Re: GAME 7. WC SEMIS SEPT 15, 6PM PST
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:28 pm
God damn this escalated lol
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He's why I went ghost a couple yrs ago and have only come back during playoff time the past 2 yrs, and the Kawhi/PG news last summer.esqtvd wrote:og15 wrote:MartinToVaught wrote:You aren't "discussing" anything. You are shouting down actual fans with the same tired excuses. Go find somewhere else to troll, your shtick has jumped the shark.
Let's move on guys, and let's cut out the policing of who is or is not a fan. We can disagree without making it a personal vendatta.
You let this little creep harass EVERY thread, EVERY post and EVERY poster with his ignorant hateful garbage. And it's going to keep happening. The good people stopped coming around. The failure is YOURS.
Moderation my ass. There's feces in the streets and you blame the decent people for complaining about it. Welcome to 2020.
mttwlsn16 wrote:He's why I went ghost a couple yrs ago and have only come back during playoff time the past 2 yrs, and the Kawhi/PG news last summer.esqtvd wrote:og15 wrote:Let's move on guys, and let's cut out the policing of who is or is not a fan. We can disagree without making it a personal vendatta.
You let this little creep harass EVERY thread, EVERY post and EVERY poster with his ignorant hateful garbage. And it's going to keep happening. The good people stopped coming around. The failure is YOURS.
Moderation my ass. There's feces in the streets and you blame the decent people for complaining about it. Welcome to 2020.
mttwlsn16 wrote:He's why I went ghost a couple yrs ago and have only come back during playoff time the past 2 yrs, and the Kawhi/PG news last summer.esqtvd wrote:og15 wrote:Let's move on guys, and let's cut out the policing of who is or is not a fan. We can disagree without making it a personal vendatta.
You let this little creep harass EVERY thread, EVERY post and EVERY poster with his ignorant hateful garbage. And it's going to keep happening. The good people stopped coming around. The failure is YOURS.
Moderation my ass. There's feces in the streets and you blame the decent people for complaining about it. Welcome to 2020.
esqtvd wrote:mttwlsn16 wrote:He's why I went ghost a couple yrs ago and have only come back during playoff time the past 2 yrs, and the Kawhi/PG news last summer.esqtvd wrote:
You let this little creep harass EVERY thread, EVERY post and EVERY poster with his ignorant hateful garbage. And it's going to keep happening. The good people stopped coming around. The failure is YOURS.
Moderation my ass. There's feces in the streets and you blame the decent people for complaining about it. Welcome to 2020.
Matt--You and a lot of people who actually know something about basketball.
Welcome to all you new people. Until the regulars come back, here are some handy rules to survive while being attacked by the vultures and creeps who have taken over our board for now:--The Clippers shot 25% in the second half in Game 5, Game 6, and Game 7. That's why we lost. But Doc Rivers is to blame for EVERYTHING.
--Except for what Trezz is to blame for, which is also EVERYTHING.
--Never say ANYTHING bad about Ivica Zubac. He could have saved us.
--Even though Doc DOUBLED Zubac's minutes and cut Trezz's IN HALF. Even though Zu scored 7 points in 62 MINUTES in Games 5-6 while we were struggling to score even 40 points in a half.
--Kawhi and Zu are god. Everyone else should be traded or permitted to leave as FAs. Or both.
--We would have won if only we had played our G-Leaguers more.
So to all our new people: Observe these rules, keep your head down, and don't get in their way. Doc bad. Zu good. Tell them whatever they want to hear and hold the fort until the adults come back in a month or two.
We're counting on you.
Love,
Tom
TrueLAfan wrote:First, I want to reiterate what og15 said. If you're trolling, bans will be handed out. And get past the personal sniping; the ignore button is there for a reason.
