What's a reason to keep faith in this organization?

[wassuphomeboy]

This was a stab in the back and a spit in the face all at once by anyone and everyone who had a hand in this happening.

Even if this rationale that Blake is somehow not worth his contract is true, why couldn't they at least be upfront with it before signing him to that contract in the first place and leading him(and us) on with that whole video about him being the face of the franchise?

And, if they didn't think that's true, WHY TRADE CP3?

(Either way, this whole schpiel about this trade being something "good" in the long-term sounds way more like a company line backsie from a clueless, incompetent FO than a justifiable basketball reason, especially in light of the CP3 trade. Stay woke or they will keep carrying on this Ponzi scheme)

Trading not one, but TWO franchise players for pennies on the dollar not even a full year apart just screams of the you-know-who owned Clippers (I HATE saying this, but it MUST BE SAID more than I HATE saying this, many MANY times more).

Also, if they think this "cap space" will somehow paper over the gaping lack of credibility this front office now has with an increasingly player-friendly NBA(rightfully so, IMO.), they will be sadly mistaken. Still think PG13 is coming to the Clippers now?

Even if we eventually contend again, it's just not going to be the same without Blake (and DJ soon too, by the looks of this).

I know the team comes first, but a team is composed of individual players, front office people, and fans, not the other way around, and if you only utilize them for what they can do for you and then callously throw them aside when they've served their purpose, you don't have a franchise anymore.

I'll always love them from a personal/player perspective, but the business aspect side of things (which it is first) really sours me, and I'm not sure that damage can be repaired at this point.

[mttwlsn16]

Would you have rather theylet him walk as a FA? At least we got something for him and jump started the rebuild. As long as GS is around we had no chance for the next several years.

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[MartinToVaught]

As long as Doc and Austin are running the show, there's no reason to have any faith in this organization anymore.

[Quake Griffin]

Good thing I’ve been vocal about not wanting Paul George in the first place.

And yes, if you callously (as you put it) cast players away, you will still have a franchise. The Clippers are not the first team to make a huge blockbuster and go in a different direction. They certainly won’t be the last. Each organization owes its fans to do its best job to put a winner out there and if you aren’t a part of that formula, they should move on from you.


Who remembers Pats fans crying about Lawyer Millloy? I certainly do. The Patriots don’t have an organization anymore because they callously cast him to the side? Oh nope. Just looks like they made the smart decision - betting on the hoodie and Tom, not some hall of very good safety.


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[wassuphomeboy]

Good thing I’ve been vocal about not wanting Paul George in the first place.

And yes, if you callously (as you put it) cast players away, you will still have a franchise. The Clippers are not the first team to make a huge blockbuster and go in a different direction. They certainly won’t be the last. Each organization owes its fans to do its best job to put a winner out there and if you aren’t a part of that formula, they should move on from you.


Who remembers Pats fans crying about Lawyer Millloy? I certainly do. The Patriots don’t have an organization anymore because they callously cast him to the side? Oh nope. Just looks like they made the smart decision - betting on the hoodie and Tom, not some hall of very good safety.


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Did you seriously just compare this laughingstock of an organization to the PATRIOTS?

Even if the Clippers somehow got a Tom Brady, they'll end up trading him away for a sixth round pick. Even if they don't have sixth round picks in the NBA, these clowns will still magically find a way.

Assuming you're not trolling, talk about salt in the wound.

Do hand me whatever Kool-Aid you're drinking if it's what's helping you get through this.

[Quake Griffin]

Good thing this is sports and you don’t have to be a joke of an organization forever. NVM that the comparison was teams “callously” moving on from players, not Clippers-Patriots...

I hope the Clippers take their cues from winning organizations like the Pats or Spurs...not teams like the Browns or Wolves...and I hope when they do take their cues from these winners, there isn’t some goof troop yelling from the peanut gallery, “you are comparing yourself to the Patriots??” with forced laugh emojis to boot.


