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2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 4:51 am
by Captain Ballmer
This summer is going to be big one with free agency so better we have seperated draft thread.

We have only pick 46.
We can't send cash to other teams to buy another pick as we are over 2nd apron team again with cap projections.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:03 am
by Wammy Giveaway
Captain Ballmer wrote:We can't send cash to other teams to buy another pick as we are over 2nd apron team again with cap projections.


But they can send players. I'd be shocked if they do this, especially if they give up all their youth to quadruple down on the veterans-only philosophy the franchise has wholly embraced. Afraid that youth equals tanking, losing, irrelevancy.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 5:46 pm
by Captain Ballmer
Let's take a look some young bloods.

This french wing has 6'8 height, nba range from 3 and fluid lefty. His floor is like more agile Coffey while his ceiling is bigger Mann with shooting touch.


Watch on YouTube

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 5:56 pm
by Clemenza
Wammy Giveaway wrote:
Captain Ballmer wrote:We can't send cash to other teams to buy another pick as we are over 2nd apron team again with cap projections.


But they can send players. I'd be shocked if they do this, especially if they give up all their youth to quadruple down on the veterans-only philosophy the franchise has wholly embraced. Afraid that youth equals tanking, losing, irrelevancy.

Nah they know they have to get the Youngblood train rolling, stop being lazy, and embrace the future. 213 & Harden can be old but everybody else needs to be under 30. I mean L. Frank and company are saying this, but we still have to wait and see if they actually mean business instead of sitting back and relying on "old faithfuls." Our jersey sponsor should be AARP

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 3:57 pm
by ejftw
KJ Simpson
DaRon Holmes

That's my two man wishlist.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 4:26 pm
by KL2
Read on Twitter


More on him here:

https://gozags.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/anton-watson/4741

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 6:44 am
by esqtvd
Dang but the cupboard is BARE until 2030

Ballmer went all-in

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Clippers/13/draft-picks

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 7:56 am
by Clemenza
esqtvd wrote:Dang but the cupboard is BARE until 2030

Ballmer went all-in

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Clippers/13/draft-picks

That graphic isn't correct. We have our '25, '27, and '29 first round picks. They're pick swaps with OKC and Philly('29), but they don't turn into positives for OKC and Philly unless we turn into a lottery team. That's why we can't blow it up right now.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Foztsdqmo130d1.png

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 9:59 am
by esqtvd
Clemenza wrote:
esqtvd wrote:Dang but the cupboard is BARE until 2030

Ballmer went all-in

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Clippers/13/draft-picks

That graphic isn't correct. We have our '25, '27, and '29 first round picks. They're pick swaps with OKC and Philly('29), but they don't turn into positives for OKC and Philly unless we turn into a lottery team. That's why we can't blow it up right now.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Foztsdqmo130d1.png


Yes, Mr. C, the pick swaps pretty much guarantee they'll be in the high teens and probably in the 20s. And they can't even be traded because of the Stepien rule. For example, no immediate help here.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2022.html

If Ballmer wants to rebuild, he's gotta let the $$ guys go, get under the aprons, and hope to get lucky with cheaper FAs. Otherwise, run it back, aim for 50 wins and try to have fun even if a title run is unrealistic.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 3:00 pm
by Clemenza
esqtvd wrote:
Clemenza wrote:
esqtvd wrote:Dang but the cupboard is BARE until 2030

Ballmer went all-in

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Clippers/13/draft-picks

That graphic isn't correct. We have our '25, '27, and '29 first round picks. They're pick swaps with OKC and Philly('29), but they don't turn into positives for OKC and Philly unless we turn into a lottery team. That's why we can't blow it up right now.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Foztsdqmo130d1.png


Yes, Mr. C, the pick swaps pretty much guarantee they'll be in the high teens and probably in the 20s. And they can't even be traded because of the Stepien rule. For example, no immediate help here.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2022.html

If Ballmer wants to rebuild, he's gotta let the $$ guys go, get under the aprons, and hope to get lucky with cheaper FAs. Otherwise, run it back, aim for 50 wins and try to have fun even if a title run is unrealistic.

Right, I agree. I just didn't understand the "cupboard is bare" statement with the false graffic. But whatever. Let's see what happens in the off season.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 7:19 pm
by esqtvd
Clemenza wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
Clemenza wrote:That graphic isn't correct. We have our '25, '27, and '29 first round picks. They're pick swaps with OKC and Philly('29), but they don't turn into positives for OKC and Philly unless we turn into a lottery team. That's why we can't blow it up right now.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Foztsdqmo130d1.png


Yes, Mr. C, the pick swaps pretty much guarantee they'll be in the high teens and probably in the 20s. And they can't even be traded because of the Stepien rule. For example, no immediate help here.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2022.html

If Ballmer wants to rebuild, he's gotta let the $$ guys go, get under the aprons, and hope to get lucky with cheaper FAs. Otherwise, run it back, aim for 50 wins and try to have fun even if a title run is unrealistic.

