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QRich3 wrote:Now that's just an exaggeration. I get that looking at it from inside as a Warriors fan it might look like this epic never before seen stuff, but they haven't redefined basketball like that or anything close to it. They play an off-ball motion type of basketball that has been in the league longer than Rick Adelman (and not many teams have tried to replicate recently), they have this reputation of taking a lot of threes, but they aren't even an outlier in that front, they've only led the league in 3s attempted once (that year they lost), and barely. People just remember Steph taking crazy threes and think they take a lot of them. Even their death line up thing is not new, as the Heat were already playing 5-out switching defense before Draymond Green was in the league.

They have done things well though, that part is true, they've made the right decisions at the right time and had the luck of things going their way when their window opened. But other than Warriors fans, I doubt they're gonna be remembered any different than any other dynasty teams. Not trying to hate or wind you up, I honestly think that.

wco81 wrote:First of all, there’s no such title or accomplishment or award such as GOAT.

That’s just something people on the Internet to discuss.

Secondly, MJ, Magic and Bird played with some of the greatest players in those eras.

None of them singlehandedly won it by themselves. There was a 50 greatest NBA players about 10-20 years ago. That list included players like Pippen, Kareem and McHale.

And I doubt those players would look down on KD for not being alpha dog, except maybe MJ.

KD has a good chance to meet or exceed the ring counts of Magic and Bird. But he may decide to move on after this season.

Anyways, if KD had come to the Warriors in a trade or was drafted by them, the haters would still hate.

QRich3 wrote:Now that's just an exaggeration. I get that looking at it from inside as a Warriors fan it might look like this epic never before seen stuff, but they haven't redefined basketball like that or anything close to it. They play an off-ball motion type of basketball that has been in the league longer than Rick Adelman (and not many teams have tried to replicate recently), they have this reputation of taking a lot of threes, but they aren't even an outlier in that front, they've only led the league in 3s attempted once (that year they lost), and barely. People just remember Steph taking crazy threes and think they take a lot of them. Even their death line up thing is not new, as the Heat were already playing 5-out switching defense before Draymond Green was in the league.

They have done things well though, that part is true, they've made the right decisions at the right time and had the luck of things going their way when their window opened. But other than Warriors fans, I doubt they're gonna be remembered any different than any other dynasty teams. Not trying to hate or wind you up, I honestly think that.

wco81 wrote:It just goes to show how in a few years, teams have completely reversed the criteria for evaluating and valuing players. Why is that?

QRich3 wrote:
The Warriors aren't successful because they've had some groundbreaking player evaluation techniques or anything like that, they just made the right decisions and got the right players at the right moment, and developed them in the right way. Just like most winning teams ever.

wco81 wrote:They definitely lucked out as far as Curry, Klay and Draymond vastly outperforming their draft positions.

But it's what you do with those players, how you develop them and how you put a system together to maximize their strengths.

Because I don't think there's any doubt that if they kept Mark Jackson as coach, they wouldn't have had nearly the same amount of success.

Jackson hasn't gotten a sniff at another NBA HC gig since. Understandable when someone else comes in and takes pretty much the same roster and gets much better results.

The Clippers are also expected to be in the mix next summer for the services of Toronto Raptors All-Star forward Kawhi Leonard and Golden State Warriors forward Kevin Durant.

wco81 wrote:I don’t know, it may be Haynes try8ng to drum up hype for his new gig.

Wammy Giveaway wrote:Future Clippers lineup: Antetokounmpo-Butler-Leonard-Harris-wild card

That's a pretty good Big 3.

wco81 wrote:I don’t know, it may be Haynes try8ng to drum up hype for his new gig.

Ranma wrote:I agree. I don't get the sense that we're in play for Durant right now, but that's only because I expect him to re-sign with the Warriors on a max contract. Maybe he'll want to silence the critics and leave the juggernaut team to prove that he can carry a team to a championship, especially since I don't anticipate Golden State to be able to afford to keep both him and Klay Thompson with Stephen Curry maxed out and Draymond Green's new deal on the horizon. Until Durant gives me cause to think otherwise, I'm going to assume that he'll be unavailable to everyone outside of Golden State.

As I've said elsewhere, I really like our chances at signing Kawhi Leonard this summer and eventually pairing him with another star player once Gallinari's contract is off the books. There's even a decent chance of bringing back Tobias Harris to be our 3rd star.