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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#81 » by RingColluder » Fri May 14, 2021 1:53 am

Until the game got out of hand PG was 5-15 with 4 assists and 3 TO's as is his usual standard. Ended the game 7-19, 5-13 from 3 BUT only 20 pts and 1-3 from the line.


It's just so egotistical, selfish, and narcissistic I don't know why people are letting this slide. YOU ARE NOT KOBE. YOU ARE NOT HARDEN. YOU ARE NOT IRVING. He should not be taking this many shots when we have proven scorers in Kawhi and Morris only take 8 and 9 shots each (for 15-16 shots). How does Kawhi get to the line more AND Morris have only 1 less FT given PG's ball usage?

Seriously troubling stuff. Don't say I didn't warn you..
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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#82 » by RingColluder » Tue May 18, 2021 10:48 pm

A recap of Paul George's last playoff series against the Mavs:

Game 1: 10-22 27 pts (this is the minimum he needs to play at for us to do well in the playoffs)
Game 2: 4-17, 14 pts (typical PG)
Game 3: 3-16, 11 pts,
Game 4: 3-14, 9 pts
Game 5: 12-18, 35 pts
Game 6: 6-19, 15 pts

3 horrifically disastrous games, 1 great game, and 1 average game.

That won't cut it this series.
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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#83 » by RingColluder » Fri May 21, 2021 1:38 am

LA Clippers' Paul George says 'big difference' in his mental health now vs. in bubble

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31479617/la-clippers-paul-george-says-big-difference-mental-health-now-vs-bubble

"Well I think this year it's been easier because I have outlets," George said. "You know, I'm able to live a normal life. I can go home, I can see my family, I can spend time with my family, I can interact with other people outside of this team. And so that alone has just been a big difference to be back to some normalcy.

"It's a big difference from the bubble life to where I'm at now from a headspace standpoint."

George went through a shooting slump in the first round last season when he made 34.6% from the field and only 27% from behind the arc against Dallas. In Games 2, 3 and 4, George shot 10-for-47 combined, including 4-for-25 from 3-point range."

Let's hope so. He will make us or break us this playoffs.
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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#84 » by esqtvd » Fri May 21, 2021 1:35 pm

Exactly. Doc Rivers took the fall for PG's suckitude. Now the #1 seed in the East with a garbage roster outside of Embiid who missed 1/4 of the season.

And PG was rewarded with a max contract. Because PG sucked total balls because Doc played Trezz 18 minutes per game in the playoffs.

Glad that's settled once and for all. Now move ON. :wink:
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Post#85 » by RingColluder » Fri May 21, 2021 5:39 pm

esqtvd wrote:Exactly. Doc Rivers took the fall for PG's suckitude. Now the #1 seed in the East with a garbage roster outside of Embiid who missed 1/4 of the season.

And PG was rewarded with a max contract. Because PG sucked total balls because Doc played Trezz 18 minutes per game in the playoffs.

Glad that's settled once and for all. Now move ON. :wink:


I wouldn't't say "rewarded". More like the front office scrambled to do something so they wouldn't be stuck with the possibility that both of them left after next year. PG was happy to take a deal he obviously hasn't proven to be worth yet, while Kawhi is still on the fence.

We've already seen the past history of the Clippers with the Blake contract, so hopefully if things don't work out we can take that contract off easily, but I have doubts. :wink:
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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#86 » by RingColluder » Sat May 22, 2021 11:38 pm

- 3 air balls to start the game
- 1-7 in the 1st half. Awful shot IQ throughout the game including a low IQ 3pt brick with 2 minutes to go.
- Not one made perimeter shot till mid (?) 3rd quarters.

This is classic "Playoff" Paul George and he NEEDS to play better if we are to have any chance at winning this series particularly in the 3rd. It's a different story if we're up by 15 heading into the 4th and he isn' playing well vs. he is the REASON our offense can't get going in the 1st half and we spend all game playing catch up.

