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playaloc916 wrote:Looks like Morris should be called Pandemic Mook now... For these playoffs, he's shooting 38%/35%. Last year he shot 51%/48%.

Kawhi and PG seem to be alternating good scoring games. Most of the time, they can't seem to both have good shooting games at the same time.

I think Reggie might be the most consistent player so far in these playoffs. Normally, I'd be pleasantly surprised, but instead, I'm actually disappointed. Disappointed in the sense that he would have been the "x-factor", but our stars can't seem to score as consistently as the opposing team's star(s), and Mook is a complete no-show (if we exclude Game 7, I'd be scared to see his numbers).

clipperlover wrote:

playaloc916 wrote:Looks like Morris should be called Pandemic Mook now... For these playoffs, he's shooting 38%/35%. Last year he shot 51%/48%.

Kawhi and PG seem to be alternating good scoring games. Most of the time, they can't seem to both have good shooting games at the same time.

I think Reggie might be the most consistent player so far in these playoffs. Normally, I'd be pleasantly surprised, but instead, I'm actually disappointed. Disappointed in the sense that he would have been the "x-factor", but our stars can't seem to score as consistently as the opposing team's star(s), and Mook is a complete no-show (if we exclude Game 7, I'd be scared to see his numbers).

Because Kawhi and PG are two way players and the Clips have the PG playmaker, Kawhi and PG have to shoulder more load on both sides of the floor. There is only so much energy you can use and still be effective. It is asking a lot of them to lead the team in pts, rbs, assists, steals and blocks each night while also covering up mistakes on the defensive end.

Dallas had Finney-Smith and Utah has O'Neal to provide defense on the opponents stars. Neither of those players are counted on for their scoring, so they can put all of their energy into their D. The Clips don't have anyone like Finney-Smith or O'Neal, so Kawhi and PG have to pull that duty also. They could do it, but they need other people to shoulder some load.

MartinToVaught wrote:

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Clemenza wrote:Not to be a negative Nancy but how about Doc cutting this guy way back

Clemenza wrote:

clipperlover wrote:

playaloc916 wrote:Looks like Morris should be called Pandemic Mook now... For these playoffs, he's shooting 38%/35%. Last year he shot 51%/48%.

Kawhi and PG seem to be alternating good scoring games. Most of the time, they can't seem to both have good shooting games at the same time.

I think Reggie might be the most consistent player so far in these playoffs. Normally, I'd be pleasantly surprised, but instead, I'm actually disappointed. Disappointed in the sense that he would have been the "x-factor", but our stars can't seem to score as consistently as the opposing team's star(s), and Mook is a complete no-show (if we exclude Game 7, I'd be scared to see his numbers).

Because Kawhi and PG are two way players and the Clips have the PG playmaker, Kawhi and PG have to shoulder more load on both sides of the floor. There is only so much energy you can use and still be effective. It is asking a lot of them to lead the team in pts, rbs, assists, steals and blocks each night while also covering up mistakes on the defensive end.

Dallas had Finney-Smith and Utah has O'Neal to provide defense on the opponents stars. Neither of those players are counted on for their scoring, so they can put all of their energy into their D. The Clips don't have anyone like Finney-Smith or O'Neal, so Kawhi and PG have to pull that duty also. They could do it, but they need other people to shoulder some load.

Exactly, these guys are shouldering a huge load in this postseason

MartinToVaught wrote:

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Quake Griffin wrote:

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Well, not only do I detest the Make-Or-Miss League Docism. I am doubly less inclined to provide that here to this team. At some point, the trends we are seeing demonstrate something - this team can't shoot under playoff pressure for some reason.

Choking?
Some hex put on us by Vi Stiviano?
Paul George's shaky hand nervousness permeating to the team?

I dunno but whatever it is, I think it would be incredibly naïve for us to just pretend that we will get back to the mean just because. There's enough of a sample size here to demonstrate we lay lots and lots of bricks in the postseason. It's supposed to be Lee Jenkins (Chairman of Clipper Roster Feelings) to figure out wtf is going on here.

