GAME #13: LAC (6-6) @ HOU (8-4)—FRI 11/15 5PM

[esqtvd]

NBA Cup—Game 1 of Group Play

[Clemenza]

Awful Clipper offense played on top of a hideous bright red court

[wakelaunch1]

Lue getting outcoached. Made zero adjustments.

Team getting dumped on. Harden is a big fat zero.

Getting outrebounded by more effort.

[Bobbymcgee]

Is Houston that much better or did moving Mann to the bench ruin the Clippers rotation?

[esqtvd]

Down 20 at the half.

Not really sure who's to blame but I was sounding the alarm at the massive minutes the Big Three were playing, especially Zu. Seems to have hit the wall already the last couple games and it's only November. He's got 2 points. And Norman is 1-5 with 2 points as well. You just can't start playing 38 minutes a night if that's not you.

DJJ [0-4] is struggling too.

[esqtvd]

Is Houston that much better or did moving Mann to the bench ruin the Clippers rotation?

Chemistry and continuity were Ty's reasons for keeping Mann in there as long as he did. Dunn is keeping us in this [sort of] with 13 points while Mann is stinking it up again with 2 lousy points. I was never a Mann fan, but this is ridiculous. You just can't go out there and do NOTHING. It's like he forgot how to play.

[wakelaunch1]

this team a joke

[MartinToVaught]

It's time to fire Frank and Lue before they gift a lottery pick to OKC.

[esqtvd]

Actually, Harden has 21 points on 7-14 shooting. Blame EVERYONE else first.

They just flashed up on the screen, this makes 5 games in 8 days. And we play Sunday, Munday, Wednesday and Friday. Still down by 20, made up no ground against the Rockets' bench.

So here comes Jordan and Kobe and the white flag with a whole quarter to go. Let's see if we can win Garbage Time again and at least put a scare into 'em.

[Clemenza]

It's time to fire Frank and Lue before they gift a lottery pick to OKC.

That pick is as good as gone if Kawhi doesn't come back by January.

[wakelaunch1]

Actually, Harden has 21 points on 7-14 shooting. Blame EVERYONE else first.

They just flashed up on the screen, this makes 5 games in 8 days. And we play Sunday, Munday, Wednesday and Friday. Still down by 20, made up no ground against the Rockets' bench.

So here comes Jordan and Kobe and the white flag with a whole quarter to go. Let's see if we can win Garbage Time again and at least put a scare into 'em.

Telling me you arent watching the game. Harden was barely getting the ball past half court. 5 turnovers, getting ran by on defense.

He looked old, slow, and no lift. Everything else fell apart after that. The defense/rebounding as a team was god awful

[esqtvd]

Actually, Harden has 21 points on 7-14 shooting. Blame EVERYONE else first.

They just flashed up on the screen, this makes 5 games in 8 days. And we play Sunday, Munday, Wednesday and Friday. Still down by 20, made up no ground against the Rockets' bench.

So here comes Jordan and Kobe and the white flag with a whole quarter to go. Let's see if we can win Garbage Time again and at least put a scare into 'em.

Telling me you arent watching the game. Harden was barely getting the ball past half court. 5 turnovers, getting ran by on defense.

He looked old, slow, and no lift. Everything else fell apart after that. The defense/rebounding as a team was god awful

And the point is, everyone else was worse. We even lost Garbage Time.

[Roscoe Sheed]

over the years it seems like poor shooting teams suddenly get hot when they play the Clippers. Seriously- FVV and Brooks were looking like Ray Allen out there.

This Houston team reminds me of those Pelican teams that would just run them off the court- the Clippers don't have enough athleticism to compete against these young teams.

[Captain Ballmer]

It's time to fire Frank and Lue before they gift a lottery pick to OKC.

That pick is as good as gone if Kawhi doesn't come back by January.

And who the coach or GM are irrelevant for that. Get somewhat peak Kawhi soon or be a 30-35 win team to gift OKC another top 10 pick.

[Clemenza]

It's time to fire Frank and Lue before they gift a lottery pick to OKC.

That pick is as good as gone if Kawhi doesn't come back by January.

And who the coach or GM are irrelevant for that. Get somewhat peak Kawhi soon or be a 30-35 win team to gift OKC another top 10 pick.

