What is Bones Hyland

PeteyPablo · Post #1 » by **PeteyPablo** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:45 pm

It looks like while he is 22 years old , this will be the start to his third season. ( I bought some autograph Bone rookie cards).

Where does he fit onto this Clippers team. What do you project his growth and career will be?

Also feel free to discuss and share about the other young players and their outlook.
- Brandon Boston Jr
- Diabate
- Preston
- Blank

Clemenza · Post #2 » by **Clemenza** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:04 pm

There's reports that Norm is on the trading block. If he's moved then this would definitely help Bones and Boston out tremendously. Both of these guys are ready to contribute imo. I think we see Diabate on the main team full time with a real NBA contract instead of a two-way this year. He has a three point shot in his arsenal, he needs to really work on it along with his defense to get some type of time on the floor.

I get resigning Westbrook to start but this would have be the year that Preston, if the front office and coaching staff believes in him, would be penciled in as the backup. I haven't seen him excel in one area at running point. He he doesn't show anything this year I think he's gone. As for the two kids just drafted, I have no clue on them whatsoever

MartinToVaught · Post #3 » by **MartinToVaught** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:14 pm

Clemenza wrote:There's reports that Norm is on the trading block. If he's moved then this would definitely help Bones and Boston out tremendously.

Will it really? Or will Ty and PG just demand another 36-year-old veteran off the scrapheap who takes all the minutes they should be getting?

Clemenza · Post #4 » by **Clemenza** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:38 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
Clemenza wrote:There's reports that Norm is on the trading block. If he's moved then this would definitely help Bones and Boston out tremendously.

Will it really? Or will Ty and PG just demand another 36-year-old veteran off the scrapheap who takes all the minutes they should be getting?

Good question. I thought about this as well.

esqtvd · Post #5 » by **esqtvd** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:57 pm

At 22, Bones is a prospect and in his brief time here, got [earned] more minutes as a Clipper last year than any of the G-Leaguers.

Preston is 24 in August and though his numbers were good in G-League, it's still G-league and he's no kid. Diabate is only 21 but at 6'9" and 210, his lack of a 3-point shot makes him a bad fit at the 4 and he's presently too skinny for the 5. Boston shows ability as a volume scorer [24.4 ppg in G-League @ 46.6%] but shot only 33.3% from distance, which is a concern in today's NBA. If he shot around 40% he'd probably be starting somewhere.

wakelaunch1 · Post #6 » by **wakelaunch1** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:22 pm

Clemenza wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:
Clemenza wrote:There's reports that Norm is on the trading block. If he's moved then this would definitely help Bones and Boston out tremendously.

Will it really? Or will Ty and PG just demand another 36-year-old veteran off the scrapheap who takes all the minutes they should be getting?

Good question. I thought about this as well.

Bones is talented for sure. He has a little bit of that awkward game. His shot is weird but it goes in. His handle is weird but he has pretty good handles. Hes thin and doesnt really have the frame to bulk up. He brings energy and flair. If he were to start, I think you would have to build the right skill players around him.

I wouldnt mind him being the starting PG to start the season. Hes fun. He also makes a lot of sense as the lead guard off the bench.

NickP · Post #7 » by **NickP** » Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:47 pm

wakelaunch1 wrote:
Clemenza wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:Will it really? Or will Ty and PG just demand another 36-year-old veteran off the scrapheap who takes all the minutes they should be getting?

Good question. I thought about this as well.

Bones is talented for sure. He has a little bit of that awkward game. His shot is weird but it goes in. His handle is weird but he has pretty good handles. Hes thin and doesnt really have the frame to bulk up. He brings energy and flair. If he were to start, I think you would have to build the right skill players around him.

I wouldnt mind him being the starting PG to start the season. Hes fun. He also makes a lot of sense as the lead guard off the bench.

