TheNewEra wrote: esqtvd wrote:
Again we went Nuggets went on a 11 to 0 run when Harrell came into the game. Not all his fault but it’s a repeated trend the post season about him being on the floor. Even with Zubac not getting the ball to go in with tips and missing two actual baskets the team was only -5 in his minutes.
Start the 4th quarter the Harrell squad was a -5 until 7:21 of the 4th quarter which like Zubac wouldn’t have been so bad if he didn’t have the 0-11 run during his time in the third. At this point you are minus 16 and we are down.
To recap the 2nd half
Zubac leaves the game up 12 (I’m counting the made free throw he was subbed out for)
Zubac comes back we are up 1 POINT
Harrell comes in we are up 2 points
Zubac comes back in to us being down 3
Green comes in we are down like 8 I think and it’s over
This is the playoffs and possessions matter and minutes matter and there’s a reason clippers twitter is harping on guys being detrimental to momentum and winning
Asked and answered.
Zu was a sterling plus+23 at the half but was minus-12 in the 2nd half--as often happens when he gets into extended minutes. His second 15 minutes are never as good as his first 15, which is why Doc is always casting about for an alternative. And Doc tried to give Trezz a quick hook during the Nugs run and had Zu at the scorer's table, but Joker hit a couple of 3s before the next stoppage of play.
Has Doc guessed wrong? Sure, its easy to say so in hindsight. Would another course of action have been successful? We shall never know. But never think you see anything the rest of us so-called "apologists" don't see.
Minus 12 still has us in the lead lmao
Are we going to act like when he came back in and we were down 3 that the Nuggets weren’t just hot with confidence? The bolded part is exactly the point you keep putting Zubac back in after trying to force some Trez minutes and these become momentum swings for the first team. So Zubac is asked to come in and stop the unnecessary bleeding with defense and running plays to get people open
That quote proved my point exactly. Stop making stupid decisions that hurt the team and put everyone in. Worse situations to fix.
Zubac was a -3 in the 3rd quarter when Trez came in for him. He had missed two short shots and had a turnover.
Here is Zubac's 3rd qtr substitution during the series:
Game 1 - 2:59 left in 3rd LAC 89 - DEN 62
Game 2 - 3:42 left in 3rd LAC 69 - DEN 83
Game 3 - 5:43 left in 3rd LAC 79 - DEN 72
Game 4 - 1:04 left in 3rd LAC 79 - DEN 53
Game 5 - 1:25 left in 3rd LAC 80 - DEN 67
Game 6 - 6:17 left in 3rd LAC 73 - DEN 60
So, in 5 prior games he was never substituted out earlier than 9 minutes into the 3rd when we had a lead. What was the cause of the quick hook? Rather than focus on plus/minus, they need to ask Doc what necessitated removing Zubac earlier than he had all series. We had the lead and he wasn't in foul trouble. So, why then? Half of Jokic's 3rd qtr points at that point came from FTs.
Wonder if playing Harrell with Kawhi messed things up on both ends of the court. I don't know that Kawhi and Harrel have the same chemistry as Kawhi and Zubac.