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Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:22 am
by esqtvd
Since the garbage LA Times doesn't even print the standings anymore, here they are.


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Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:17 am
by esqtvd
dayum

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Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:31 pm
by NickP
I don't think I can take any more torture.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 4:26 pm
by KL2
It’ll be fun. Our guys shouldn’t have any trouble with the pace. Lue’s prepared them for this.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:17 pm
by NickP
KL2 wrote:It’ll be fun. Our guys shouldn’t have any trouble with the pace. Lue’s prepared them for this.

:) :)

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:41 pm
by Bobbymcgee
Kings coming off a tough comeback win last night against the Warriors.

Clippers coming off an embarrassing loss to the Nuggets a couple nights ago.

Hopefully the Clippers can gather whatever pride they have left and capitalize on a tired Kings team because they have to play the Warriors tomorrow night and again on Saturday afternoon.

Too Good To Be True

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 10:57 pm
by Wammy Giveaway
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And a reality check:

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Question to all: why is this still an issue? Everybody thinks that Harden needs to be benched because of his malcontent behavior and needs to learn humility. Take the thing he loves the most away from him, and have him earn it back by being a role player coming off the bench. Westbrook is prioritized because Clippers saved his career, and they are great at reclamation projects. But Clippers were obsessed with the Fantastic 4 model and its theory of being invincible, allowing power to get to their heads. Now they're in a lottery position needing every single win. And they can't let Leonard or George get ejected from a game because it will ruin their precious "Good Samaritan Spurs" image they are purposely marketing in an attempt to erase decades of the Sterling era.

This is really bad. They can't control their emotions, front office, coach and players. Even Jerry West is throwing his arms up in disgust.

Re: Too Good To Be True

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:07 pm
by esqtvd
Wammy Giveaway wrote:
And a reality check:

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Question to all: why is this still an issue? Everybody thinks that Harden needs to be benched because of his malcontent behavior and needs to learn humility. Take the thing he loves the most away from him, and have him earn it back by being a role player coming off the bench. Westbrook is prioritized because Clippers saved his career, and they are great at reclamation projects. But Clippers were obsessed with the Fantastic 4 model and its theory of being invincible, allowing power to get to their heads. Now they're in a lottery position needing every single win. And they can't let Leonard or George get ejected from a game because it will ruin their precious "Good Samaritan Spurs" image they are purposely marketing in an attempt to erase decades of the Sterling era.

This is really bad. They can't control their emotions, front office, coach and players. Even Jerry West is throwing his arms up in disgust.



I love Russ and can take or leave Beard. It pains me that the numbers say what they do. Plus/minus isn't everything but a gap this big isn't nothing, either.

    Plus/Minus per 100 possessions last 6 games:

    Harden plus+12.1
    Westbrook: minus-5.8

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Re: Too Good To Be True

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 11:54 pm
by Scoundreldays
esqtvd wrote:
Wammy Giveaway wrote:
And a reality check:

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Question to all: why is this still an issue? Everybody thinks that Harden needs to be benched because of his malcontent behavior and needs to learn humility. Take the thing he loves the most away from him, and have him earn it back by being a role player coming off the bench. Westbrook is prioritized because Clippers saved his career, and they are great at reclamation projects. But Clippers were obsessed with the Fantastic 4 model and its theory of being invincible, allowing power to get to their heads. Now they're in a lottery position needing every single win. And they can't let Leonard or George get ejected from a game because it will ruin their precious "Good Samaritan Spurs" image they are purposely marketing in an attempt to erase decades of the Sterling era.

This is really bad. They can't control their emotions, front office, coach and players. Even Jerry West is throwing his arms up in disgust.



I love Russ and can take or leave Beard. It pains me that the numbers say what they do. Plus/minus isn't everything but a gap this big isn't nothing, either.

    Plus/Minus per 100 possessions last 6 games:

    Harden plus+12.1
    Westbrook: minus-5.8

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Still blows my mind when Ty Lue had that unit in Crunch time Monday night. Going to be a rough one. Kings play fast, really fast. The type we struggle with.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:07 am
by ERClips
We’ve become a hope for the best & prepare for the worst team. Best way to help mitigate the frustration & anger 2 1/2 hours after tipoff.
Gettin to the point where I’d rather lose with our entire end of bench unit playing hard then lose with our long, sad faced starters & 4 regular subs.

That said, after Monday’s loss this game will be a defining look the teams character and resolve.

Re: Too Good To Be True

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:10 am
by esqtvd
Scoundreldays wrote:
Still blows my mind when Ty Lue had that unit in Crunch time Monday night. Going to be a rough one. Kings play fast, really fast. The type we struggle with.


Yes. But hidden in these data [and it's a very small sample], is that Harden-Russ combo is about even. It's only when you add Zubac in that it becomes a horror [minus-22].

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Zu is the slowest of the three. Critical mass. BOOM.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:11 am
by esqtvd
ooops---it's on Channel 5 too

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:14 am
by KL2
Has Zu ever won a tip?

Even the Kings announcers said Leonard was fouled on that dunk attempt. Not sure what he’s gotta do to get some whistles.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:37 am
by esqtvd
Kobe sighting!! Tucker sits.

Harden 17 points in the 1stQ. Let Beard be Beard.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:37 am
by KL2
Harden on fire. Like his aggressiveness.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:41 am
by esqtvd
KL2 wrote:Harden on fire. Like his aggressiveness.


They've been saying there is no choice but to cut Harden loose. Can't turn a thoroughbred into a pack mule. Same as making PG play PG.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:43 am
by Scoundreldays
Not gonna jinx it. Great to see some Kobe.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:05 am
by KL2
Up 18 and doing good things out there. Both ends. And I still don’t feel comfortable.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:06 am
by esqtvd
Scoundreldays wrote:Not gonna jinx it. Great to see some Kobe.


Oh, let yourself enjoy it. This is supposed to be fun. :D

Clippers by 20.

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ADD: 22.

Re: Game #17: LAC (7-9) @ SAC (10-6) WED 11/29—7 PM, NBA-TV

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:06 am
by wakelaunch1
first game with Kawhi, PG, and Harden all scoring well