So true about his awkward game. I too would like to see him in the starting role.

esqtvd · Post #8 » by **esqtvd** » Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:52 am

this guy

or this guy

Ballings7 · Post #9 » by **Ballings7** » Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:30 am

[[Puts on Moussa Diabate '23-'24 campaign hat; walks into room]]

Diabate I think has potential to be a decent spacing PF in the NBA, and also an off-the-rebound facilitator in transition.. he showed his shooting range in college at times though not reliable, and also his passing/handle game off rebounds -- so the rhythm and initiative was there over the sason he had -- he just needs to get time to prove it in the NBA, and probable he's already been working on both, along with repping on his handle and passing at NBA-level (speed, physicality). I know he has a good motor and wants to actually get better.

I'd imagine thats one of his goals coming into next season in the least on 3PT shot, and knows he needs to establish that adequately to get in the rotation, and stay in the league. Apart from his other offensive skills he's showed flashes of.

I look at Diabate as a draft-pick coming into this season, because of how little he played last season. A G-League draft-and-stash.

He really can be a terror defensively in multiple ways and on the glass, and has a decent chance to actually be a semi-special, impactful offensive player in the league at PF/C -- passing off rebounds, advancing the ball in transition, of course finishing, hook shot in the paint, some consistent spacing from his jumper.

I really want to see him get time and show what he can do for a solid stretch of games at least, and be a semi-rotation member at least this season.

Will be looking forward to his summer league and pre-season play. He might be the solution to moving on from Morris if he impresses enough into the start of the season : ).

Watch on YouTube

Time for the Moussa Show in '23-'24

clipsfever · Post #10 » by **clipsfever** » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:39 pm

Bones: as the roster stands, our best (only?) chance to motor it uptempo on the 2nd unit - and if Russ doesn't return that 1st unit could be truly plodding depending upon Frank's upcoming "moves."

(Andi if Kobe and Diabate can play as running 3/4 and 4/5 roles off the bench, that would fit the bill as well)

Abandon all hope.

clipperlover · Post #11 » by **clipperlover** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:38 am

Bones is a selfish, impatient, poor shot taking and decision making bench player that may be good to bring in when your are down and need some quick offense. However, he isn't NBA starting material and expectations should be too high for him. The guy acted stupidly and got kicked off the NBA Champions. That alone should tell you everything you need to know.

PeteyPablo · Post #12 » by **PeteyPablo** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:07 pm

I just saw some footage on Instagram of Bones playing ball at the different summer runs against pro and non pro.

He looks in shape but is still severely undersized in terms of bulk. Will he gain size or do you think this is his natural size and will remain the same? Granted he is very young and still has room for growth.

As for the gameplay - he has speed, handles, gets to the rim and has range. Given his youth, reigning in some of the wild gunner ways might happen over time.

nickhx2 · Post #13 » by **nickhx2** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:45 pm

the only way to gain muscle is through dedicated hard work and training (or at least a dedication to testosterone boosts and some hard work and some training lol)

basically just saying, if he isn't looking bigger now then he probably just doesn't care at all about it, and the answer is most likely: he'll most likely remain the same, but if he ever starts caring then it might change.

or, just being that he's young and rich and seems to have a massive ego, he thinks he has all the tools he'll ever need and has not really entertained the idea of being optimally fit for the sake of basketball/life. or he maybe he just loathes resistance training. or eating. can't really say, so i guess i'd just say we should welcome the day, but also not expect it at this point.

some guys just wanna ball and live their life and not do anything else (jamal crawford a prime example). which is unfortunate from a player development standpoint because if he had about 15-20 pounds of actual muscle on him, he wouldn't have exploded on every screen, and he'd have had a a much better chance of not being backed down in the post. and for a guy with his skills and length, he would have been much more difficult to deal with backing down smaller guards.

esqtvd · Post #14 » by **esqtvd** » Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:18 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #15 » by **TrueLAfan** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:38 pm

Okay—so I see there are two main beefs with Bones Hyland. Both of them are true—and neither is as big of a deal as some people are implying.

