Ty Lue: "Lou Will, Pat Bev & PG13 stepping up as leaders"

BenchOnaQUEST · Post #1 » by **BenchOnaQUEST** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:13 pm

"One of the biggest things the Clippers needed in order to be successful was improved play from Paul George. Not just improved play from George, but better leadership from the team as a whole.

This morning during shootaround, head coach Ty Lue told the media that Lou Williams, Patrick Beverley, and Paul George are stepping up and taking ownership. He gave a little shout out to Serge Ibaka as well, stating "he's been a voice."

The Clippers need as much of this as possible. They had all the talent to win an NBA Championship last season, and they still have all the talent to win an NBA Championship this season. The one thing they were missing last season was the proper leadership and adjustments when things went south. By creating more leaders, the Clippers hope to fix that problem."

Read More/Source: https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/ty-lue-says-more-clippers-are-stepping-up-as-leaders

BenchOnaQUEST · Post #2 » by **BenchOnaQUEST** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:01 pm

Also a good read:
Clippers take time to bond during impromptu team meeting

Approaching nearly 160 pages, the NBA’s health and safety protocols were designed to address nearly every scenario possible. They even cover that annual preseason tradition, the team dinner, which was prohibited by the protocols until after Dec. 11.

Those restrictions, along with others set by the county that have limited restaurants to take-out only, meant that despite coach Tyronn Lue’s wishes during training camp last week, the Clippers could not gather at a Beverly Hills steakhouse and introduce themselves around a long table, as they did two seasons ago. Lue might get that dinner one day, but in its place his coaches and players instead met during last week’s lead-up to their first preseason game on the court inside the practice facility, spread apart at an appropriate distance.

“We just kind of asked each other some simple questions, just favorite musical artists and stuff like that,” guard Luke Kennard said. “There were a few interesting answers, that’s for sure. One of our coaches, his favorite rappers was Lil Baby... It was a really cool thing. Never done anything like that before. But yeah, it was cool to sit down and talk face to face with a few guys and get to know them a little bit.”

Though the core of a roster that lost a 3-1 lead in the second round of the postseason remains the same, there are six new players, Kennard included, and a coaching staff that is almost entirely new. COVID-19 restrictions had limited the group’s interaction before the start of training camp only days earlier. Introductions, then, were necessary.

“It was fun, actually,” Lue said. “Didn’t know how it would go, but I know all the guys liked it, I liked it, the coaching staff, they loved it as well. It was nice little thing we had.”

When he coached in Cleveland, Lue liked to cancel practice and load players onto buses for a bonding exercise. If the coronavirus forced him to change old methods, his intent of the exercise remained the same, hoping the group would learn “things you don’t know about each other that you would find interesting."
https://sports.yahoo.com/clippers-time-bond-during-impromptu-005937558.html

esqtvd · Post #3 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:00 pm

one name is conspicuous by its absence ;-D

Clemenza · Post #4 » by **Clemenza** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:26 pm

No mention of Kawhi I see. Hopefully he kicks ass on the court

KL2 · Post #5 » by **KL2** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:29 am

I thought guys didn’t respect George as a leader? Wonder what changed.

Max Headrom · Post #6 » by **Max Headrom** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:45 am

KL2 wrote:I thought guys didn’t respect George as a leader? Wonder what changed.

A player being being full of themselves and a coach who coddled him are gone is what's changed...

MartinToVaught · Post #7 » by **MartinToVaught** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:01 am

esqtvd wrote:one name is conspicuous by its absence ;-D

Sorry to disappoint:

Read on Twitter

KL2 · Post #8 » by **KL2** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:27 am

I know Leonard said he wasn’t going to change his approach to leadership but you can see his effort to be more involved. He’s talking to the young guys, in timeouts, on the bench, etc...

TheNewEra · Post #9 » by **TheNewEra** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:07 pm

Off to a good start

MarxyLebronist · Post #10 » by **MarxyLebronist** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:23 pm

lol Doc Rivers stays losing.

esqtvd · Post #11 » by **esqtvd** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:05 am

MartinToVaught wrote:
esqtvd wrote:one name is conspicuous by its absence ;-D

Sorry to disappoint:

Read on Twitter

You haven't been listening. Nothing would please me more. This is KAWHI'S f****** team and I want him to OWN it.

And you were vulturing on Ty before the season was 10 minutes old

MartinToVaught wrote:This looks exactly like a Doc-"coached" game. Big early lead, the worst player on the team checks in to ruin momentum, the offense gets jump shot heavy and stops scoring, and it all spirals downhill from there. No system on offense, just chucking threes and hoping Kawhi or PG or Lou bails us out.