Right, I agree. I just didn't understand the "cupboard is bare" statement with the false graffic. But whatever. Let's see what happens in the off season.


For the record, the chart has the specifics of the pick swaps. Not that we care about the details, lol. All we need to know is that if the draft position is any good, somebody else will get it, which makes tanking or a near-tank worthless.

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Clippers/13/draft-picks

Which is why Ballmer might just bite the bullet, pay the money, and be happy with finishing over .500 until the logjam breaks.

Retaining both George and Harden will keep the franchise in second-apron territory.

In all likelihood, LA will be limited to minimum contracts this summer. Any reasonable route to the $12.9 million non-taxpayer's mid-level exception (NTMLE) involves not re-signing a star.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10119586-examining-clippers-salary-cap-decisions-for-2024-nba-free-agency-after-mavs-loss

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:45 am
by Clemenza
esqtvd wrote:
Clemenza wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
Yes, Mr. C, the pick swaps pretty much guarantee they'll be in the high teens and probably in the 20s. And they can't even be traded because of the Stepien rule. For example, no immediate help here.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2022.html

If Ballmer wants to rebuild, he's gotta let the $$ guys go, get under the aprons, and hope to get lucky with cheaper FAs. Otherwise, run it back, aim for 50 wins and try to have fun even if a title run is unrealistic.

Right, I agree. I just didn't understand the "cupboard is bare" statement with the false graffic. But whatever. Let's see what happens in the off season.


For the record, the chart has the specifics of the pick swaps. Not that we care about the details, lol. All we need to know is that if the draft position is any good, somebody else will get it, which makes tanking or a near-tank worthless.

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Clippers/13/draft-picks

Which is why Ballmer might just bite the bullet, pay the money, and be happy with finishing over .500 until the logjam breaks.

Retaining both George and Harden will keep the franchise in second-apron territory.

In all likelihood, LA will be limited to minimum contracts this summer. Any reasonable route to the $12.9 million non-taxpayer's mid-level exception (NTMLE) involves not re-signing a star.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10119586-examining-clippers-salary-cap-decisions-for-2024-nba-free-agency-after-mavs-loss

When I looked at your link on my phone for some reason it didn't show the second part. I see it now on my laptop. My bad. We just have to run it back and hope somebody develops if given the opportunity - find a diamond in the rough.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 2:37 am
by esqtvd
Clemenza wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
Clemenza wrote:Right, I agree. I just didn't understand the "cupboard is bare" statement with the false graffic. But whatever. Let's see what happens in the off season.


For the record, the chart has the specifics of the pick swaps. Not that we care about the details, lol. All we need to know is that if the draft position is any good, somebody else will get it, which makes tanking or a near-tank worthless.

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Clippers/13/draft-picks

Which is why Ballmer might just bite the bullet, pay the money, and be happy with finishing over .500 until the logjam breaks.

Retaining both George and Harden will keep the franchise in second-apron territory.

In all likelihood, LA will be limited to minimum contracts this summer. Any reasonable route to the $12.9 million non-taxpayer's mid-level exception (NTMLE) involves not re-signing a star.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10119586-examining-clippers-salary-cap-decisions-for-2024-nba-free-agency-after-mavs-loss

When I looked at your link on my phone for some reason it didn't show the second part. I see it now on my laptop. My bad. We just have to run it back and hope somebody develops if given the opportunity - find a diamond in the rough.


Yeah, thanks. It's not a fake chart.

I was gonna run through the last 3 or 4 drafts--and maybe we should--and maybe I missed a couple but in the second 15, Maxey and Sengun are the only diamonds that jump out at me at the moment. Fewer than 10 of the 45 drafted in the 2nd half of the first round have made a 10+ ppg dent.

Of course you can hit one but the odds are bad enough and our scouting department makes it even more unlikely.

Can you believe it's been SIX YEARS since we drafted Shai???? I feel sick to my stomach. The 213 years are completely unmemorable. Ever see Waiting For Godot? He never shows up. :nonono:

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 1:35 am
by wakelaunch1
Jaedon Ledee SDSU.

Im biased and but he won the Karl Malone award for the best power forward in college basketball. Built like Blake Griffin body type. Unbelieveable work ethic and his one year transformation from last year to this year was amazing. He led SDSU to the sweet 16 and was basically a one man wrecking crew without a point guard. Hes got solid handles and would work well with Harden in the pick n roll. Can play small ball 5 in limited stretches.

https://youtu.be/jP3SIVaILMU?si=yIbnVF_D4RuCtOBf

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 2:19 am
by esqtvd
wakelaunch1 wrote:Jaedon Ledee SDSU.