I appear to be in the minority when I say Doc isn’t totally to blame—but I’ll grant that some of the issues that came up in games 6 and 7 are on the coach. Our team was not ready physically or mentally ready. Kawhi leads by example, not vocally. Apparently, PG was making things worse, not better. You need to stop that as a coach, especially if you’re a players coach. If they aren’t getting it, you need to go public with “these guys need to focus and play hard and they’re not, and it’s going to hurt us in the end.” That’s what happened, and Doc had to have known it. Players may like that he “protects” them, but here his “niceness” messed us up. He’s not solely responsible for the team’s collapse in the second half of the last three games. But we had few players maintain focus for 48 minutes of even one game. And, yeah, that’s a problem.
Our version of load management was also badly (mis)applied. We had players miss time with injuries, and players miss time because … well, we wanted them to be ready in the playoffs. But, like I said in another thread, if you don’t play together, you don’t get into rhythms. You lose cohesion. We had two guys on the roster play 90% of the team’s games. Load management is supposed to allow the team to play less time, but still play lots of games. We didn’t have that—partly because of injuries, but partly because our version of load management kept people out for more games and time than necessary.
And, look, this (weird) season counted on players to do a lot of self-preparation, both individually and among friends. Teammates were supposed to be friends. We looked like unprepared strangers in the last three games. Things that should have been muscle memory and trust by that point were non-existent. We lacked planning and preparation and leadership on the court and bench. All of that took us down.
NickP wrote:esqtvd wrote:mttwlsn16 wrote:He's why I went ghost a couple yrs ago and have only come back during playoff time the past 2 yrs, and the Kawhi/PG news last summer.
Matt--You and a lot of people who actually know something about basketball.
Welcome to all you new people. Until the regulars come back, here are some handy rules to survive while being attacked by the vultures and creeps who have taken over our board for now:--The Clippers shot 25% in the second half in Game 5, Game 6, and Game 7. That's why we lost. But Doc Rivers is to blame for EVERYTHING.
--Except for what Trezz is to blame for, which is also EVERYTHING.
--Never say ANYTHING bad about Ivica Zubac. He could have saved us.
--Even though Doc DOUBLED Zubac's minutes and cut Trezz's IN HALF. Even though Zu scored 7 points in 62 MINUTES in Games 5-6 while we were struggling to score even 40 points in a half.
--Kawhi and Zu are god. Everyone else should be traded or permitted to leave as FAs. Or both.
--We would have won if only we had played our G-Leaguers more.
So to all our new people: Observe these rules, keep your head down, and don't get in their way. Doc bad. Zu good. Tell them whatever they want to hear and hold the fort until the adults come back in a month or two.
We're counting on you.
Love,
Tom
I'm sure the newbies will adhere to every word you said Prof Tom. Your tenure here goes a long way. So what if everything is not as black and white as you make it out to be?
TrueLAfan wrote:First, I want to reiterate what og15 said. If you're trolling, bans will be handed out. And get past the personal sniping; the ignore button is there for a reason.
I appear to be in the minority when I say Doc isn’t totally to blame—but I’ll grant that some of the issues that came up in games 6 and 7 are on the coach. Our team was not ready physically or mentally ready. Kawhi leads by example, not vocally. Apparently, PG was making things worse, not better. You need to stop that as a coach, especially if you’re a players coach. If they aren’t getting it, you need to go public with “these guys need to focus and play hard and they’re not, and it’s going to hurt us in the end.” That’s what happened, and Doc had to have known it. Players may like that he “protects” them, but here his “niceness” messed us up. He’s not solely responsible for the team’s collapse in the second half of the last three games. But we had few players maintain focus for 48 minutes of even one game. And, yeah, that’s a problem.
Our version of load management was also badly (mis)applied. We had players miss time with injuries, and players miss time because … well, we wanted them to be ready in the playoffs. But, like I said in another thread, if you don’t play together, you don’t get into rhythms. You lose cohesion. We had two guys on the roster play 90% of the team’s games. Load management is supposed to allow the team to play less time, but still play lots of games. We didn’t have that—partly because of injuries, but partly because our version of load management kept people out for more games and time than necessary.
