2019 - 2021 Free-Agents
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Pretty big waste of effort on LeBron's part, since the Raptors are going to the Finals and Kawhi's staying.
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Nonsense. Toronto is a cowtown...a one stop light town. All of the citizens are hooked up to well water. It has no fine restaurants/ cuisine. It has no nice real estate. It has no night life. He's coming to Los Angeles - the only city in the world where multi-millionaires can enjoy life.
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Hopefully once Kawhi turns us down, this front office will take the hint and stop begging for free agents. The rumors were fun and all, but at the end of the day, we're the Clippers, not some glamor franchise who can sign anyone we want. If we're ever going to win a title, it's going to have to be done the hard way, with a core full of players we drafted and developed. Thankfully, we have people in charge now who actually value the draft, so it's doable.
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Colin Cowherd saying he'll believe the Clippers can sign these guys.....
when they sign these guys.
Broussard saying we blew him away in our last pitch.
10:30 time stamp.
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Kevin Durant free agency: Ranking K.D.'s options, from Clippers to Knicks to staying with the Warriors
Here's the sell for the Clippers: A better current roster than New York -- by a mile -- and the flexibility to add the same two max players the Knicks can offer. Side note: If K.D. really wants to prove himself as the best player in the world, how about going heads up with LeBron in the same town, playing in the same arena, and leading the Clippers to a title before LeBron could do that same for the Lakers. That would be about as definitive a statement as Durant could make.
"The Clippers have always felt like the best situation to me," an Eastern Conference scout recently told CBS Sports. "I don't have any kind of information or any idea of what Durant is thinking, but if you just look at that roster. Guys love playing for Doc [Rivers]. That situation looks pretty good to me."
It's true. The Clippers have done tremendous work in setting up their books for this summer with the Blake Griffin, Tobias Harris and Chris Paul trades and other smaller moves, and now they have two of the biggest bargain contracts in the league with Lou Williams and Montrezl Harrell making $8 million and $6 million next year, respectively.
With Landry Shamet and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Danilo Gallinari, that's five legit players to go with potentially Durant and another max guy. Doc Rivers would be looking at a deep, balanced team whereas the Knicks would be a more traditional super-team with top-heavy talent filled out with a lot of minimum and young players. That's a blueprint to win now and into the future, as Durant might, at this point be interested in a longer-term deal.
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Oh, awesome. Can't wait for a full season of "Giannis to the Clippers" rumors that fizzle out when he leads Milwaukee to the Finals next year.
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MartinToVaught wrote:Oh, awesome. Can't wait for a full season of "Giannis to the Clippers" rumors that fizzle out when he leads Milwaukee to the Finals next year.
With no FRP coming up, buckle up.
All Clipper fans have is conjecture about free agents coming to Los Angeles.
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I keep asking but have not found a clear answer. How much would be the max KL and KD could get from the Clippers in Salary Cap money per season? If the cap is around $110 mill is it even possible to build around 3 max UFA? Seems like 2 would be possible but 3?
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Galloisdaman wrote:I keep asking but have not found a clear answer. How much would be the max KL and KD could get from the Clippers in Salary Cap money per season? If the cap is around $110 mill is it even possible to build around 3 max UFA? Seems like 2 would be possible but 3?
We can't sign 2 max contract right away. Cap space is total 108 Million $;
KD Max = 37,8 Million $(10+ year veteran max %35 of cap)
KL Max = 32,4 Million $ (5+ year veteran max %30 of cap)
These two requires 70,2 Million $ cap space. Clippers have 6 players guaranteed for 2019-2020 season at 51.5 Million $ and could have 56.5 million $ cap space if they renounce all bird rights and waive unguaranteed contracts.
Committed Salary
Danilo Gallinari $ 22,615,559
Lou Williams $ 8,000,000
Montrezl Harrell $ 6,000,000
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander $ 3,952,920
Jerome Robinson $ 3,567,720
Landry Shamet $ 1,995,120
We are still short about 14 million $ for the required cap space. For that we have to say good bye to Gallinari, Beverley, Jamychal Green, Ivıca Zubac, Garret Temple, Wilson Chandler, Tyrone Wallace, Sindarius Thornwell and Rodney McGruder.
