Milos Contemplating Leaving Clips to Go Back to Europe

Ranma · Post #1 » by **Ranma** » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:39 pm

Roscoe Sheed · Post #2 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:50 am

I’m sad to hear this news. He seems like a good guy. He should probably play more. He is really the clippers only true point guard besides Sga. Bradley and Beverley play too much. They are solid on d, but very poor on offense this year

donemilio21 · Post #3 » by **donemilio21** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:10 am

We should keep him until the end of the season. While our backcourt is crowded now, a couple of injuries to our guards would put us in a bad spot. Also, Milos is the best playmaker along with Lou on our team. I do not see a downside of keeping him until the end of the season. He is getting paid well now, he can go back to europe next year.

TheNewEra · Post #4 » by **TheNewEra** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:23 am

Doc needs to fix this

Post #5 » by **QRich3** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:32 am

He's probably the best guard on the team other than Lou, but it's just not the right moment for him. Shai needs to get all the minutes even if he's not the player Milos is, as of today, and with the contract given to Bradley, he has to play as well. Bev is not as good a player as Milos overall, but he is a better fit with the team probably. And then you have to find spot minutes for the other 3 youngins.

It's just too bad we couldn't find the perfect situation for him, he's a baller.

Quake Griffin · Post #6 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:15 pm

Big picture, this is small potatoes.

Enjoy yourself in Europe bro.

Post #7 » by **og15** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:34 pm

No trade options?

Galloisdaman · Post #8 » by **Galloisdaman** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:52 pm

Hope he stays because he gives the Clippers a dimension that their other guards lack. Paul George was just talking about how much easier his game is this year because they have play creators. There may come a game where he will give a big 15-20 minute boost.

Post #9 » by **og15** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:52 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:Hope he stays because he gives the Clippers a dimension that their other guards lack. Paul George was just talking about how much easier his game is this year because they have play creators. There may come a game where he will give a big 15-20 minute boost.

I think for the Clippers, the argument becomes that they are 5th in Ortg, even with Bev and Bradley shooting poorly, while the defense is mediocre, do they really need Milos?

Offense seems like it is not a problem outside of little nit-picky things we can look at, so I can understand that.

playaloc916 · Post #10 » by **playaloc916** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:29 pm

They need to figure out the Beverly/Bradley situation. They are getting too many minutes between the two of them, and they aren't having consistent games. One game they'll be defending well and hitting a few shots, next game they contribute next to nothing, while at least Milos can instantly improve the offense with his elite passing and his outside shot, at the expense of his poor defense.

I wouldn't mind giving him more minutes for the next little while and seeing what happens. Doc already isn't using defined minutes, he's just throwing out random combinations praying that it works. Give Milos more minutes and see how it goes. If we become more consistent and his defense isn't too much of a negative, then stick with him. If it doesn't change much, then I guess we leave it and let it play out.

Either way, Brad/verly need their minutes reduced... Robinson isn't even seeing any minutes...

Galloisdaman · Post #11 » by **Galloisdaman** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:50 pm

og15 wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:Hope he stays because he gives the Clippers a dimension that their other guards lack. Paul George was just talking about how much easier his game is this year because they have play creators. There may come a game where he will give a big 15-20 minute boost.

I think for the Clippers, the argument becomes that they are 5th in Ortg, even with Bev and Bradley shooting poorly, while the defense is mediocre, do they really need Milos?

Offense seems like it is not a problem outside of little nit-picky things we can look at, so I can understand that.

That is a good question but its still very early in the season. What if they hit a slump and cant create offense? Does it hurt to keep him for now? I kind of look at him like Boban as a situational player. If the team had a real PG I would reconsider.

esqtvd · Post #12 » by **esqtvd** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:38 pm

playaloc916 wrote:They need to figure out the Beverly/Bradley situation. They are getting too many minutes between the two of them, and they aren't having consistent games. One game they'll be defending well and hitting a few shots, next game they contribute next to nothing, while at least Milos can instantly improve the offense with his elite passing and his outside shot, at the expense of his poor defense.

I wouldn't mind giving him more minutes for the next little while and seeing what happens. Doc already isn't using defined minutes, he's just throwing out random combinations praying that it works. Give Milos more minutes and see how it goes. If we become more consistent and his defense isn't too much of a negative, then stick with him. If it doesn't change much, then I guess we leave it and let it play out.

Either way, Brad/verly need their minutes reduced... Robinson isn't even seeing any minutes...

Well, we've been winning and as OG pointed out, our offensive rating is fine. It's the D that's middling and that's not playing Milos' tune.

Milos is also not the future. Even throwing minutes at Ty or Sindarius has a better chance of a return, as is investing in Avery and Pat Bev finding their old magic after a year away from the game, to keep or to build their trade value.

As for throwing combinations out there, I used to complain that Doc didn't do it nearly enough in the Big Three era. I think it's a great idea, esp in the first half of the season. You just can't tell until you give it some burn. As it turns out, Scott can play the 3 and Trezz can play the 4 at least with Bobi. And we still have to find out who Lou can play with best because Shai is gonna start.