Max Headrom wrote:What's pissing me off is all the fouls they call on Zu on screens but have yet to call one on Gobert when he's hip checking and setting screens using his elbows and pushing. If you're gonna call it, call it both ways

og15 wrote:Of course while the phrase ["Make or Miss League"] can be overused, it is reality. Clippers did shoot 41.1% 3PT in the regular season, but Kennard did take 224 of those three's (9%), and he's only played 3 of the 9 playoff games so far and taken just 5% of the total three's, that could be a factor. Overall in the post-season, the team is at 37.3% 3PT technically not bad. Even consistency wise, they have shot ~37% 3PT or higher in 7/9 games, the actual problem is that they have not had hot games like they did in the regular season. If you keep creating those shots, you're not supposed to miss forever, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.

During the regular season, they shot above that 41.1% 3PT mark 40 times (55.6% of games), and 27 of those were 45%+ (37.5% of games). In the post-season they have only eclipsed the 41.4% mark once, game 7 vs Dallas. Now someone might argue playoffs, better defenses, and while true, Dallas wasn't particularly good on defense.

The Clippers Ortg is at 119.7 (BBallref numbers), above their regular season 117.6 and 5th in the playoffs. vs Utah in the two games, they posted 118.1 Ortg (Game 1) and 115.0 Ortg (Game 2). Certainly above average and good offensive production overall without saying they should have made this or that shot at this or that time. So one a large scale, the same problem as the Dallas series remains. Can't defend well enough and need to out-offense their opponents which leaves a lot less room for error.

Now, PG is a big culprit, and his decrease can also be expected, because he takes the most off dribble and isolation type three's on the team, so the less efficient overall three's. In the playoffs, those shots are more likely to miss more often vs the catch and shoot and open ones. One his career, PG goes down 3.2% from 3PT range from RS to PS. So PG is down 8.3% 3PT, and that hurts the team numbers. Minus George, the team is shooting 38.7% 3PT, better, but still not as good as the regular season since Morris is also down. Efficiency wise though, PG subsidized his efficiency with FT's, where his FT rate has about doubled in the post-season, and therefore his overall shooting efficiency is not much different, 59.8% TS regular season to 58.2% TS playoffs.

All in all, it is certainly tough, Clippers have issues defensively, but their opponents have also have shooting that is exceeding what is supposed to happen on average in those situations. That part you really can't control. It's not a coincidence that Utah transformed it's offense from 35.2 3PT (10th) last season to 43.0 3PT (1st) this season. They know the power of the 3PT shot, especially in the modern day.

The Clippers had been so wary of driving into the paint and tempting the shot-blocking prowess of Utah’s 7-foot Rudy Gobert that their drive-and-pass offense that helped them generate one of the NBA’s largest percentages of wide-open shots during the regular season was effectively neutered.

Yet with little working, they began dribbling downhill and kicking the ball to open shooters, who knocked down 12 of 19 shots in the third quarter.

But the Clippers could not finish the job. Jackson’s three-pointer was their one and only lead. They missed their next nine shots, outscored 14-4 over the next five minutes.

“Four or five wide open threes,” Lue said. “We just didn’t make them.”

clipperlover wrote:I think there is a way that we can get Lue to make the right adjustments. We need Morris to get into foul trouble early in every game, so Lue benches him. Boogie has contributed more in much less time this series. Plus, Boogie can body up on Gobert. The issue for Boogie is that he is trying to do too much because he knows his time is limited. Lue needs to be forced to leave him in there longer.

Does Boogie impact things defensively, yes? However, he adds a level of toughness that is missing and he can rebound and get to the FT line. Lue needs to find a way to take advantage of what Boogie can provide.

Utah ended the first half on a 14-3 run over three minutes, which began when backup center DeMarcus Cousins’ minutes outlived their effectiveness. In less than 80 seconds, Cousins traveled, missed a three-pointer and was blocked at the rim by Rudy Gobert, and Utah seized on the empty possessions, scoring six points to take their first double-digit lead.

esqtvd wrote:

clipperlover wrote:I think there is a way that we can get Lue to make the right adjustments. We need Morris to get into foul trouble early in every game, so Lue benches him. Boogie has contributed more in much less time this series. Plus, Boogie can body up on Gobert. The issue for Boogie is that he is trying to do too much because he knows his time is limited. Lue needs to be forced to leave him in there longer.

