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Hmm

Kind of a pattern here. Miller is another senior which points toward high floor/low ceiling. He's a (very) good defender and rebounder for a SG; if he plays in the NBA, it will be as a 2/3. Does not make mistakes with the ball. Seems to know his game and is comfortable with it. Huge wingspan. We'll know pretty soon if his strengths tran'ate at the NBA level. Could ge a TMann type of pick/player.

He had a really good combine, especially the team play.

Thanks for the solid contributions Mr. Moderator


two 6-7 guys
at least they're getting that part right

another old guy
Clips are playing Moneyball
looking for value that others turn their noses up at

so what else do we hate about this guy?
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Jordan Miller Draft Profile

Miller played five years of college basketball. His first three years were with the George Mason Patriots before playing his final two seasons with the Miami Hurricanes. He earned second-team All-ACC honors with Miami last year.

Miami made the Final Four in 2023, and Miller played a huge role in that. He averaged 15.3 points, 6.2 points, and 2.7 assists across 37 games. The 6-foot-7 wing had a season-high 27 points against the Texas Longhorns in the Elite Eight to propel the Hurricanes to the Final Four.

Strengths
He has a very long frame (6-foot-7) with an athletic profile. He’s a decent shooter that consistently shot 33.3% from distance in college. On top of that, Miller has proven himself as a capable rebounder (6.0 RPG) and a solid defender.

Weaknesses
He played five years of college hoops, making him one of the older players in the draft. There are questions surrounding his upside because of that.

Despite his athletic profile and decent jumper, he was often inconsistent and sometimes passive on offense.

Player comparison: Mikal Bridges, De’Andre Hunter

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2023/6/22/23759728/jordan-miller-nba-draft-2023-scouting-report-strengths-weaknesses-player-comparison-stock-grade

esqtvd wrote:Thanks for the solid contributions Mr. Moderator


two 6-7 guys
at least they're getting that part right

another old guy
Clips are playing Moneyball
looking for value that others turn their noses up at

so what else do we hate about this guy?
_____________________________________________________
Jordan Miller Draft Profile

Miller played five years of college basketball. His first three years were with the George Mason Patriots before playing his final two seasons with the Miami Hurricanes. He earned second-team All-ACC honors with Miami last year.

Miami made the Final Four in 2023, and Miller played a huge role in that. He averaged 15.3 points, 6.2 points, and 2.7 assists across 37 games. The 6-foot-7 wing had a season-high 27 points against the Texas Longhorns in the Elite Eight to propel the Hurricanes to the Final Four.

Strengths
He has a very long frame (6-foot-7) with an athletic profile. He’s a decent shooter that consistently shot 33.3% from distance in college. On top of that, Miller has proven himself as a capable rebounder (6.0 RPG) and a solid defender.

Weaknesses
He played five years of college hoops, making him one of the older players in the draft. There are questions surrounding his upside because of that.

Despite his athletic profile and decent jumper, he was often inconsistent and sometimes passive on offense.

Player comparison: Mikal Bridges, De’Andre Hunter

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2023/6/22/23759728/jordan-miller-nba-draft-2023-scouting-report-strengths-weaknesses-player-comparison-stock-grade

Where does he find playing time? We have PG, Kawhi, Boston, Mann, Powell, EG. Does he get minutes over any of them

wakelaunch1 wrote:

esqtvd wrote:Thanks for the solid contributions Mr. Moderator


two 6-7 guys
at least they're getting that part right

another old guy
Clips are playing Moneyball
looking for value that others turn their noses up at

so what else do we hate about this guy?
_____________________________________________________
Jordan Miller Draft Profile

Miller played five years of college basketball. His first three years were with the George Mason Patriots before playing his final two seasons with the Miami Hurricanes. He earned second-team All-ACC honors with Miami last year.

Miami made the Final Four in 2023, and Miller played a huge role in that. He averaged 15.3 points, 6.2 points, and 2.7 assists across 37 games. The 6-foot-7 wing had a season-high 27 points against the Texas Longhorns in the Elite Eight to propel the Hurricanes to the Final Four.

Strengths
He has a very long frame (6-foot-7) with an athletic profile. He’s a decent shooter that consistently shot 33.3% from distance in college. On top of that, Miller has proven himself as a capable rebounder (6.0 RPG) and a solid defender.