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[Neddy]

This was a stab in the back and a spit in the face all at once by anyone and everyone who had a hand in this happening.

Even if this rationale that Blake is somehow not worth his contract is true, why couldn't they at least be upfront with it before signing him to that contract in the first place and leading him(and us) on with that whole video about him being the face of the franchise?

And, if they didn't think that's true, WHY TRADE CP3?

(Either way, this whole schpiel about this trade being something "good" in the long-term sounds way more like a company line backsie from a clueless, incompetent FO than a justifiable basketball reason, especially in light of the CP3 trade. Stay woke or they will keep carrying on this Ponzi scheme)

Trading not one, but TWO franchise players for pennies on the dollar not even a full year apart just screams of the you-know-who owned Clippers (I HATE saying this, but it MUST BE SAID more than I HATE saying this, many MANY times more).

Also, if they think this "cap space" will somehow paper over the gaping lack of credibility this front office now has with an increasingly player-friendly NBA(rightfully so, IMO.), they will be sadly mistaken. Still think PG13 is coming to the Clippers now?

Even if we eventually contend again, it's just not going to be the same without Blake (and DJ soon too, by the looks of this).

I know the team comes first, but a team is composed of individual players, front office people, and fans, not the other way around, and if you only utilize them for what they can do for you and then callously throw them aside when they've served their purpose, you don't have a franchise anymore.

I'll always love them from a personal/player perspective, but the business aspect side of things (which it is first) really sours me, and I'm not sure that damage can be repaired at this point.

hope you are going to be able to recover from this trauma, as I can relate to. I too have lost Danny Manning, then his replacement, Dominique Wilkins, Ron Harper, Ken Norman, Doc himself and even Mark Jackson. man do I ever miss Robert Stanley.

but the point is, RELAX......

Blake was symbolically important as that potential first Clipper jersey to be retired, but which is more important, a jersey or a championship? Blake, was supposed to be that Batman to lead us head on, but he never became that. he settled to being a Robin, whether it was with CP or recently with Lou. this is actually a brilliant move which gets us much closer to the unicorn for us which has been the NBA's Larry O's Trophy. I understand the emotional hurt that comes from the loss of current superstar that we never had a chance to draft and develop before him, but truly, the haul we have gotten, you have to remember not the value we perceive to be worthy of Blake, but the objective assessment of other franchises considering the contract he comes with, this is a good deal.

only regret is that we could not make the deal in such a way to facilitate not 1 but 2 first rounders out of this.

[Clemenza]

I'm bummed Blake is gone as well. F*cking sucks.. but I say lets trust Jerry West for now. Patience is the key.

[DLaren]

Isn't it amazing how in love everyone is with Jerry West? It's almost cult-like at this point.

A day ago, if I would have made a post suggesting we trade Blake Griffin for Tobias Harris & Avery Bradley I would've been shot on sight...

...but Jerry West does exactly that and Clipper fans are acting like we just pulled the greatest coup of our generation.

I can't give you a reason to have faith in this organization, OP, and after this trade I certainly won't list West as a reason to believe.

It doesn't seem to matter who the owner is, or whose running the front-office, or which players put on a Clippers jersey -- the result has always been the same.

At this point, the only thing I have faith in is the Clippers sabotaging themselves whenever we're on the verge of doing something special.

[QRich3]

I like the bobbleheads they've been giving out. The Milos-jedi one was well done and the one with Gallo dunking on the Tower of Pisa was fun.

[RonMexico915]

I just don't understand why you trade him when we've been playing good basketball of late. Trade DJ or Lou, fine, but not Blake. Unless LeBron and PG are both coming next year, this makes no sense. Even then, who will be on the team with those 2, to put us over the top?

[wassuphomeboy]

Good thing this is sports and you don’t have to be a joke of an organization forever. NVM that the comparison was teams “callously” moving on from players, not Clippers-Patriots...

