Sindarius Thornwell's Potential

MartinToVaught · Post #1 » by **MartinToVaught** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:22 pm

Sin is going to be a really good wing in this league. He deserves more minutes next season.

Dynamix · Post #2 » by **Dynamix** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:52 pm

It's too bad that he fell out of the rotation in the middle of the season, would've loved to see a bit more of him. Felt like he was just finding his groove during these last few games.

Akklaim1 · Post #3 » by **Akklaim1** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:07 pm

Dwyane Wade without the passing

Akklaim1 · Post #4 » by **Akklaim1** » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:07 pm

Dwyane Wade without the passing

Quake Griffin · Post #5 » by **Quake Griffin** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:48 am

A little investment in the draft by the right people and voila, an NBA player appears.

Honestly can’t wait to see what he can do for his 2019 campaign.

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esqtvd · Post #6 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:58 am

classic tweener at 6'4"/6'5"
a dominant college SF

which means nothing in the NBA

hey I'll place a bet on Sindarius's character

if he can stick that 3
he's already got the D

he can become an NBA shooting guard
if he learns to shoot

but please let's not get too excited
in the last [meaningless] game with the Lakers
he stuck 3-3 on open 3s

but missed his other 6 shots to finish 3-9
with 2 assists and 4 turnovers

the Lakers' G-Leaguers outplayed ours
it was a G-League game

Dynamix · Post #7 » by **Dynamix** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:37 am

I think we're just the right amount of excited for a second round pick that's showing some promising qualities, after so many years of getting absolutely nothing from our rookies. Sure, it doesn't hurt to get heavy minutes due to injuries.
Not everyone is going to kill it in their first season. Look at Reggie Bullock, took him 4 years to become a solid starter. There's really no downside in trying to develop the offense of willing defenders like Sin, Ty, or Jawun, as opposed to complete dead weight like Brice. At the very least they could become decent assets in some future trades, not just filler.

MartinToVaught · Post #8 » by **MartinToVaught** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:12 pm

esqtvd wrote:classic tweener at 6'4"/6'5"
a dominant college SF

which means nothing in the NBA

hey I'll place a bet on Sindarius's character

if he can stick that 3
he's already got the D

he can become an NBA shooting guard
if he learns to shoot

but please let's not get too excited
in the last [meaningless] game with the Lakers
he stuck 3-3 on open 3s

but missed his other 6 shots to finish 3-9
with 2 assists and 4 turnovers

the Lakers' G-Leaguers outplayed ours
it was a G-League game

It's sad that you can't even be excited about a young player on the rise because it conflicts with your agendas. :noway:

esqtvd · Post #9 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:55 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
esqtvd wrote:classic tweener at 6'4"/6'5"
a dominant college SF

which means nothing in the NBA

hey I'll place a bet on Sindarius's character

if he can stick that 3
he's already got the D

he can become an NBA shooting guard
if he learns to shoot

but please let's not get too excited
in the last [meaningless] game with the Lakers
he stuck 3-3 on open 3s

but missed his other 6 shots to finish 3-9
with 2 assists and 4 turnovers

the Lakers' G-Leaguers outplayed ours
it was a G-League game

It's sad that you can't even be excited about a young player on the rise because it conflicts with your agendas.

please stop trolling me, bruh

I am not assassinating his character
I said I'll place a bet on it

I'm talking about basketball

if he can stick that 3
he's already got the D

he can become an NBA shooting guard
if he learns to shoot

MartinToVaught · Post #10 » by **MartinToVaught** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:03 pm

I started a thread to praise one of our players for the skills he's developed. You came in to dump all over it. And that makes me the troll how?

I mean, really. He shot 39% on catch-and-shoot threes and 41% on open threes and you're still talking about "if he learns to shoot." He could start shooting like Ray Allen next year and you'd say he should be sent to the D-League until he starts shooting like Steph Curry.

The obvious truth here is that Thornwell is the worst nightmare for your agendas: a player we drafted who's already better than Austin. You'll never give him any credit and always grasp at straws to downplay his talent.

esqtvd · Post #11 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:46 pm

We shall see. Mbah a Moute and Matt Barnes could hit open threes too, but that opportunity doesn't come up as much as you think, and you need somebody else to gift-wrap it for you.

