. I am going through my previous posts right now and I can't find that line. Can you highlight it for me?

Other than that, all I ever wanted in this sports board was to be loved and respected. I remember the first time I posted my Clippers Season Wrap Up link here and got a good reply from Neddy. Next thing I knew, the more I hung out, he went all weird on me, calling me out a traitor and Laker spy. Few months later, I had a select group of users, Illastrate in particular, putting me on the ignore list. I brushed it off for the while, hoping that someday people will like what I write or post, and I can accept whatever corrections they may have.

Then on Twitter, just yesterday I asked an innocent question to a former Clipperblog colleague, only to be cursed out, meme'd, and trolled by Clipper fans. The colleague never replied to my question, but I did receive an answer from somebody with an intelligent and unbiased option.

You see, nobody loves me. Everybody hates me. And that's the main reason I did that bet. I was losing interest in the team and was started to wade out of basketball, but I wasn't sure. So I knew that if I did this bet and lost, then maybe it was divine intervention that I had to move on.

Maybe it's better I just leave the RealGM Forum.

[Neddy]

If the Clippers make the playoffs without Chris Paul and get out of the 2nd round by any means necessary, you can ban me from this Clippers forum. I've already been banned by Clippers News Surge (formerly Top Buzz) and Clips Nation (SB Nation). All I need is one more ban (this forum), and I will never join another Clippers forum again. Consider this my public blacklisting.

What do you say, Neddy?

Just to clear things up...

1. If my prediction of a 20-62 record or anything resembling an out-of-playoffs scenario comes true, then my only request is for those people who hated me to treat me with some respect. I am zany and outrageous, but I am a human being too.

2. If the Clippers do make the playoffs and, more importantly, get out of the 2nd round, even if it means having to defeat the very man who made them relevant to do so, then I will submit a private request to the mods to ban me.

Let's do it, Neddy.

like i said before my intension was never about banning your ass. you asked for it. but the premise of your bet seems very biased because we all know we are in a rebuilding mode and it would be a super success just to get out of the first round, and you are betting our beloved franchise won't have success you are setting us to be, while you are being sure that we will be the next 76ers, which offends me to no end. like I always expressed from the day 1 you came on board, you aren't really a clipper fan. if you were, you won't be betting that our beloved franchise especially under Steve Ballmer ownership would ever stoop down to a 20 W season ever again.

I challenge you. 25 or less. otherwise you are banned.

YOU'RE ON!

So my record prediction was way off. 20-62? It's now 42-38.

But unfortunately, the Clippers will now miss the playoffs.

I was right about the general outcome. You were right about the record.

Wanna call it even?

For the record, Neddy clearly won the wager, but he's told me previously that he would let Wammy Giveaway off the hook, but you can confirm that with him later. However, as I pointed out, Wammy's assertion that a 20-52 record somehow conversely equates to both making the playoffs and also getting into past the second round as conditions made for some equivocal nonsense.

Most everyone didn't think it was a sure thing that we'd make the postseason nor did they think that we'd be a top-5 favorite to win the NBA Draft lottery, which is what 20-25 wins affords a team this season as the worst team in the NBA has just 20 wins at this point.

Like I said before, this drama was so unnecessary. Wammy, while I find your posts to be at times entertaining and even informative, I'd ask that you reconsider trying to over-dramatize things in the future. You're the one who initiated this challenge and, at the end of it, you basically asked to call things even when that was not the terms you ardently pushed for.

If you want respect, resorting to these sort of antics doesn't really help your cause at all.

Wait. How does a 20-62 record become equivalent to making the playoffs and getting past the 2nd round? I have them at 45-37 and they could just as easily miss the playoffs with that record nor is it expected that the Clips would be favored to advanced even past the 1st round with my projection.

20-62 puts us firmly in the lottery with likely the best odds in the lottery since that was the Nets' record last season. There's a big gap between likely having a top-4 draft pick to just making the playoffs.

I just don't think this drama was called for.

damn, i posted elsewhere before i saw this post.

thanks, homie. still alive and kicking, my man.

[Dynamix]

You see, nobody loves me. Everybody hates me. And that's the main reason I did that bet. I was losing interest in the team and was started to wade out of basketball, but I wasn't sure. So I knew that if I did this bet and lost, then maybe it was divine intervention that I had to move on.

Maybe it's better I just leave the RealGM Forum.

I don't think anyone here hates you. They might not agree with most of your far-fetched narrative heavy posts, and call you out on it from time to time, but that's about it. As for Twitter, most human interaction that takes place there is a garbage fire, so don't get too worked up about it.
As for being loved, that's something you should aspire to in real life, not on some message board.

