2019 - 2021 Free-Agents

mttwlsn16 · Post #941 » by **mttwlsn16** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:13 pm

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WTF?

MartinToVaught · Post #942 » by **MartinToVaught** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:14 pm

donemilio21 · Post #943 » by **donemilio21** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:18 pm

No sure I don't get the reasoning of this deal... why do we want Harkless to take up $11m cap space? also why do we want to help Heat get Butler?

mttwlsn16 · Post #944 » by **mttwlsn16** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:19 pm

donemilio21 wrote:No sure I don't get the reasoning of this deal... why do we want Harkless to take up $11m cap space? also why do we want to help Heat get Butler?

Harkless makes $11m? Wtf

MartinToVaught · Post #945 » by **MartinToVaught** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:20 pm

donemilio21 wrote:No sure I don't get the reasoning of this deal... why do we want Harkless to take up $11m cap space? also why do we want to help Heat get Butler?

His contract is expiring, we also got a first-round pick, and we can still afford Kawhi. This trade is just a creative way to improve our team, I guess.

mttwlsn16 · Post #946 » by **mttwlsn16** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:22 pm

We should trade all these 1st rd picks we have for real people

MartinToVaught · Post #947 » by **MartinToVaught** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:22 pm

That first-round pick could also be an asset to help get Kawhi a second star in a trade if he chooses us.

wco81 · Post #948 » by **wco81** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:23 pm

I don't get what Miami is doing either.

Butler isn't going to propel that team into a higher seed. If they make the playoffs, it will be as a lower seed, playing against a juggernaut in the first round.

And they already have plenty of bad contracts on that team, including Waiters.

mttwlsn16 · Post #949 » by **mttwlsn16** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:26 pm

wco81 wrote:I don't get what Miami is doing either.

Butler isn't going to propel that team into a higher seed. If they make the playoffs, it will be as a lower seed, playing against a juggernaut in the first round.

And they already have plenty of bad contracts on that team, including Waiters.

I agree. Not like they're anywhere close to being a championship team with him. They probably go from missing the playoffs to a 6-8 seed.

mttwlsn16 · Post #950 » by **mttwlsn16** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:29 pm

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donemilio21 · Post #951 » by **donemilio21** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:45 pm

mttwlsn16 wrote:
donemilio21 wrote:No sure I don't get the reasoning of this deal... why do we want Harkless to take up $11m cap space? also why do we want to help Heat get Butler?
Harkless makes $11m? Wtf

He benefited from the infamous spending spree of 2016, got himself a 4/$42m contract despite averaging 6 points 4 boards a game. Likely to play for minimum contracts after this one.

donemilio21 · Post #952 » by **donemilio21** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:49 pm

If we were to get Kawhi, I think we'd be right at the cap. Will it help if we were to sign Beverly after using all the cap space , since we have his bird rights ?

esqtvd · Post #953 » by **esqtvd** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 9:56 pm

donemilio21 wrote:If we were to get Kawhi, I think we'd be right at the cap. Will it help if we were to sign Beverly after using all the cap space , since we have his bird rights ?

yes, that's part of the plan/a plan

maybe plan

have to dump Sindarius and Ty to open the max spot, which I'd rather do anyway
poor Sindarius

Galloisdaman · Post #954 » by **Galloisdaman** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:13 pm

Mo is a career 61% from the free throw line?

donemilio21 · Post #955 » by **donemilio21** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:29 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:Mo is a career 61% from the free throw line?

and 32% from the 3 point line. shot 27% last year. maybe he is a good defender that basic stats do not show? I don't know. I never watched him play that I can remember.

donemilio21 · Post #956 » by **donemilio21** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:34 pm

also now we own Miami's 2021 (unprotected) and 2023 1st round picks.

mttwlsn16 · Post #957 » by **mttwlsn16** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:39 pm

donemilio21 wrote:also now we own Miami's 2021 (unprotected) and 2023 1st round picks.

Could we, hypothetically, trade those 2 picks and our 2022 pick? I know you can't trade b2b picks, but if the pick is from another team does that still count?

mttwlsn16 · Post #958 » by **mttwlsn16** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 10:52 pm

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esqtvd · Post #959 » by **esqtvd** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 11:30 pm

mttwlsn16 wrote:
donemilio21 wrote:also now we own Miami's 2021 (unprotected) and 2023 1st round picks.
Could we, hypothetically, trade those 2 picks and our 2022 pick? I know you can't trade b2b picks, but if the pick is from another team does that still count?

You must have a first-round pick, doesn't matter whose.

The Text:

“7.03. First Round Draft Choice. No Member may sell its rights to select a player in the first round of any NBA Draft for cash or its equivalent, or trade or exchange its right to select a player in the first round of any NBA Draft if the result of such trade or exchange may be to leave the Member without first-round picks in any two (2) consecutive future NBA Drafts.”

From there, attention turns to “without first-round picks” which has become one of the more common misconceptions over the years. The Stepien rule contains no distinction between a team’s own first-round picks and any others they may possess at that time.
https://basketball.realgm.com/article/249279/CBA-Encyclopedia-Stepien-Rule

mttwlsn16 · Post #960 » by **mttwlsn16** » Mon Jul 1, 2019 11:44 pm

esqtvd wrote:
mttwlsn16 wrote:
donemilio21 wrote:also now we own Miami's 2021 (unprotected) and 2023 1st round picks.
Could we, hypothetically, trade those 2 picks and our 2022 pick? I know you can't trade b2b picks, but if the pick is from another team does that still count?

You must have a first-round pick, doesn't matter whose.

The Text:

“7.03. First Round Draft Choice. No Member may sell its rights to select a player in the first round of any NBA Draft for cash or its equivalent, or trade or exchange its right to select a player in the first round of any NBA Draft if the result of such trade or exchange may be to leave the Member without first-round picks in any two (2) consecutive future NBA Drafts.”

From there, attention turns to “without first-round picks” which has become one of the more common misconceptions over the years. The Stepien rule contains no distinction between a team’s own first-round picks and any others they may possess at that time.

https://basketball.realgm.com/article/249279/CBA-Encyclopedia-Stepien-Rule

Got it. Thanks

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