At least his ball handling looked better than usual this game. But a VERY CONCERNING GAME. COME ON PAUL. WAKE UP!!!
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Post#87 » by RingColluder » Mon May 31, 2021 7:56 am

so far *knock on wood* surprisingly Playoff P has been playing relatively up to his role finally.

Yes, he's been inconsistent defensively consistently and continues to take low IQ shots from time to time ("aka I'm doing it myself Paul"), but he's had a lot of positives that rarely if ever he did during the RS.

I don't think he ever had a game where he drove to the rim and finished that smoothly more than 2-3 times a game and he's done that in the playoffs. Looking to draw contact is also a major plus, and his ball usage/"playmaking' has been tremendously less focused on in the playoffs.

Where was this guy all season?? Good to see, but we are only in round 1 (let alone 3 more important games to go) and there's plenty of time for him to revert to his usual ways.

Lucky for him he has Kawhi Leonard to carry him and Terrence Mann helping as well. Let's continue to play this way Playoff P! Don't settle for that awful jumper of yours from a deep contested 2 spot!
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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#88 » by RingColluder » Mon Jun 7, 2021 5:16 am

6-16, 7-15, 6-15, and now 5-15

Awful low IQ fouls AND as usual boneheaded TO's that get ridiculed globally.

We are lucky Tmann, Kennard, Morris and Reggie have saved our season because this is NOT a max player in the slightest.


Just take a look around at an objective site and see for yourself to his series.

I don't give any hope he'll step it up but maybe I will be wrong about something for once in this entire season.
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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#89 » by mttwlsn16 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 5:59 am

He also had 6 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 steals and made 10/10 FTs, but let's leave the good things he did out of the convo and only focus on his poor shooting game.

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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#90 » by RingColluder » Mon Jun 7, 2021 6:10 am

mttwlsn16 wrote:He also had 6 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 steals and made 10/10 FTs, but let's leave the good things he did out of the convo and only focus on his poor shooting game.

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Are you forgetting the amount of boneheaded turnovers he makes every game? The low IQ fouls and passes? You forgot about those.


You can't be making max money and playing like you're paid Luke Kennard/Marcus Morris money. He's lucky Kawhi saved his ass this series since the slander on his name has not gone away for a second in the mainstream/outside this board.


If he stood in a corner, shot spot up 3's, rebounded, and NOT BE USED AS A POINT GUARD he would be fine on a contract of about 14-15 million or so.
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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#91 » by RingColluder » Mon Jun 7, 2021 6:18 am

Game 1: 44% FG, 23 pts 4 TO's 5 assists, 1 steal (AWFUL)
Game 2: 54% FG 28 pts 4 TO's, 6 assists, 1 steal (nice offensive guy, still very bad playmaking.. but overall a success GOOD)
Game 3: 61% FG 29 pts, 4 TO's 4 assists, 1 steal (another awful playmaking game, but again his scoring made up for it especially % wise, nice GOOD)
Game 4: 37.5% FG 20 pts, 3 TO's 3 assists, 0 steals, (AWFUL, inexcusable
Game 5: 46% FG 23 pts 4 assists 6 assists, 0 steals (MEDIOCRE)
Game 6: 40% FG 20 pts 2 TOs 6 assists, 0 steals, (AWFUL)
Game 7: 33 FG%, 22 pts 4 TO's 10 assists, 3 steals (BAD, would have been AWFUL without 10 assists)

So overall: 2 good games, 1 mediocre game, 1 bad game and 3 awful games.

Given how he played last playoffs, that's progress but still just not even close to his contract or role on a supposed contending team.

If we are going to win a ring, these scoring numbers will not cut it.

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For reference here is how Kawhi's series ranked in comparison, another max guy and "superstar":

Game 1: 40 FG%, 26 pts, 5 assists 0 TO's, 4 steals, (GOOD)
Game 2: 66.7 FG% 41 pts, 4 assists, 2 steals, 2 TO's (INCREDIBLE)
Game 3: 76% FG, 36 pts 8 assists, 3 assists, 2 TO's, 2 blocks, 1 steal (INCREDIBLE)
Game 4: 73% FG, 29 pts, 10 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals, 4 TO's (INCREDIBLE)
Game 5: 36.8 FG%, 20 pts, 5 assists, 2 TO's, (AWFUL)
Game 6: 72% FG, 45 pts, 6 assists, 2 steals, 4 TO (INCREDBILE)
Game 7: 66.7% FG, 28 pts, 10 rebounds, 9 assists, 4 steals, 0 TO's (INCREDIBLE)

1 awful game, 1 good game, 5 incredible games.