Like I said in another thread, I hope you continue posting here, because it definitely adds some spice to regular conversations. Please don't make yourself believe that everyone wants you out and try to differentiate between (sometimes strong) disagreement and outright hate.

[Ranma]

Where did I ever say 20-62 equaled making the playoffs? I don't think I ever implied that at all. I specifically wrote that the Clippers were going to have a 20-62 record, which implies missing the playoffs completely. I am going through my previous posts right now and I can't find that line. Can you highlight it for me?

The bet was an either/or proposition. You stated that you thought the Clippers would have a 20-62 record then added that another condition to the bet such as getting past the second-round of the playoffs. Why was that even necessary to add that to begin with when nobody asked you to and unnecessary? You could have simply made the bet about whether the Clippers made the playoffs or not, but instead, you chose to stake that the team would have the aforementioned record and that the team would need to get past the second round of the playoffs. I quoted you where you bolded and underlined "and". Neddy asked for clarification as you were making equivocal statements that implied that it would give you leeway on the terms, which you double-downed on. Despite that, you then basically asked to change the terms in calling things even when nobody but you insisted on these absurd conditions to begin with.

I didn't mean that a 20-62 record literally equated to making the playoffs, but I cited how uneven your terms were. Stating a team would have the worst record in the league automatically assumes the team wouldn't make the playoffs, anyway, so why add the other term? Notice my use of the word "conversely". If you don't see how claiming that a team with the worst record in the league is not conversely equal to that same team making it past the 2nd round of the playoffs, then I can't help you any further.

Other than that, all I ever wanted in this sports board was to be loved and respected. I remember the first time I posted my Clippers Season Wrap Up link here and got a good reply from Neddy. Next thing I knew, the more I hung out, he went all weird on me, calling me out a traitor and Laker spy. Few months later, I had a select group of users, Illastrate in particular, putting me on the ignore list. I brushed it off for the while, hoping that someday people will like what I write or post, and I can accept whatever corrections they may have.

Then on Twitter, just yesterday I asked an innocent question to a former Clipperblog colleague, only to be cursed out, meme'd, and trolled by Clipper fans. The colleague never replied to my question, but I did receive an answer from somebody with an intelligent and unbiased option.

You see, nobody loves me. Everybody hates me. And that's the main reason I did that bet. I was losing interest in the team and was started to wade out of basketball, but I wasn't sure. So I knew that if I did this bet and lost, then maybe it was divine intervention that I had to move on.

Maybe it's better I just leave the RealGM Forum.

Do whatever you want. Like I said, I generally don't have a problem with your posts and I've come to your defense on occasion, but I hold people accountable for what they post. You should know this as I haven't changed that stance from my time here or in the Scout forum we used to frequent together.

I started out on a bit of difficult terms with Quake Griffin and JGOJustin but I'd like to think that we share a mutual respect for each other given our previous lengthy exchanges going over our differences to eventually find some common ground. I bring this up to hopefully serve as an example of giving respect to posters by engaging in honest debate and discussion even when there are differences of opinion.

Creating drama just because you want respect and love is not something that is considered at all dignified but is more indicative of immature behavior. I'm uninterested and, quite frankly, find such behavior to be repugnant in wasting other people's time and consideration. You cite being called out for not being a true Clippers fan, but then go on to justify your call for attention, in part, by saying that you were losing interest in the team, which started to carry over to basketball itself. Do you not see the irony in that? Just like trying to gain respect by conducting yourself in a disrespectful manner.

Even now, nobody is calling for you to leave. You're the one bringing it up and initiating the possibility. Like I've said, do what you want as I no longer have the patience to indulge such antics. Respect is something earned and not just handed out just because you want it, so I would consider what I and others have advised you to re-evaluate.

[Neddy]

whammy,

if you want to be loved, look to your family and friends in real life first. internet's primary function is for porn, to shop, and to have an occasional spat over sports. (and to bash politicians, if you are into that stuff)

if you want to be respected, then post your ideas based on evidence, not from Alex Jones-like conspiracy sites or straight from your behind. provide tangible arguments and not fantasy, then man up when others debate your idea, rather than to result to throwing childish tantrums. if your idea gets picked apart and you did not have a convincing rebuttal, your idea was probably not very good to begin with. if you can man up and engage in discussions with solid logic that shows thoughtful process in your argument, then others will respect your views. coming up with even more crazy and wacky ideas one after another, will simply continue to erode your credibility, which is the reason why you feel your POVs are not respected.

^just my 2 cents, whammy. and just like your bet, this advise too, you can take it or leave it.

[Ranma]

NBA Awards
MVP: Kahwi Leonard
DPOY: Kawhi Leonard
MIP: Joel Embiid
ROY: Jayson Tatum
6MOY: Lou Williams
EOY: Sam Presti
COY: Brad Stevens