2023 Clippers W/L Count (51-31)
(Russ at bench 42-15)
without PG13 3-3
Without Kawhi 7-4
Without Russ 6-6
(Russ at bench 42-15)
without PG13 3-3
Without Kawhi 7-4
Without Russ 6-6
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Galloisdaman wrote:I keep asking but have not found a clear answer. How much would be the max KL and KD could get from the Clippers in Salary Cap money per season? If the cap is around $110 mill is it even possible to build around 3 max UFA? Seems like 2 would be possible but 3?
The estimated max contracts are what DieHardFan posted, but it still depends on what the official numbers come to know exactly what you're dealing with. 3 max FA's is possible, but that means that you are trading for someone like AD and completely depleting the roster outside of max players.
If we go after 2 max FA's, Gallo would most likely need to be traded. The other alternative would be moving Lou & Trezz, while also renouncing Beverley and all other FA's, which I wouldn't anticipate the FO doing. We'd still be about $550K short of a KD & KL (or other Max FA). So unless the cap is better than expected, it's moving Gallo or bust for the 2 max hope (if one of those max FA is KD).
We could sign KD & Leonard and also keep Beverley, Zubac, Motley & McGruder. Beverley would have to accept something like $25.2M over 3, $34.9 over 4 years, etc. Bev can bumped up to $28.5M over 3, $39.4M over 4, etc. if we renounce McGruder. A lot of teams have interest in Beverley, so we might be priced out. He will be 31 and he should go after the best deal that he can get. He will also be 31 for the Clippers and they need to be smart about things.
To sum it all up...3 is theoretically "possible" but extremely unlikely outside of a video game. 2 is doable, but still requires some savviness to maximize our potential.
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DieHardFan wrote:Galloisdaman wrote:I keep asking but have not found a clear answer. How much would be the max KL and KD could get from the Clippers in Salary Cap money per season? If the cap is around $110 mill is it even possible to build around 3 max UFA? Seems like 2 would be possible but 3?
We can't sign 2 max contract right away. Cap space is total 108 Million $;
KD Max = 37,8 Million $(10+ year veteran max %35 of cap)
KL Max = 32,4 Million $ (5+ year veteran max %30 of cap)
These two requires 70,2 Million $ cap space. Clippers have 6 players guaranteed for 2019-2020 season at 51.5 Million $ and could have 56.5 million $ cap space if they renounce all bird rights and waive unguaranteed contracts.
Committed Salary
Danilo Gallinari $ 22,615,559
Lou Williams $ 8,000,000
Montrezl Harrell $ 6,000,000
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander $ 3,952,920
Jerome Robinson $ 3,567,720
Landry Shamet $ 1,995,120
We are still short about 14 million $ for the required cap space. For that we have to say good bye to Gallinari, Beverley, Jamychal Green, Ivıca Zubac, Garret Temple, Wilson Chandler, Tyrone Wallace, Sindarius Thornwell and Rodney McGruder.
Sounds like the idea of KL, KD and AD is a real lottery win then.
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If Leonard wants to stay in Toronto perhaps the clippers could get Durant and maybe a guy like Middleton?
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They could but how would KD feel knowing Clippers only turned to him AFTER Kawhi turned them down?
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wco81 wrote:They could but how would KD feel knowing Clippers only turned to him AFTER Kawhi turned them down?
Why would he feel some kind of way about it? It was never an either/or situation.
The possibility has been there for both to be signed (after trading away Gallinari's salary) if they chose to come . If they don't then it's because they preferred to play/stay elsewhere, not because of a lack of desire from the Clippers or for a financial reason.
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Because they were so obviously thirsty for Kawhi.
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lol drop the thirsty thing dude, I'm not sure how old you are, but in the corporate world, specially in multi million companies like these, being "thirsty" for adding a valuable asset will never be seen as a bad thing. No way Durant feels any sort of way about the Clippers going after Kawhi. Specially cause they've been showing him the same kind of love all year.
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