There's a superstar.

How does Kawhi have 9 assists, 0 TO's and yet PG averages at least 4 whenever he gets at least 5 assist or more? HOW?
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Post#92 » by clipperlover » Mon Jun 7, 2021 6:49 am

RingColluder wrote:6-16, 7-15, 6-15, and now 5-15

Awful low IQ fouls AND as usual boneheaded TO's that get ridiculed globally.

We are lucky Tmann, Kennard, Morris and Reggie have saved our season because this is NOT a max player in the slightest.


Just take a look around at an objective site and see for yourself to his series.

I don't give any hope he'll step it up but maybe I will be wrong about something for once in this entire season.


I truly have to give it up to you for consistency.

1st Qtr
Nicolas Batum makes two point shot (Paul George assists)
Kawhi Leonard makes 26-foot three point jumper (Paul George assists)
Nicolas Batum makes three point jumper (Paul George assists)
Terance Mann makes 26-foot three point jumper (Paul George assists)

2nd Qtr
Luke Kennard makes 23-foot three point jumper (Paul George assists)
Reggie Jackson makes 30-foot three point jumper (Paul George assists)

3rd Qtr
Nicolas Batum makes layup (Paul George assists)
Marcus Morris Sr. makes 25-foot three point jumper (Paul George assists)
Kawhi Leonard makes 2-foot driving dunk (Paul George assists)

4th Qtr
Luke Kennard makes driving layup (Paul George assists)

Seems like that is 10 assists to 6 different players totaling 26 pts. So, that looks like 46 pts PG was directly involved in. Not the 77 Luka was involved in, but still looks like a good number.

For the series: 23.6 pts, 9 rbs (team leader), 5.7 asts (team leader), .86 stls/gm, .86 blks/gm. 3.14 TOVs (5 more than Kawhi for the series)

Looking around at any objective site tells me that collectively those numbers are better than any other #2 from any other Western Conference playoff team.

Can his shooting improve? Absolutely. Can the hyperbole about his contributions? Apparently not.
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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#93 » by clipperlover » Mon Jun 7, 2021 7:05 am

RingColluder wrote:Game 1: 44% FG, 23 pts 4 TO's 5 assists, 1 steal (AWFUL)
Game 2: 54% FG 28 pts 4 TO's, 6 assists, 1 steal (nice offensive guy, still very bad playmaking.. but overall a success GOOD)
Game 3: 61% FG 29 pts, 4 TO's 4 assists, 1 steal (another awful playmaking game, but again his scoring made up for it especially % wise, nice GOOD)
Game 4: 37.5% FG 20 pts, 3 TO's 3 assists, 0 steals, (AWFUL, inexcusable
Game 5: 46% FG 23 pts 4 assists 6 assists, 0 steals (MEDIOCRE)
Game 6: 40% FG 20 pts 2 TOs 6 assists, 0 steals, (AWFUL)
Game 7: 33 FG%, 22 pts 4 TO's 10 assists, 3 steals (BAD, would have been AWFUL without 10 assists)

So overall: 2 good games, 1 mediocre game, 1 bad game and 3 awful games.

Given how he played last playoffs, that's progress but still just not even close to his contract or role on a supposed contending team.

If we are going to win a ring, these scoring numbers will not cut it.