Ranma · Post #13 » by **Ranma** » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:44 pm

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Popovich · Post #14 » by **Popovich** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:27 am

I will try to give broader sort of justifying Miloš comment and try to make his case instead of him, I'l be pretending to be his barrister here and after this post I will consider to even make a YT video clip 4Teo case. Why not, I might be as lazy he is as I'm also not contributing to myself lately. By not working, not at least training physically, or having any job or income in nearly 4 months now.

To do this I'll rewind back in time and remind us on Teo pre NBA days, his at large debated EuroToNBA translation questions , concerns and doubts, his last and his current club season paralleled with his NT captain role in combine.

At first he was not that known player generally before his debut in Serbian national team which he rightfully respect because he feels he got to owe his trajectory to success as NT was slow crossing over starting line, his basketball public promotion.

I'll be honest he was and is one of my favorite players, yet not that high ranked on IMO best players list. Remember my old avatar here, I'll try to find it and get it back to make this case more sustained.

simon24 · Post #15 » by **simon24** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:31 am

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Interesting. Send him to PHX. Probably could get a 2nd.

Popovich · Post #16 » by **Popovich** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:05 am

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Captain Ballmer · Post #17 » by **Captain Ballmer** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:23 am

in 2017 summer;
We have Blake&DJ
We have chip on our shoulder after CP3 trade, we gotta win games.
Teo was the cheapest option to replicate CP3 passing game our constracted team need.

in 2018-19 season;
We have young guards, No Blake&DJ
We hit the rebuilding button, we gotta play rookies.
We wasn't suppose to win a lot of games, So playing time of Teo becomes irrelevant

Teo wasn't the part of the Lob City team, but the guy supposed to bring continuity for Lob City. We no longer Lob City. The situation has changed 180 degree in 15 months and nevertheless we started winning without Teo or needing him at all.

I love the guy but It's about time to move on.

esqtvd · Post #18 » by **esqtvd** » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:49 am

Popovich wrote:I will try to give broader sort of justifying Miloš comment and try to make his case instead of him, I'l be pretending to be his barrister here and after this post I will consider to even make a YT video clip 4Teo case. Why not, I might be as lazy he is as I'm also not contributing to myself lately. By not working, not at least training physically, or having any job or income in nearly 4 months now.

To do this I'll rewind back in time and remind us on Teo pre NBA days, his at large debated EuroToNBA translation questions , concerns and doubts, his last and his current club season paralleled with his NT captain role in combine.

At first he was not that known player generally before his debut in Serbian national team which he rightfully respect because he feels he got to owe his trajectory to success as NT was slow crossing over starting line, his basketball public promotion.

I'll be honest he was and is one of my favorite players, yet not that high ranked on IMO best players list. Remember my old avatar here, I'll try to find it and get it back to make this case more sustained.

Translation: Nobody expects you to play defense in Europe. In Europe, basketball is fun.

In America, you have to play defense or Doc will not play you. America is not fun. It is work. Even the Suns of Phoenix will not trade for me to have fun.

America is a tough town.

stoo · Post #19 » by **stoo** » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:03 am

esqtvd wrote:
Popovich wrote:I will try to give broader sort of justifying Miloš comment and try to make his case instead of him, I'l be pretending to be his barrister here and after this post I will consider to even make a YT video clip 4Teo case. Why not, I might be as lazy he is as I'm also not contributing to myself lately. By not working, not at least training physically, or having any job or income in nearly 4 months now.

To do this I'll rewind back in time and remind us on Teo pre NBA days, his at large debated EuroToNBA translation questions , concerns and doubts, his last and his current club season paralleled with his NT captain role in combine.

At first he was not that known player generally before his debut in Serbian national team which he rightfully respect because he feels he got to owe his trajectory to success as NT was slow crossing over starting line, his basketball public promotion.

I'll be honest he was and is one of my favorite players, yet not that high ranked on IMO best players list. Remember my old avatar here, I'll try to find it and get it back to make this case more sustained.

Translation: Nobody expects you to play defense in Europe. In Europe, basketball is fun.

In America, you have to play defense or Doc will not play you. America is not fun. It is work. Even the Suns of Phoenix will not trade for me to have fun.

America is a tough town.

This actually can't be further from the truth... In Europe basketball is defensively oriented, it's just that players are less athletic so you have to play a team defense... and first to learn to play a team defense.. That is why Europe suits Milos better... You simply are not getting as many miss matches in offense in Europe as in NBA... If there could be an experiment with american players at their prime time, playing under Europian system, many if not most nba teams would average less than 100 points against them..

Also, NBA is business and fun. Europe is competition. There is no once-for-all earned star status so you can shoot 3/15...you are being benched... because if team loses, they are getting relegated, and their place in the league goes to another team next season... That being said, I like basketball to be more fun and offense and that is why I watch NBA more than euro basketball

stoo · Post #20 » by **stoo** » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:10 am

simon24 wrote:

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Interesting. Send him to PHX. Probably could get a 2nd.[/quote]

Considering Clippers have this many guards and don't have place for Milos, they actually might give that trade a try... Even without 2nd rounder... PHX seems to quit on Bender, and if they are after a stop gap PG, I can see them doing this, if they are not after a better deal already