Bones is trying to bulk up his frame. This is based on … wait for it … he’s skinny. A guy nicknamed Bones is skinny. Surely this can’t shock people. There have been dozens of NBA players with thin builds, including combo guards—first two guys that come to mind are Ri[p Hamilton (listed at 6’6” 185) and Michael Cooper (6’7”, 170). Nice long careers, lots of 65/70+ game seasons. Reggie Miller was never a bulky guy in any way. Skinny players trend now; Ja is scrawny guy (6’3”, 170). So is De’Aaron Fox—who has “bulked up” to 180, and is the same height as Bones. SGA is a skinny dude. I don’t associate being thin with something wrong as long as the player is in shape. And I don’t see and have never read about conditioning issues with Bones. Maybe he’ll bulk up in later years (like Fox—who’s still on the thin side). Maybe he’ll stay thin because that’s his build. Whatever. But to extrapolate that he doesn’t care and doesn’t work (or work out)—that’s not just not fair, it’s wrong. I mean, Russ seems okay with Bones’ workouts and conditioning.

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Then there’s the way he acted that got him traded. He could and probably should have handled that better. But let’s be clear—Bones played pretty well in his rookie year as a 21 year old, on a good team—and they acquired a FA that took time from him (Bruce Bowen). The Bones/Murray fit was not a good one, since Murray is not a good defender and neither is Bones (now). His minutes were all over the place in the last month or so with Nuggets. He was 21 and was upset with the coaching staff because he didn’t feel like they were defining his role. Whether or not that legit is up to you. The way he acted with the team was poor (although a couple of Nugs were sympathetic)—pretty much no debate there.

But also absolutely no debate that his dissatisfaction with and in Denver made him available to us. If Bones was a locker room cancer throughout his time in Denver, or if he had issues that spilled into legal trouble, I’d be more hesitant. He wasn't and didn’t. Dude wanted to play more. He was popular with the team in his rookie year, and communication with coaching went south in his second year. He should have gone about voicing that better, but it’s kind of understandable for a guy who’s on back to back “Rising Stars” teams/games at the ASB. And I can’t emphasize this enough—that’s how we got him.

Maybe he'll be a bust. Maybe he'll bust out. He's not a perfect player. But he's young and has some obvious skills. He wants to be here, is playing a ton of preseason games and putting in work. We got him for very little. If he's a rotation level player--and he was one for most of time in Denver, and once he got settled in here--he's a bonus.

madmaxmedia · Post #16 » by **madmaxmedia** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:32 pm

If only Lou Williams had actually put in the work in the offseason and bulked up to 220...

Post #17 » by **og15** » Sun Sep 3, 2023 6:31 pm

Bulking up can be tough. I know guys like Zion make it look super easy to just pack on weight :lol:

, but it can be tough for some guys.

I wouldn't criticize a players work ethic for not joining the yearly 15 lbs of muscle crew though.

nickhx2 · Post #18 » by **nickhx2** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 2:50 am

ya, definitely tough

even if you love all of it, the waiting is the hardest part

playaloc916 · Post #19 » by **playaloc916** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 4:36 pm

He might start filling out a bit after awhile in the league. Seems like the work ethic is there, but his diet probably needs adjusting. He's probably burning off all the calories while training. I know I had that problem, when I used to work out years ago, I just couldn't manage to get enough calories and don't have a big appetite, so while I got stronger, I never got bigger.

Post #20 » by **og15** » Mon Sep 4, 2023 9:33 pm

playaloc916 wrote:He might start filling out a bit after awhile in the league. Seems like the work ethic is there, but his diet probably needs adjusting. He's probably burning off all the calories while training. I know I had that problem, when I used to work out years ago, I just couldn't manage to get enough calories and don't have a big appetite, so while I got stronger, I never got bigger.

Yea, not everyone can do the eating part, I mean there's probably a reason he's as skinny as he is in the first place. Also, we can think of the strong men who part of their job and daily routine is to consume calories and they are actually forcing themselves to eat, it's so gross to me haha