Im biased and but he won the Karl Malone award for the best power forward in college basketball. Built like Blake Griffin body type. Unbelieveable work ethic and his one year transformation from last year to this year was amazing. He led SDSU to the sweet 16 and was basically a one man wrecking crew without a point guard. Hes got solid handles and would work well with Harden in the pick n roll. Can play small ball 5 in limited stretches.

https://youtu.be/jP3SIVaILMU?si=yIbnVF_D4RuCtOBf


Very interesting call. The pros and cons, which is why he might be available.

His birthday? July 25th, 1999. That means he’ll turn 25 years old shortly after the 2024 NBA Draft.


Jaedon LeDee and The Older Prospect Conundrum

Simply put, Jaedon LeDee looks and moves like an NBA four. He’s listed at 6’9” and 240 pounds. He’s built like he was carved out of granite, with a sturdy frame and broad shoulders. Most importantly, he’s willing to put these tools to work to create advantages.


https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/jaedon-ledee-and-the-older-prospect

SDSU’s Jaedon LeDee snubbed by NBA Draft combine but gets invite to G League camp

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/story/2024-05-04/san-diego-state-sdsu-aztecs-basketball-jaedon-ledee-nba-draft-combine-g-league-elite-camp-keshad-johnson

Jaedon LeDee Rising Up 2024 NBA Draft Boards

San Diego State super-senior Jaedon LeDee is someone who has flown up our mock draft, really out of nowhere. He currently ranks 35th on The Lead’s 2024 NBA Draft Board.


https://theleadsm.com/jaedon-ledee-rising-up-2024-nba-draft-boards/

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 7:19 am
by wakelaunch1
esqtvd wrote:
wakelaunch1 wrote:Jaedon Ledee SDSU.

Im biased and but he won the Karl Malone award for the best power forward in college basketball. Built like Blake Griffin body type. Unbelieveable work ethic and his one year transformation from last year to this year was amazing. He led SDSU to the sweet 16 and was basically a one man wrecking crew without a point guard. Hes got solid handles and would work well with Harden in the pick n roll. Can play small ball 5 in limited stretches.

https://youtu.be/jP3SIVaILMU?si=yIbnVF_D4RuCtOBf


Very interesting call. The pros and cons, which is why he might be available.

His birthday? July 25th, 1999. That means he’ll turn 25 years old shortly after the 2024 NBA Draft.


Jaedon LeDee and The Older Prospect Conundrum

Simply put, Jaedon LeDee looks and moves like an NBA four. He’s listed at 6’9” and 240 pounds. He’s built like he was carved out of granite, with a sturdy frame and broad shoulders. Most importantly, he’s willing to put these tools to work to create advantages.


https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/jaedon-ledee-and-the-older-prospect

SDSU’s Jaedon LeDee snubbed by NBA Draft combine but gets invite to G League camp

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/story/2024-05-04/san-diego-state-sdsu-aztecs-basketball-jaedon-ledee-nba-draft-combine-g-league-elite-camp-keshad-johnson

Jaedon LeDee Rising Up 2024 NBA Draft Boards

San Diego State super-senior Jaedon LeDee is someone who has flown up our mock draft, really out of nowhere. He currently ranks 35th on The Lead’s 2024 NBA Draft Board.


https://theleadsm.com/jaedon-ledee-rising-up-2024-nba-draft-boards/


I watched every game he played at SDSU. He is the perfect teammate. Nobody since Kawhi worked harder. His one year transformation was amazing.

Im still upset that I called that we needed to draft Trayce Jackson Davis last year. He gave GSW great minutes and would have been great for us. We had two opportunities and drafted 2 people who play positions we dont need. We need to take as many swings as possible at the 4 spot.

Jaedon did well in the Gleague invite even though they still didnt have a PG. In the NBA he will be an awesome role player who could start on the right team. His jump shot keeps getting better and I have no doubt his will continue to improve.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 2:40 pm
by KL2

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 3:51 pm
by MartinToVaught
Tominaga was fun to watch in college, but he's undersized, not athletic enough, and a cone on defense, and doesn't bring much else to the table besides threes. I can't see him making it in the NBA, especially not on a team like ours that doesn't even try to develop anyone.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 4:16 pm
by KL2
Like recent years they’re drafting for the SD Clippers.

Last time they drafted for this team? Mann 5 years ago.

Tominaga is a marketing angle anyway.

Re: 2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 7:47 pm
by wakelaunch1
if they arent a power forward than i dont want them. this team failed with the Marcus Morris trade to land a 4 and we have struggled to find rebounds and defense from a big.