Weaknesses
He played five years of college hoops, making him one of the older players in the draft. There are questions surrounding his upside because of that.

Despite his athletic profile and decent jumper, he was often inconsistent and sometimes passive on offense.

Player comparison: Mikal Bridges, De’Andre Hunter

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2023/6/22/23759728/jordan-miller-nba-draft-2023-scouting-report-strengths-weaknesses-player-comparison-stock-grade

Where does he find playing time? We have PG, Kawhi, Boston, Mann, Powell, EG. Does he get minutes over any of them

The 4. Marcus must go, Batum needs to get down to around 20 minutes and as for RoCo, your guess is as good as mine. But I have to say, if you look at the plus/minus at any point in the season, he did NOT earn more minutes. There was something Ty didn't like.

Absent finding a better 4, I'd love to start and finish with Batum but there are almost 30 minutes in between that I'd love for other people to fill. Maybe Diabate can get some too.

esqtvd wrote:

wakelaunch1 wrote:

esqtvd wrote:Thanks for the solid contributions Mr. Moderator


two 6-7 guys
at least they're getting that part right

another old guy
Clips are playing Moneyball
looking for value that others turn their noses up at

so what else do we hate about this guy?
_____________________________________________________
Jordan Miller Draft Profile

Miller played five years of college basketball. His first three years were with the George Mason Patriots before playing his final two seasons with the Miami Hurricanes. He earned second-team All-ACC honors with Miami last year.

Miami made the Final Four in 2023, and Miller played a huge role in that. He averaged 15.3 points, 6.2 points, and 2.7 assists across 37 games. The 6-foot-7 wing had a season-high 27 points against the Texas Longhorns in the Elite Eight to propel the Hurricanes to the Final Four.

Strengths
He has a very long frame (6-foot-7) with an athletic profile. He’s a decent shooter that consistently shot 33.3% from distance in college. On top of that, Miller has proven himself as a capable rebounder (6.0 RPG) and a solid defender.

Weaknesses
He played five years of college hoops, making him one of the older players in the draft. There are questions surrounding his upside because of that.

Despite his athletic profile and decent jumper, he was often inconsistent and sometimes passive on offense.

Player comparison: Mikal Bridges, De’Andre Hunter

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2023/6/22/23759728/jordan-miller-nba-draft-2023-scouting-report-strengths-weaknesses-player-comparison-stock-grade

Where does he find playing time? We have PG, Kawhi, Boston, Mann, Powell, EG. Does he get minutes over any of them

The 4. Marcus must go, Batum needs to get down to around 20 minutes and as for RoCo, your guess is as good as mine. But I have to say, if you look at the plus/minus at any point in the season, he did NOT earn more minutes. There was something Ty didn't like.

Absent finding a better 4, I'd love to start and finish with Batum but there are almost 30 minutes in between that I'd love for other people to fill. Maybe Diabate can get some too.

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you want him to play the 4 at 6'7 195? We are talking about Miller. Batum needs maybe 15 minutes a night. Off the bench. If hes hot he stays in, if cold, pull him immediately as his defense is gone.

wakelaunch1 wrote:

esqtvd wrote:

wakelaunch1 wrote:
Where does he find playing time? We have PG, Kawhi, Boston, Mann, Powell, EG. Does he get minutes over any of them

The 4. Marcus must go, Batum needs to get down to around 20 minutes and as for RoCo, your guess is as good as mine. But I have to say, if you look at the plus/minus at any point in the season, he did NOT earn more minutes. There was something Ty didn't like.

Absent finding a better 4, I'd love to start and finish with Batum but there are almost 30 minutes in between that I'd love for other people to fill. Maybe Diabate can get some too.

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you want him to play the 4 at 6'7 195? We are talking about Miller. Batum needs maybe 15 minutes a night. Off the bench. If hes hot he stays in, if cold, pull him immediately as his defense is gone.

Ooops my bad. I was thinking of our FRP Kobe Brown. My remarks were referring to him at the 4.

At #48, you take the Best Athlete Available. 6-7 Amir Coffey was undrafted and has hung around the org for 4 seasons now. Even played 1500 minutes one year. At this point, with 2 yr/$7M on his contract guaranteed and he's not even a rotation player, the Clips are looking to dump him off. Miller could slide into that role and maybe even grab a rotation slot someday.

esqtvd wrote:

wakelaunch1 wrote:

esqtvd wrote:

The 4. Marcus must go, Batum needs to get down to around 20 minutes and as for RoCo, your guess is as good as mine. But I have to say, if you look at the plus/minus at any point in the season, he did NOT earn more minutes. There was something Ty didn't like.

