Where was the Cp3 love when he was with the Clippers?

Akklaim1 · Post #1 » by **Akklaim1** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 4:18 am

Everyone is suddenly rooting for “CpFlop”. You know, one half of the duo everyone else on GB despised and enjoyed watching choke in the playoffs.

KL78192020 · Post #2 » by **KL78192020** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 5:59 am

Lots of people who still dont like Paul whereas the rest of the Suns are likeable and people are rooting for them plus the narrative can change 5 year later. There were also more people who didn't like Beverly, George, Cousins, Morris.

MartinToVaught · Post #3 » by **MartinToVaught** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 2:24 pm

You must have a very different memory than I do. CP3, as usual, was treated as completely blameless and the only reason the Clippers were relevant. Blake was the designated scapegoat who got all the slander and all the blame when things went wrong, even from our own fans.

Akklaim1 · Post #4 » by **Akklaim1** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 5:22 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:You must have a very different memory than I do. CP3, as usual, was treated as completely blameless and the only reason the Clippers were relevant. Blake was the designated scapegoat who got all the slander and all the blame when things went wrong, even from our own fans.

Then you were probably in a coma.

CP3 was hated for his antics on the court especially the flopping. Also, you’re missing the subtle point I’m trying to make here. It just seems like a player becomes unlikeable once he starts wearing a Clipper jersey. Nobody wants us to succeed.

Quake Griffin · Post #5 » by **Quake Griffin** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 5:46 pm

CP3 was def hated back then.

He was called a flop a lot.
People on this board routinely brought up his history of dirtiness.
He was held to an unbelievable standard as a superstar.

He had to guard guys like Westbrook and produce on offense when guys like Westbrook would outsource their defense to Sefalosha. Chase Steph all game, while Steph outsourced his defense to Klay Thompson. Chase Tony Parker while Danny Green and Kawhi took turns on him. All for people to just say he's a flop, a choke artist etc. etc. when the Clippers CLEARLY had flawed rosters at the time.

Nonetheless, the media hates a TRUE underdog story. They truly hate to see the Clippers get up off the proverbial mat and turn itself around to a respectable franchise. They hated CP3 and Lob City. They hate the Kawhi-PG era. It will be something else when we acquire our next star.

These people are goofy AF and are actually boring enough to only want Lakers-Celtics every year.

MartinToVaught · Post #6 » by **MartinToVaught** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 9:11 pm

Akklaim1 wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:You must have a very different memory than I do. CP3, as usual, was treated as completely blameless and the only reason the Clippers were relevant. Blake was the designated scapegoat who got all the slander and all the blame when things went wrong, even from our own fans.

Then you were probably in a coma.

CP3 was hated for his antics on the court especially the flopping. Also, you’re missing the subtle point I’m trying to make here. It just seems like a player becomes unlikeable once he starts wearing a Clipper jersey. Nobody wants us to succeed.

People didn't like his antics, sure, but they still massively overrated him as a player like they're doing now. They still blamed all his failures entirely on his teammates and the franchise in general.

Roscoe Sheed · Post #7 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 9:33 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
Akklaim1 wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:You must have a very different memory than I do. CP3, as usual, was treated as completely blameless and the only reason the Clippers were relevant. Blake was the designated scapegoat who got all the slander and all the blame when things went wrong, even from our own fans.

Then you were probably in a coma.

CP3 was hated for his antics on the court especially the flopping. Also, you’re missing the subtle point I’m trying to make here. It just seems like a player becomes unlikeable once he starts wearing a Clipper jersey. Nobody wants us to succeed.

People didn't like his antics, sure, but they still massively overrated him as a player like they're doing now. They still blamed all his failures entirely on his teammates and the franchise in general.

In general, that is true- but he received some well deserved criticism for the game 5 meltdown vs OKC in 2014 (although the refs played a role in fairness) and the 2015 game 6 choke job vs Houston.

nickhx2 · Post #8 » by **nickhx2** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 9:37 pm

i saw plenty of dislike for cp3 on the GB, especially in game 5 where he was flopping all over the place.

as well as a surprising amount of support for the clippers. it goes both ways. i don't think there is any particularly sharp bias against the clippers, unless it's coming from laker fans.

Roscoe Sheed · Post #9 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 11:38 pm

nickhx2 wrote:i saw plenty of dislike for cp3 on the GB, especially in game 5 where he was flopping all over the place.

as well as a surprising amount of support for the clippers. it goes both ways. i don't think there is any particularly sharp bias against the clippers, unless it's coming from laker fans.

To a lesser extent, many raptors dislike the clippers for recruiting kawhi

nickhx2 · Post #10 » by **nickhx2** » Mon Jul 5, 2021 11:56 pm

agree

esqtvd · Post #11 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 12:01 am

I loved CP when he was here. I didn't disagree with his decision to leave, but after that I felt nothing. Still don't, really. In retrospect, as a Clipper I don't think he was the leader he needed to be, but OTOH Blake and DJ weren't very good followers OR leaders.

Interesting that they're both toast at 32 and CP is still rolling strong at 36...

Roscoe Sheed · Post #12 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 12:30 am

esqtvd wrote:I loved CP when he was here. I didn't disagree with his decision to leave, but after that I felt nothing. Still don't, really. In retrospect, as a Clipper I don't think he was the leader he needed to be, but OTOH Blake and DJ weren't very good followers OR leaders.

Interesting that they're both toast at 32 and CP is still rolling strong at 36...