Does Boogie impact things defensively, yes? However, he adds a level of toughness that is missing and he can rebound and get to the FT line. Lue needs to find a way to take advantage of what Boogie can provide.

two-edged sword

Utah ended the first half on a 14-3 run over three minutes, which began when backup center DeMarcus Cousins’ minutes outlived their effectiveness. In less than 80 seconds, Cousins traveled, missed a three-pointer and was blocked at the rim by Rudy Gobert, and Utah seized on the empty possessions, scoring six points to take their first double-digit lead.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/story/2021-06-10/clippers-jazz-game-2-donovan-mitchell-37-points

clipperlover wrote:

playaloc916 wrote:Looks like Morris should be called Pandemic Mook now... For these playoffs, he's shooting 38%/35%. Last year he shot 51%/48%.

Kawhi and PG seem to be alternating good scoring games. Most of the time, they can't seem to both have good shooting games at the same time.

I think Reggie might be the most consistent player so far in these playoffs. Normally, I'd be pleasantly surprised, but instead, I'm actually disappointed. Disappointed in the sense that he would have been the "x-factor", but our stars can't seem to score as consistently as the opposing team's star(s), and Mook is a complete no-show (if we exclude Game 7, I'd be scared to see his numbers).

Because Kawhi and PG are two way players and the Clips have the PG playmaker, Kawhi and PG have to shoulder more load on both sides of the floor. There is only so much energy you can use and still be effective. It is asking a lot of them to lead the team in pts, rbs, assists, steals and blocks each night while also covering up mistakes on the defensive end.

Dallas had Finney-Smith and Utah has O'Neal to provide defense on the opponents stars. Neither of those players are counted on for their scoring, so they can put all of their energy into their D. The Clips don't have anyone like Finney-Smith or O'Neal, so Kawhi and PG have to pull that duty also. They could do it, but they need other people to shoulder some load.

Quake Griffin wrote:

MartinToVaught wrote:

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This **** only happens to the Clippers.

Well, not only do I detest the Make-Or-Miss League Docism. I am doubly less inclined to provide that here to this team. At some point, the trends we are seeing demonstrate something - this team can't shoot under playoff pressure for some reason.

Choking?
Some hex put on us by Vi Stiviano?
Paul George's shaky hand nervousness permeating to the team?

I dunno but whatever it is, I think it would be incredibly naïve for us to just pretend that we will get back to the mean just because. There's enough of a sample size here to demonstrate we lay lots and lots of bricks in the postseason. It's supposed to be Lee Jenkins (Chairman of Clipper Roster Feelings) to figure out wtf is going on here.

playaloc916 wrote:

clipperlover wrote:

playaloc916 wrote:Looks like Morris should be called Pandemic Mook now... For these playoffs, he's shooting 38%/35%. Last year he shot 51%/48%.

Kawhi and PG seem to be alternating good scoring games. Most of the time, they can't seem to both have good shooting games at the same time.

I think Reggie might be the most consistent player so far in these playoffs. Normally, I'd be pleasantly surprised, but instead, I'm actually disappointed. Disappointed in the sense that he would have been the "x-factor", but our stars can't seem to score as consistently as the opposing team's star(s), and Mook is a complete no-show (if we exclude Game 7, I'd be scared to see his numbers).

Because Kawhi and PG are two way players and the Clips have the PG playmaker, Kawhi and PG have to shoulder more load on both sides of the floor. There is only so much energy you can use and still be effective. It is asking a lot of them to lead the team in pts, rbs, assists, steals and blocks each night while also covering up mistakes on the defensive end.

Dallas had Finney-Smith and Utah has O'Neal to provide defense on the opponents stars. Neither of those players are counted on for their scoring, so they can put all of their energy into their D. The Clips don't have anyone like Finney-Smith or O'Neal, so Kawhi and PG have to pull that duty also. They could do it, but they need other people to shoulder some load.

I'm wondering if Mann could be our Finney-Smith or O'Neal... Against Dallas he could drive and play downhill, but in this series with Gobert in the paint, he could focus on defense instead. I think Bev and Mann could take turns defending Mitchell, and that should lessen the defensive load on Kawhi and PG.