And, look, this (weird) season counted on players to do a lot of self-preparation, both individually and among friends. Teammates were supposed to be friends. We looked like unprepared strangers in the last three games. Things that should have been muscle memory and trust by that point were non-existent. We lacked planning and preparation and leadership on the court and bench. All of that took us down.
madmaxmedia wrote:TrueLAfan wrote:First, I want to reiterate what og15 said. If you're trolling, bans will be handed out. And get past the personal sniping; the ignore button is there for a reason.
I appear to be in the minority when I say Doc isn’t totally to blame—but I’ll grant that some of the issues that came up in games 6 and 7 are on the coach. Our team was not ready physically or mentally ready. Kawhi leads by example, not vocally. Apparently, PG was making things worse, not better. You need to stop that as a coach, especially if you’re a players coach. If they aren’t getting it, you need to go public with “these guys need to focus and play hard and they’re not, and it’s going to hurt us in the end.” That’s what happened, and Doc had to have known it. Players may like that he “protects” them, but here his “niceness” messed us up. He’s not solely responsible for the team’s collapse in the second half of the last three games. But we had few players maintain focus for 48 minutes of even one game. And, yeah, that’s a problem.
Our version of load management was also badly (mis)applied. We had players miss time with injuries, and players miss time because … well, we wanted them to be ready in the playoffs. But, like I said in another thread, if you don’t play together, you don’t get into rhythms. You lose cohesion. We had two guys on the roster play 90% of the team’s games. Load management is supposed to allow the team to play less time, but still play lots of games. We didn’t have that—partly because of injuries, but partly because our version of load management kept people out for more games and time than necessary.
And, look, this (weird) season counted on players to do a lot of self-preparation, both individually and among friends. Teammates were supposed to be friends. We looked like unprepared strangers in the last three games. Things that should have been muscle memory and trust by that point were non-existent. We lacked planning and preparation and leadership on the court and bench. All of that took us down.
I would really like to see what happens in an alternative universe where we only sign Kawhi and don't trade for PG. The 2018-2019 Clippers established a team identity and chemistry, and I think it would have been easier to incorporate 1 big new player into that existing team, rather than 2 new players which are expected to score half of your teams points, which made for a very jarring change- especially when BOTH of those new players miss significant time during the season.
We still could have had other issues, and other challenges heading into this offseason. But we do know Gallo had a healthy season and still produced at a high level, and SGA took a step forward. This hypothetical team might even had lost to Denver anyway, but IMO would not have absolutely fallen apart in the 2nd half of the last few games. What is most striking to me about this season was not failing to get out of the second round, but how our team utterly fell apart in those last few games. I don't even think we choked so much as we just really weren't up to the task- by a wide margin. I also think the failure was due to a combination of factors (coaching being a significant one.)
I think our outlook going forward is roughly comparable or perhaps still better now, as I believe we can fix this. But I think we would have had a more successful 2019-2020 if we had only signed Kawhi.
og15 wrote:mttwlsn16 wrote:He's why I went ghost a couple yrs ago and have only come back during playoff time the past 2 yrs, and the Kawhi/PG news last summer.esqtvd wrote:
You let this little creep harass EVERY thread, EVERY post and EVERY poster with his ignorant hateful garbage. And it's going to keep happening. The good people stopped coming around. The failure is YOURS.
Moderation my ass. There's feces in the streets and you blame the decent people for complaining about it. Welcome to 2020.
This is a reminder to everyone to use both the report and ignore features present on the forum if a poster is violating forum rules or if their content is annoying to you, but not in violation of any forum rules. Let's leave it at that.
TheNewEra wrote:og15 wrote:mttwlsn16 wrote:He's why I went ghost a couple yrs ago and have only come back during playoff time the past 2 yrs, and the Kawhi/PG news last summer.
This is a reminder to everyone to use both the report and ignore features present on the forum if a poster is violating forum rules or if their content is annoying to you, but not in violation of any forum rules. Let's leave it at that.
The irony I know for a fact people were wanting him gone as well lol
esqtvd wrote:If we hit 44% of our shots in the second half of Games 5-6-7 instead of 22%, we're in the conference finals.