As I recall you were crowing during the Lakers game when Sindarius hit 3-3 from distance. What you skipped over was that he missed his other 6 shots and had 4 TOs to go along with only 2 assists. He has a ways to go yet. He's still a liability on offense, which is why he lost his minutes to Ty Wallace.

I hope he does get better, because I don't see Austin still here in 2019-20.

MartinToVaught · Post #12 » by **MartinToVaught** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:50 pm

Thornwell didn't lose minutes because of any flaws in his game. He lost minutes because Doc only ever paid attention to or cared about Austin's minutes.

esqtvd · Post #13 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:59 pm

Ty taking Sindarius's minutes had nothing to do with Austin. Against the Lakers, they had 6 assists and 8 TOs between them. Neither can run the point. [In the same game, Austin had 6 assists and zero TOs in only 20 minutes.]

Quake Griffin · Post #14 » by **Quake Griffin** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:52 am

Sindarius’s success is great on two fronts.

Good kid that I want to see succeed and he represents our franchise developing talent.

It’s almost hard to say anything negative about him/ this topic.

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Neddy · Post #15 » by **Neddy** » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:09 am

I love Sindarius' game. he's definitely got a potential to be a key rotational player.

and to be clear, this is MTV's thread. he is replying to a post that gave a rebuttal to the OP. trolling happens when an outsider comes in with an intention to cause harm and inflame the situation rather than to contribute to the thread. I don't see how this case fits the definition.

donemilio21 · Post #16 » by **donemilio21** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:55 pm

I believe the reason we drafted Thornwell was not because he had potential, but because he was ready to contribute. Remember, he wasn't a 19 yo kid, like most 1st round picks these days. He was 22. So when you are a playoff team and you find a guy who can come and play 10 minutes a game in the middle of 2nd round of the draft, you take him.
While he has contributed less than I hoped for throughout the season, I think he can be a decent rotation (15-18 min a game) player next season.

esqtvd · Post #17 » by **esqtvd** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:27 pm

donemilio21 wrote:I believe the reason we drafted Thornwell was not because he had potential, but because he was ready to contribute. Remember, he wasn't a 19 yo kid, like most 1st round picks these days. He was 22. So when you are a playoff team and you find a guy who can come and play 10 minutes a game in the middle of 2nd round of the draft, you take him.

While he has contributed less than I hoped for throughout the season, I think he can be a decent rotation (15-18 min a game) player next season.

Good point. The big question mark is that at age 24 in November, he has to retool his offensive game in both shooting and ballhandling to become a genuine NBA guard. His percentages were about the same as Austin's [43%/38%] but that's partly because he shot rarely. 8.8 points per 36 minutes is not going to get it done, nor is an assist-to-turnover ratio of almost 1-to-1 [2.1/1.7 per 36 minutes].

Sindarius's age may have been a factor too in his early success too.

Thornwell’s solid defensive play might be more related to his age (23) than his rookie status. Sindarius has grown into his body more than most rookies. His NBA-ready frame is a huge part of his defensive success.

I'm certainly not going to write him off--he was the leader, heart, and soul of a South Carolina team that made the Final Four. But it was at SF, and besides, older players tend to excel in the NCAAs, and that's not always projectable to the NBA.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/03/march-madness-heroes-nba-busts/

Post #18 » by **og15** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:50 am

It's hard to say. He's a 23 year old rookie, so he isn't a super young potential guy. He showed good straight line ability and ability to get to the line, which is good for a rookie. He didn't have the volume, but his 3PT% was good on his 61 attempts.

If he maintains himself as a 36%+ 3PT shooter, continues to learn on defense and can still make timely drives to the basket and get to the line, I would say that a decent comparison is Denver version of Arron Afflalo.

esqtvd · Post #19 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:52 pm

og15 wrote:It's hard to say. He's a 23 year old rookie, so he isn't a super young potential guy. He showed good straight line ability and ability to get to the line, which is good for a rookie. He didn't have the volume, but his 3PT% was good on his 61 attempts.

If he maintains himself as a 36%+ 3PT shooter, continues to learn on defense and can still make timely drives to the basket and get to the line, I would say that a decent comparison is Denver version of Arron Afflalo.

Good comparison--height, stats and tenacious D match up. Afflalo has had a solid if unspectacular NBA career. Sindarius would do well to match it.

TucsonClip · Post #20 » by **TucsonClip** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:36 am

I can see the Afflalo comp. Sind looks like he has a bit more getup, but I would gladly take Arron Afflalo.