Absent finding a better 4, I'd love to start and finish with Batum but there are almost 30 minutes in between that I'd love for other people to fill. Maybe Diabate can get some too.

:



you want him to play the 4 at 6'7 195? We are talking about Miller. Batum needs maybe 15 minutes a night. Off the bench. If hes hot he stays in, if cold, pull him immediately as his defense is gone.

Ooops my bad. I was thinking of our FRP Kobe Brown. My remarks were referring to him at the 4.

At #48, you take the Best Athlete Available. 6-7 Amir Coffey was undrafted and has hung around the org for 4 seasons now. Even played 1500 minutes one year. At this point, with 2 yr/$7M on his contract guaranteed and he's not even a rotation player, the Clips are looking to dump him off. Miller could slide into that role and maybe even grab a rotation slot someday.

I get it but if the front office still believes in the 2/3 guards we have, you have to spend as much draft capital on centers, power forwards, and point guards. This is our weakness and hope one of the picks pans out.

having a 23 year old wing in our system for 3-4 years doesnt do much.

wakelaunch1 wrote:

esqtvd wrote:

wakelaunch1 wrote: :



you want him to play the 4 at 6'7 195? We are talking about Miller. Batum needs maybe 15 minutes a night. Off the bench. If hes hot he stays in, if cold, pull him immediately as his defense is gone.

Ooops my bad. I was thinking of our FRP Kobe Brown. My remarks were referring to him at the 4.

At #48, you take the Best Athlete Available. 6-7 Amir Coffey was undrafted and has hung around the org for 4 seasons now. Even played 1500 minutes one year. At this point, with 2 yr/$7M on his contract guaranteed and he's not even a rotation player, the Clips are looking to dump him off. Miller could slide into that role and maybe even grab a rotation slot someday.

I get it but if the front office still believes in the 2/3 guards we have, you have to spend as much draft capital on centers, power forwards, and point guards. This is our weakness and hope one of the picks pans out.

having a 23 year old wing in our system for 3-4 years doesnt do much.

Well, again, you take the best available. At #48, you just want someone who can stay in the league at all.

This is old info but I see no reason the proportions have changed much.

wakelaunch1 wrote:

esqtvd wrote:

wakelaunch1 wrote: :



you want him to play the 4 at 6'7 195? We are talking about Miller. Batum needs maybe 15 minutes a night. Off the bench. If hes hot he stays in, if cold, pull him immediately as his defense is gone.

Ooops my bad. I was thinking of our FRP Kobe Brown. My remarks were referring to him at the 4.

At #48, you take the Best Athlete Available. 6-7 Amir Coffey was undrafted and has hung around the org for 4 seasons now. Even played 1500 minutes one year. At this point, with 2 yr/$7M on his contract guaranteed and he's not even a rotation player, the Clips are looking to dump him off. Miller could slide into that role and maybe even grab a rotation slot someday.

I get it but if the front office still believes in the 2/3 guards we have, you have to spend as much draft capital on centers, power forwards, and point guards. This is our weakness and hope one of the picks pans out.

having a 23 year old wing in our system for 3-4 years doesnt do much.

I think we will also have to see how things go when free agency starts as more deals will happen then, but also at 48, you're not particularly thinking of how many minutes the guy is going to get as a rookie.

Of course if he surprises and is great, awesome, and you can find time for him or make moves, but you're also thinking of what he can add to your team in year 2 or 3 at which point the rotations won't be exactly the same.

Interesting pick -- definitely with thoughts of fall back in case of injuries or trades on the wing, and with the mindset of older rookie to contribute now (or soon) in that vein.

Sounds like a solid wing on both ends who can be a contributor for awhile and potentially immediately.

Don't mind it at all, just don't know how much he'll play yet; but if he does, should be better suited to on both ends than maybe other picks or Brandon Boston. Not knocking Boston, I'm still intrigued by him and his talent offensively, and defensive potential (length, quickness), but he's obviously more of a guard-wing than a wing-forward like Miller.

Will have to look at him more, as well.

Clippers drafted both Kobe and Jordan! Championship incoming.