I hope the Clippers take their cues from winning organizations like the Pats or Spurs...not teams like the Browns or Wolves...and I hope when they do take their cues from these winners, there isn’t some goof troop yelling from the peanut gallery, “you are comparing yourself to the Patriots??” with forced laugh emojis to boot.


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The fact you don't see a problem with the way this franchise handled Blake, and are actually actively trying to justify, even encourage this kind of thing, might actually be worse than the trade itself from my perspective.

To put it mildly, the Clippers simply lack the track record the Patriots have to justify this kind of move. Maybe it works out, and I'll acknowledge it if it does, but there are ramifications beyond just dollars and cents with this one,

Let's say, EVEN IF hypothetically Blake isn't going to live up to his contract, what kind of message does it send to send your franchise player packing mere months after you sign him to the max and promise him a future as the face of the franchise?

Especially given the whole point of trading Blake/CP3 is, apparently, to rebuild through FA, If they could do this to their own guy, what reason does a FA with no ties to the Clippers have for signing here now, knowing if this kind of thing could happen?

Loyalty is supposed to mean something. If you can't even be bothered to pretend it does, you're frankly asking for whatever happens after

Really struggling to find positives with this one and I don't think I'll ever find any

[MartinToVaught]

LOL at spinning this as taking cues from the Spurs. The Spurs didn't treat DRob like this. They didn't treat Duncan like this. They've been criticized for being too loyal to an aging Manu and Parker! This is the opposite of a Spurs move. Moves like these are why the Spurs have five rings and the Clippers are the Browns of the NBA.

[mttwlsn16]

LOL at spinning this as taking cues from the Spurs. The Spurs didn't treat DRob like this. They didn't treat Duncan like this. They've been criticized for being too loyal to an aging Manu and Parker! This is the opposite of a Spurs move. Moves like these are why the Spurs have five rings and the Clippers are the Browns of the NBA.

Please tell us all how much we've won with Blake, and how much we would win during the next 5 years with him.
The answer is nothing, and nothing.

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[MartinToVaught]

LOL at spinning this as taking cues from the Spurs. The Spurs didn't treat DRob like this. They didn't treat Duncan like this. They've been criticized for being too loyal to an aging Manu and Parker! This is the opposite of a Spurs move. Moves like these are why the Spurs have five rings and the Clippers are the Browns of the NBA.

Please tell us all how much we've won with Blake, and how much we would win during the next 5 years with him.
The answer is nothing, and nothing.

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How much did we win before Blake? How much will we win after him? The answer is nothing, and - barring a few miracles - nothing anytime soon.

The Clippers were the biggest joke in sports until Blake showed up. He legitimized us and gave us sustained winning basketball for the first time ever. Even if he never got us a ring, he did plenty for this franchise. The lack of appreciation from our fans and our front office is stunning.

[mttwlsn16]

LOL at spinning this as taking cues from the Spurs. The Spurs didn't treat DRob like this. They didn't treat Duncan like this. They've been criticized for being too loyal to an aging Manu and Parker! This is the opposite of a Spurs move. Moves like these are why the Spurs have five rings and the Clippers are the Browns of the NBA.

Please tell us all how much we've won with Blake, and how much we would win during the next 5 years with him.
The answer is nothing, and nothing.

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How much did we win before Blake? How much will we win after him? The answer is nothing, and - barring a few miracles - nothing anytime soon.

The Clippers were the biggest joke in sports until Blake showed up. He legitimized us and gave us sustained winning basketball for the first time ever. Even if he never got us a ring, he did plenty for this franchise. The lack of appreciation from our fans and our front office is stunning.

We were nothing until CP3 showed up you mean.

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[wassuphomeboy]

Neither CP3 nor Blake was the problem (remember, they led the best starting 5 in the entire by point differential a couple of years ago). It was the front office's inability to surround them with a proper supporting cast.

Funny how the players pay the price while the FO gets to stick around.