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For reference here is how Kawhi's series ranked in comparison, another max guy and "superstar":

Game 1: 40 FG%, 26 pts, 5 assists 0 TO's, 4 steals, (GOOD)
Game 2: 66.7 FG% 41 pts, 4 assists, 2 steals, 2 TO's (INCREDIBLE)
Game 3: 76% FG, 36 pts 8 assists, 3 assists, 2 TO's, 2 blocks, 1 steal (INCREDIBLE)
Game 4: 73% FG, 29 pts, 10 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals, 4 TO's (INCREDIBLE)
Game 5: 36.8 FG%, 20 pts, 5 assists, 2 TO's, (AWFUL)
Game 6: 72% FG, 45 pts, 6 assists, 2 steals, 4 TO (INCREDBILE)
Game 7: 66.7% FG, 28 pts, 10 rebounds, 9 assists, 4 steals, 0 TO's (INCREDIBLE)

1 awful game, 1 good game, 5 incredible games.

There's a superstar.

How does Kawhi have 9 assists, 0 TO's and yet PG averages at least 4 whenever he gets at least 5 assist or more? HOW?



Any particular reason you highlighted rebounds for 1 game (Kawhi)? Is it the same reason only blocks were listed for some of Kawhi's games? Was there a glitch at the site you pulled the stats from?
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Post#94 » by TheNewEra » Mon Jun 7, 2021 3:03 pm

Still waiting for the insane shooting game for PG13
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Post#95 » by NickP » Mon Jun 7, 2021 5:22 pm

clipperlover wrote:
RingColluder wrote:Game 1: 44% FG, 23 pts 4 TO's 5 assists, 1 steal (AWFUL)
Game 2: 54% FG 28 pts 4 TO's, 6 assists, 1 steal (nice offensive guy, still very bad playmaking.. but overall a success GOOD)
Game 3: 61% FG 29 pts, 4 TO's 4 assists, 1 steal (another awful playmaking game, but again his scoring made up for it especially % wise, nice GOOD)
Game 4: 37.5% FG 20 pts, 3 TO's 3 assists, 0 steals, (AWFUL, inexcusable
Game 5: 46% FG 23 pts 4 assists 6 assists, 0 steals (MEDIOCRE)
Game 6: 40% FG 20 pts 2 TOs 6 assists, 0 steals, (AWFUL)
Game 7: 33 FG%, 22 pts 4 TO's 10 assists, 3 steals (BAD, would have been AWFUL without 10 assists)

So overall: 2 good games, 1 mediocre game, 1 bad game and 3 awful games.

Given how he played last playoffs, that's progress but still just not even close to his contract or role on a supposed contending team.

If we are going to win a ring, these scoring numbers will not cut it.

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For reference here is how Kawhi's series ranked in comparison, another max guy and "superstar":

Game 1: 40 FG%, 26 pts, 5 assists 0 TO's, 4 steals, (GOOD)
Game 2: 66.7 FG% 41 pts, 4 assists, 2 steals, 2 TO's (INCREDIBLE)
Game 3: 76% FG, 36 pts 8 assists, 3 assists, 2 TO's, 2 blocks, 1 steal (INCREDIBLE)
Game 4: 73% FG, 29 pts, 10 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals, 4 TO's (INCREDIBLE)
Game 5: 36.8 FG%, 20 pts, 5 assists, 2 TO's, (AWFUL)
Game 6: 72% FG, 45 pts, 6 assists, 2 steals, 4 TO (INCREDBILE)
Game 7: 66.7% FG, 28 pts, 10 rebounds, 9 assists, 4 steals, 0 TO's (INCREDIBLE)

1 awful game, 1 good game, 5 incredible games.

There's a superstar.

How does Kawhi have 9 assists, 0 TO's and yet PG averages at least 4 whenever he gets at least 5 assist or more? HOW?



Any particular reason you highlighted rebounds for 1 game (Kawhi)? Is it the same reason only blocks were listed for some of Kawhi's games? Was there a glitch at the site you pulled the stats from?