Blake showed he still has some game during the playoffs. DJ, on the other hand, isn’t long for the nba at this point

Quake Griffin · Post #13 » by **Quake Griffin** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:12 am

I said it in 2017.

Trade Blake. CP will age well into his mid 30s.
Flip a coin on how Clipper fans felt about re-signing him at that big money. I didn't waiver. I compared him to Nash at the time. I said if Nash could play well until 36, so can he.

FFW....Blake is a hustle player. DJ can't get off the bench. CP goes vegan and is helping Book and Ayton to what is looking like may be a ring. 41 on our head at Staples to get to the finals.

I even wanted to see if we could deal for him this offseason. It wasn't feasible but Ida taken him.

Worst Contract Ever yall.
He can't beat his man yall.
Russell Westbrook (LMFAO...apparently a better contract -_-) is the better player yall....hahaha.

They left my man for dead after his time in Houston and Morey hit him with the Takeover by dealing him to OKC.
I'm glad he is responding with that Ether this year.

Go get your ring CP. You deserve it.

esqtvd · Post #14 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:21 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:
esqtvd wrote:I loved CP when he was here. I didn't disagree with his decision to leave, but after that I felt nothing. Still don't, really. In retrospect, as a Clipper I don't think he was the leader he needed to be, but OTOH Blake and DJ weren't very good followers OR leaders.

Interesting that they're both toast at 32 and CP is still rolling strong at 36...

Blake showed he still has some game during the playoffs. DJ, on the other hand, isn’t long for the nba at this point

Blake played mostly small-ball center [83% of his minutes] and had 2 months to rest up. 9/6/2 in 26 minutes isn't all that impressive and I would think the Nets would be looking to upgrade that production, esp the rebounding. With $100 million in the bank, I wonder if Blake wants to chase a ring bad enough to caddy for a younger stud, and at a greatly reduced salary.

https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2021/07/05/whats-next-for-blake-griffin/

esqtvd · Post #15 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:22 am

Quake Griffin wrote:I said it in 2017.

Trade Blake. CP will age well into his mid 30s.
Flip a coin on how Clipper fans felt about re-signing him at that big money. I didn't waiver. I compared him to Nash at the time. I said if Nash could play well until 36, so can he.

Me too, even the Nash part.

Akklaim1 · Post #16 » by **Akklaim1** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:35 am

For the record, I am rooting for CP to get a ring. His speech after Game 6 was heartwarming when he said the Clippers are family and he’ll always be a Clipper. But at the same time, I won’t feel bad if the Suns lose. If they win, we’ll be the oldest NBA franchise to have yet win a ring.

Quake Griffin · Post #17 » by **Quake Griffin** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 2:26 pm

Akklaim1 wrote:For the record, I am rooting for CP to get a ring. His speech after Game 6 was heartwarming when he said the Clippers are family and he’ll always be a Clipper. But at the same time, I won’t feel bad if the Suns lose. If they win, we’ll be the oldest NBA franchise to have yet win a ring.

He's not perfect but he burns to win.

He needed another star with him that burned to win.
Sorry. Blake and DJ were just not it.

CP is a great floor raiser btw...people like to act like this isn't a thing by never mentioning it. Put him on a team and they're gonna win 50 games regardless of the roster. He needed another sure fire bucket of a superstar with him. Not a comedian at the laugh factory.

He also needed some long wings. The league had Kawhi, Bron, Durant....and we were trying to get rings with JJ/ Matt or JJ and Luc. :crazy:

People always "overrate" CP3. :roll:

It's me.
I'm people.

NickP · Post #18 » by **NickP** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 6:59 pm

I don't know about fans but the basketball Gods are definitely happy for CP3.
The Lakers were hurt. The Nuggets were hurt. The Clippers were hurt.
And now the Bucks? Who knows?

Wammy Giveaway · Post #19 » by **Wammy Giveaway** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 8:55 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:These people are goofy AF and are actually boring enough to only want Lakers-Celtics every year.

The Lakers-Celtics rivalry was the very thing that put the NBA on the map in the 1950's when the league was just starting. When the murmurs of bankruptcy reached gossip levels in the late 1970's, it was the Lakers-Celtics rivalry that came through to save the league from shutting down. Those same people see those two teams as the saviors of the league; without them, the league would crumble. As if the NFL, NHL or MLB will supersede the NBA just because the Finals don't include Lakers, Celtics, or preferably both.

MartinToVaught wrote:People didn't like his antics, sure, but they still massively overrated him as a player like they're doing now. They still blamed all his failures entirely on his teammates and the franchise in general.

...which is why on Twitter, there were loads of tweets treating the western conference finals as a revenge series for Chris Paul. I've picked out a select few tweets which you can view below by clicking on Spoilers.

Spoiler:

MartinToVaught · Post #20 » by **MartinToVaught** » Tue Jul 6, 2021 9:08 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:
esqtvd wrote:I loved CP when he was here. I didn't disagree with his decision to leave, but after that I felt nothing. Still don't, really. In retrospect, as a Clipper I don't think he was the leader he needed to be, but OTOH Blake and DJ weren't very good followers OR leaders.

Interesting that they're both toast at 32 and CP is still rolling strong at 36...

Blake showed he still has some game during the playoffs. DJ, on the other hand, isn’t long for the nba at this point

DJ was never anything special, to be honest. I remember arguing on here years ago that he would never be worth the big contract we ended up giving him, and I was right. What ended up derailing his career was becoming a selfish statpadder at the same time his athleticism started declining. He stopped caring about anything other than his rebounds.