[MartinToVaught]

Please tell us all how much we've won with Blake, and how much we would win during the next 5 years with him.
The answer is nothing, and nothing.

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How much did we win before Blake? How much will we win after him? The answer is nothing, and - barring a few miracles - nothing anytime soon.

The Clippers were the biggest joke in sports until Blake showed up. He legitimized us and gave us sustained winning basketball for the first time ever. Even if he never got us a ring, he did plenty for this franchise. The lack of appreciation from our fans and our front office is stunning.

We were nothing until CP3 showed up you mean.

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CP3 doesn't show up without Blake here first.

[madmaxmedia]

Re-signing Blake was the right thing to do, but that doesn't make trading him the wrong thing to do either. I do wonder about that whole song and dance they did for him, how much they meant it at the time. I do believe the reports that Detroit approached the Clippers about the trade, if Clippers were even semi-shopping Blake around we would have heard rumors/reports about that.

I'm more personally disappointed for Blake than I am for the Clippers, I'm assuming he would have preferred to stay in LA. But I hope he stays healthy and does great things there. As far as the Clippers go though, his contract, age, and value were an open question. I think Blake's marketability and fame outweighed his actual on-court production (which of course is still very good.) 2 years ago Blake had better trade value, but 2 years from now he will have far worse trade value.

If we trade DJ and Lou for a couple of mid to later 1st round picks, that gives us 4 to work with in the upcoming draft. We'll try to move up and could end up with 2 or 3 nice picks, and I would be really interested to see what Jerry West can do with them. Of course, drafting star players gets really dicey outside the top 4 or 5, but who knows. We do lose an exciting player, but this team could still be very interesting to watch next year for Clipper fans who are real basketball fans.

Jerry West isn't always right, but in retrospect if we knew ahead of time all these moves that were coming, I'd still support bringing him in. Add to that a ultra-rich owner who actually has passion for the game, and I am absolutely okay with the organization. I kind of see parallels in this trade with the Paul Gasol trade, there was outrage that the Grizzlies got fleeced but it helped set the table for the better team they ultimately became.

[Quake Griffin]

Good thing this is sports and you don’t have to be a joke of an organization forever. NVM that the comparison was teams “callously” moving on from players, not Clippers-Patriots...

I hope the Clippers take their cues from winning organizations like the Pats or Spurs...not teams like the Browns or Wolves...and I hope when they do take their cues from these winners, there isn’t some goof troop yelling from the peanut gallery, “you are comparing yourself to the Patriots??” with forced laugh emojis to boot.


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The fact you don't see a problem with the way this franchise handled Blake, and are actually actively trying to justify, even encourage this kind of thing, might actually be worse than the trade itself from my perspective.

To put it mildly, the Clippers simply lack the track record the Patriots have to justify this kind of move. Maybe it works out, and I'll acknowledge it if it does, but there are ramifications beyond just dollars and cents with this one,

Let's say, EVEN IF hypothetically Blake isn't going to live up to his contract, what kind of message does it send to send your franchise player packing mere months after you sign him to the max and promise him a future as the face of the franchise?

Especially given the whole point of trading Blake/CP3 is, apparently, to rebuild through FA, If they could do this to their own guy, what reason does a FA with no ties to the Clippers have for signing here now, knowing if this kind of thing could happen?

Loyalty is supposed to mean something. If you can't even be bothered to pretend it does, you're frankly asking for whatever happens after

Really struggling to find positives with this one and I don't think I'll ever find any

Again.
Explain to me how you want our front office to think when they make moves? Do you want them to be cowards? Unsure of themself? Do you want them to say, “we don’t have the track record, so let’s do nothing and consequently, not build a track record”???

Do you want loyalty to govern every decision they make? With friends like MTV ready to blame everyone except, Blake....why?

This isn’t feasible.
They want to win. Good luck thinking $173 million of oft-injured Blake is getting you to the Promised Land.

You and the rest of the fans will get over it.




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