As I said all offseason, promoting one of Doc's assistants was a terrible idea. The true culture change we needed would have only come from outside the organization. So far, I haven't seen anything to make me change that opinion.

so

esqtvd · Post #12 » by **esqtvd** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:00 am

Max Headrom wrote:
KL2 wrote:I thought guys didn’t respect George as a leader? Wonder what changed.

A player being being full of themselves and a coach who coddled him are gone is what's changed...

Of course the irony is that Doc just walked into Philly with the same situation, only worse. The Sixers were even more dysfunctional than the Clippers on every level--chemistry, maturity, basketball IQ. And as much as I rake KL and PG for their historic choke, Simmons and Embiid don't even move my Ballers vs Playas meter.

Max, nobody walked out of Clippers 2019-20 without the taste of ashes and without learning something. Doc won't coach the Sixers like he coached the Clippers, PG has to get out of his own head, and Kawhi just can't keep his own schedule and have his own private dressing room and swoop in like the White Knight and get all the glory.

Yes, Doc was too lax but no way Vogel cracked the whip on the Lakers either. And remember, Ty was offered the Laker job first. I think any of the three could have coached the LeBrons to the title, and frankly I don't think any of the three could have coached the Clippers to it.

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As for "a player being being full of themselves," if that's Trez, let's watch what he does with LeBron as his leader and AD as his teammate. After working himself up from 2nd-rounder to 6MOY on desire and effort alone, Trez still didn't get his big money. But let's see what he does with Bron's leadership and respect. My guess is that instead of lifting him up during the playoff collapse, KL and PG looked down their nose at him and gave him the blame.

And when it was all over, so did the organization. Trez is still hungry.

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BTW Is that a zither? An Autoharp? Is that you If not who...

NickP · Post #13 » by **NickP** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:54 pm

It's delusional for anyone to still think that Doc is going to "coach". One game in and it was easy to tell that Lou actually has a plan. Doc had a plan too and that was give the ball to ____ and see what happens. Doc would have found ways to F it up even with Lebron.
Trez hungry? Lol. No matter how hungry Trez is. Unless the guy can play defense he'll see his ass grounded when the game's on the line.
And stop reading too much into this Lakers beat writer nonsense about Kawhi special treatment. Trez had an issue with PG. Not Kawhi.

TheNewEra · Post #14 » by **TheNewEra** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:37 pm

Beverly has to control his quick fouls on unnecessary plays

nickhx2 · Post #15 » by **nickhx2** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:45 pm

i mean if he were gonna be better at it this time around he probably wouldn't have gotten into foul trouble in the first game of the year, so i don't have a lot of hope for him lol

but hey at least the good news is we have legit subs in kennard/batum, and a coach who believes in adjustments and flexible lineups. so if beverley gets into foul trouble, we now have the fortune of NOT having to see doc snap substitute reggie jackson in for 8-10 2nd quarter minutes.

NickP · Post #16 » by **NickP** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:02 pm

nickhx2 wrote:i mean if he were gonna be better at it this time around he probably wouldn't have gotten into foul trouble in the first game of the year, so i don't have a lot of hope for him lol

but hey at least the good news is we have legit subs in kennard/batum, and a coach who believes in adjustments and flexible lineups. so if beverley gets into foul trouble, we now have the fortune of NOT having to see doc snap substitute reggie jackson in for 8-10 2nd quarter minutes.

Exactly. By pulling Reggie out in 3 minutes told me Doc's not coaching this team anymore.

esqtvd · Post #17 » by **esqtvd** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:17 am

NickP wrote:Trez hungry? Lol. No matter how hungry Trez is. Unless the guy can play defense he'll see his ass grounded when the game's on the line.
And stop reading too much into this Lakers beat writer nonsense about Kawhi special treatment. Trez had an issue with PG. Not Kawhi.

Yes, damn right Trez had an issue with PG. And yes Kawhi DID get special treatment with his own PRIVATE dressing room. Driving the female staffers out. That was F**KED UP.

No way they're doing that s**t this year. NO WAY. So let's put that sh*t to bed. This year Kawhi dresses next to everybody else. Yes?

Clear that up first ok?

esqtvd · Post #18 » by **esqtvd** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:22 am

TheNewEra wrote:Beverly has to control his quick fouls on unnecessary plays

yah, it's ego
and defensiveness

he's a good $7M player but he's paid twice that so he overtries