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MartinToVaught wrote:

RingColluder wrote:

Captain Ballmer wrote:
This is ridiculous take. Where was that energy defensive player against Dallas or Denver series last playoffs? He **** the bed miserably. When you fail on your job that bad, you get fired in corporate world. The FO fired him with not offering contract and that was the most successful decision they had in the summer or winter whatever.

He was dealing with personal issues. You're ridiculous if you don't realize how much Trez would benefit us this year. We have no backup bigman after Zu!!! 9 million a year! that's nothing.

For the millionth time, it wasn't just personal issues. He has limitations both physically and as part of his skillset as a player that prevent him from being very effective in the playoffs. You really need to stop obsessing over a player who doesn't address any of this roster's deficiencies and who's only productive against backups in the regular season.

TheNewEra wrote:Team could really benefit from a strong PG prospect in the next year or so

TucsonClip wrote:

og15 wrote:Don’t care for this move (it’s fine, it fills a need, but seems like it should have been straight up), hopefully Rondo can produce and doesn’t end up on the long list of players Clippers acquired just when they were getting ready to suck.

Not sure why the Clippers gave up picks to take on a longer contract...

Finally, regarding paying two seconds for his contract to be on the books next year. I am not sure he is on the roster next season past the deadline. However, I do think an underrated move was adding his salary in order to aggregate in trades this summer and up to next deadline. Could we have re-signed Lou on a 1 year deal? Possibly. But I dont think anyone is signing and trading for Lou. So Rondo is a salary aggregation piece, especially this summer and during the draft where we have a 1st to move, by the way.

John Hollinger wrote:Remember, Lou Williams had an expiring deal and was unlikely to play along with a sign-and-trade this summer. Additionally, the Clippers would be prevented from executing inbound sign-and-trades because they’ll be above the hard cap.

So how do they get new players? By trading existing contracts and draft equity.

Enter Rondo. His contract lets the Clippers walk into the 2021 draft – one of the few in which the Clippers will actually have their own pick – and start swinging. Along with the pick, Rondo can be traded alone for up to $10.3 million in returning salary, or combined with other minimums (Daniel Oturu or Terance Mann, for example) to bring back a player with a salary in the mid-teens. That acquisition, in turn, could allow the Clippers to restock and make another run next year. (All this obviously assumes Kawhi Leonard re-signs).

Yes, Rondo’s cap number also crushes their chances of using the full mid-level exception, because the Clippers are now over next year’s hard cap line, but that was going to be the case anyway if Serge Ibaka returns. (Ibaka has a player option for $9.7 million, but could also re-up for as much as $11.7 million as a non-Bird free agent).

RingColluder wrote:From Frank in an interview after the deadline:

"WE SAW LUKE, JUST HIS ABILITY TO DO SOME SECONDARY PLAYMAKING"

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The man has lost his mind. He said the same thing pre season,

There's not even a 1% skill leave of Kennard as a playmaker whatsoever and the reason why we are still struggling with PG (till the Rondo trade).

Inconsistent shooter which is fine, but the contract continues to be a problem.

Roscoe Sheed wrote:

RingColluder wrote:From Frank in an interview after the deadline:

"WE SAW LUKE, JUST HIS ABILITY TO DO SOME SECONDARY PLAYMAKING"

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The man has lost his mind. He said the same thing pre season,

There's not even a 1% skill leave of Kennard as a playmaker whatsoever and the reason why we are still struggling with PG (till the Rondo trade).

Inconsistent shooter which is fine, but the contract continues to be a problem.

I can understand the skepticism about his playmaking, but he is not an inconsistent shooter. Sure, he won't make everything shot he takes, but he is an elite shooter. If the Heat can manage to find 30 minutes a game for Duncan Robinson, the Clippers can find minutes for Kennard- I think he is as good of a shooter as Robinson and only a slightly worse defender.

RingColluder wrote:

Roscoe Sheed wrote:

RingColluder wrote:From Frank in an interview after the deadline:

"WE SAW LUKE, JUST HIS ABILITY TO DO SOME SECONDARY PLAYMAKING"

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The man has lost his mind. He said the same thing pre season,

There's not even a 1% skill leave of Kennard as a playmaker whatsoever and the reason why we are still struggling with PG (till the Rondo trade).

Inconsistent shooter which is fine, but the contract continues to be a problem.

I can understand the skepticism about his playmaking, but he is not an inconsistent shooter. Sure, he won't make everything shot he takes, but he is an elite shooter. If the Heat can manage to find 30 minutes a game for Duncan Robinson, the Clippers can find minutes for Kennard- I think he is as good of a shooter as Robinson and only a slightly worse defender.

It's been 2 games, I need to see more. But he definitely has a nice ceiling, Im just concerned with the floor particularly in the playoffs.


He looked awful in the beginning of the season particularly when he's not looking to score

esqtvd wrote:

RingColluder wrote:

Roscoe Sheed wrote:I can understand the skepticism about his playmaking, but he is not an inconsistent shooter. Sure, he won't make everything shot he takes, but he is an elite shooter. If the Heat can manage to find 30 minutes a game for Duncan Robinson, the Clippers can find minutes for Kennard- I think he is as good of a shooter as Robinson and only a slightly worse defender.

It's been 2 games, I need to see more. But he definitely has a nice ceiling, Im just concerned with the floor particularly in the playoffs.


He looked awful in the beginning of the season particularly when he's not looking to score

Shamet looked like a lock there for awhile too. Nobody's game planning for Mann or Kennard yet, so there's a long road ahead for each of them still. Right now they're slipping through the cracks.

Roscoe Sheed wrote:What I meant was Kennard is definitely a knock down shooter- he may have other flaws but perimeter shooting isn’t one

esqtvd wrote:soon

og15 wrote:

Roscoe Sheed wrote:What I meant was Kennard is definitely a knock down shooter- he may have other flaws but perimeter shooting isn’t one

For sure, Luke shoots 47% from 3PT, which is 4th in the NBA and hits 40% or higher 61% of his games where he's attempted a three as a Clipper. That's only "inconsistent" (in the most loose sense of the word) if we're comparing him to Joe Harris who is 3rd in the league at 48.5% and hits 40% or higher 67% of the time.

Of course that's a bit of an illiogical take in that case as calling a player who is in the 95th percentile of consistency inconsistent would require a new word for other players who are actually inconsistent.

Luke's playmaking just hasn't come through on this squad though. We've gotten some flashes here and there, but nothing consistent in that aspect with him still looking unsure about attacking vs not, etc.

esqtvd wrote:

og15 wrote:

Roscoe Sheed wrote:What I meant was Kennard is definitely a knock down shooter- he may have other flaws but perimeter shooting isn’t one

For sure, Luke shoots 47% from 3PT, which is 4th in the NBA and hits 40% or higher 61% of his games where he's attempted a three as a Clipper. That's only "inconsistent" (in the most loose sense of the word) if we're comparing him to Joe Harris who is 3rd in the league at 48.5% and hits 40% or higher 67% of the time.

Of course that's a bit of an illiogical take in that case as calling a player who is in the 95th percentile of consistency inconsistent would require a new word for other players who are actually inconsistent.

Luke's playmaking just hasn't come through on this squad though. We've gotten some flashes here and there, but nothing consistent in that aspect with him still looking unsure about attacking vs not, etc.

Yes. Percentages mean little or nothing. An offensive player who doesn't add much else who needs to be spoonfed his shots BETTER hit his freebies.

Bev brings manic D, amazing rebounds, some assists and still hits his freebies at 40%. Let's not take him for granted.