LMAO @ glitch at site!
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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#96 » by mttwlsn16 » Mon Jun 7, 2021 10:43 pm

clipperlover wrote:
RingColluder wrote:Game 1: 44% FG, 23 pts 4 TO's 5 assists, 1 steal (AWFUL)
Game 2: 54% FG 28 pts 4 TO's, 6 assists, 1 steal (nice offensive guy, still very bad playmaking.. but overall a success GOOD)
Game 3: 61% FG 29 pts, 4 TO's 4 assists, 1 steal (another awful playmaking game, but again his scoring made up for it especially % wise, nice GOOD)
Game 4: 37.5% FG 20 pts, 3 TO's 3 assists, 0 steals, (AWFUL, inexcusable
Game 5: 46% FG 23 pts 4 assists 6 assists, 0 steals (MEDIOCRE)
Game 6: 40% FG 20 pts 2 TOs 6 assists, 0 steals, (AWFUL)
Game 7: 33 FG%, 22 pts 4 TO's 10 assists, 3 steals (BAD, would have been AWFUL without 10 assists)

So overall: 2 good games, 1 mediocre game, 1 bad game and 3 awful games.

Given how he played last playoffs, that's progress but still just not even close to his contract or role on a supposed contending team.

If we are going to win a ring, these scoring numbers will not cut it.

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For reference here is how Kawhi's series ranked in comparison, another max guy and "superstar":

Game 1: 40 FG%, 26 pts, 5 assists 0 TO's, 4 steals, (GOOD)
Game 2: 66.7 FG% 41 pts, 4 assists, 2 steals, 2 TO's (INCREDIBLE)
Game 3: 76% FG, 36 pts 8 assists, 3 assists, 2 TO's, 2 blocks, 1 steal (INCREDIBLE)
Game 4: 73% FG, 29 pts, 10 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals, 4 TO's (INCREDIBLE)
Game 5: 36.8 FG%, 20 pts, 5 assists, 2 TO's, (AWFUL)
Game 6: 72% FG, 45 pts, 6 assists, 2 steals, 4 TO (INCREDBILE)
Game 7: 66.7% FG, 28 pts, 10 rebounds, 9 assists, 4 steals, 0 TO's (INCREDIBLE)

1 awful game, 1 good game, 5 incredible games.

There's a superstar.

How does Kawhi have 9 assists, 0 TO's and yet PG averages at least 4 whenever he gets at least 5 assist or more? HOW?



Any particular reason you highlighted rebounds for 1 game (Kawhi)? Is it the same reason only blocks were listed for some of Kawhi's games? Was there a glitch at the site you pulled the stats from?


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Re: Playoff Paul George Mega-thread 

Post#97 » by MartinToVaught » Wed Jun 9, 2021 6:32 pm

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We would have won last night's game by double digits with Shai and Gallo, no doubt in my mind.
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Post#98 » by NickP » Wed Jun 9, 2021 6:53 pm

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We would have won last night's game by double digits with Shai and Gallo, no doubt in my mind.

Gallo epitomizes inconsistency in the playoffs. At least PG can play defense, rebound and assist.
I do however agree that PG needs to break out of his shooting slump and find ways to score. I don't understand why the guy simply refuses to attack the rim instead of settling for 3s.
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Post#99 » by madmaxmedia » Wed Jun 9, 2021 7:46 pm

He was able to get to the line a few times and hit his free throws. I agree he should always be aggressive and try to get to the hoop, but he's only decent at it and lacks the great body control other (mostly shorter) wing players have.

The big problem is his way-streaky jump shooting. If he only was more consistent there, he could make decent/good games happen by staying aggressive at both ends, hit a couple of 3's and generally alway get at least 20 points to go along with whatever else he is able to contribute.

I'm not sure the reason for his inconsistent shot, makes me wonder if there's some inadvertent hitch or some other thing he needs to fix as there are times his jumper is on. He seemed relatively fine in terms of mindset last night, he was still active in other areas. But man that shot...
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Post#100 » by og15 » Wed Jun 9, 2021 7:58 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
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We would have won last night's game by double digits with Shai and Gallo, no doubt in my mind.

Don't add Gallo at all, Gallo is not a good playoff performer, career 38/33 and 51 TS%. He does not produce well in the post-season, his shooting struggles a good amount, doesn't get to the line as much. I love Shai, but he's not immune to bad games, we could have won last game with him, we could have lost vs Mavs with him.

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