Its all good though. They have their core and even have a couple of top prospects stashed away for next year. I have no clue what they're going to do with 30-something picks for the next five years when you already have a championship type core and can only have 15 players on your roster. For example: If they don't go after a Giannis and offer of 5-6 first round picks for him then they're going to be drafting and then waiving a lot of players coming up. You can't add/absorb 3-4 new draft picks every year with a 15 man roster that's damn near set for a title run. If they get our pick we still have a first rounder but it'll be in the 25-29 range in the first round. Maybe we add Norm to that pick and move up into the teens. We'll see.

[Clemenza]

Awful Houston 2-step. Wish we could've forfeited the games, stayed in LA, and rested everybody. I'm tempted to say the Rockets are simply a really bad matchup for us like how New Orleans usually are, but we looked so old and washed against them like like it comes off that maybe we just suck, I don't know. We all knew Harden, Zu, and Powell with 30+ minutes every night all month long were going to tail off sooner than later. For this thing to work somebody had to step up. Norm did but that was semi-expected. With Kawhi in street clothes, out of KPJ, Coffey, Mann, Zu, Miller, Kobe, etc. One of these guys had to become the next thing for the team if we were going to be successful and make the playoffs. I think Miller and KPJ still have a shot but for the rest of the guys its business as usual.

I actually thought we'd get some mid range and a few three pointers from Zu this season, but nope. Had Mann starting but for some reason it was okay that he didn't score. Dunn is good but he's a role player. I was hoping KPJ would break out by now since were 13 games into the season, nope. I think Jordan Miller can become something, but as we all know, this isn't the team for that. You have to make a name elsewhere and then maybe we'll chase you. Whatever though. Lue still tinkering, but he should've stumbled upon some type of "ray of hope" by now, but nope. Its like he's tinkering with a train set but still doesn't have an engine to make it work halfway decent. Just rambling

[Captain Ballmer]

That pick is as good as gone if Kawhi doesn't come back by January.

And who the coach or GM are irrelevant for that. Get somewhat peak Kawhi soon or be a 30-35 win team to gift OKC another top 10 pick.

Its all good though. They have their core and even have a couple of top prospects stashed away for next year. I have no clue what they're going to do with 30-something picks for the next five years when you already have a championship type core and can only have 15 players on your roster. For example: If they don't go after a Giannis and offer of 5-6 first round picks for him then they're going to be drafting and then waiving a lot of players coming up. You can't add/absorb 3-4 new draft picks every year with a 15 man roster that's damn near set for a title run. If they get our pick we still have a first rounder but it'll be in the 25-29 range in the first round. Maybe we add Norm to that pick and move up into the teens. We'll see.

To be honest, OKC can do anything with their options if any star wanted out.

If kawhi isn't coming to this season, first thing we should do is to call GM's who might want to take a look at DJJ, Dunn, Norman. Batum darling can leave anywhere he wants without even compensation returned.

What's the point if you are capped at 35 win, so be it make that cap at 30 win. Get some young talent or future draft picks from contenders who would like to bolster their rotation. I would even deal Zu to OKC(If chet not coming this season, they might be a buyer)for getting our 2025 pick swap back. Be a 20 win team, get top 4 lottery odd from this top heavy draft.

Norm can get a protected late first pick. DJJ and Dunn maybe returns a 2nd and a prospect stayed under shadows like Jarace Walker, Cam Whitmore, Zach LaRavia etc.

[Clemenza]

And who the coach or GM are irrelevant for that. Get somewhat peak Kawhi soon or be a 30-35 win team to gift OKC another top 10 pick.

Its all good though. They have their core and even have a couple of top prospects stashed away for next year. I have no clue what they're going to do with 30-something picks for the next five years when you already have a championship type core and can only have 15 players on your roster. For example: If they don't go after a Giannis and offer of 5-6 first round picks for him then they're going to be drafting and then waiving a lot of players coming up. You can't add/absorb 3-4 new draft picks every year with a 15 man roster that's damn near set for a title run. If they get our pick we still have a first rounder but it'll be in the 25-29 range in the first round. Maybe we add Norm to that pick and move up into the teens. We'll see.

To be honest, OKC can do anything with their options if any star wanted out.

If kawhi isn't coming to this season, first thing we should do is to call GM's who might want to take a look at DJJ, Dunn, Norman. Batum darling can leave anywhere he wants without even compensation returned.

What's the point if you are capped at 35 win, so be it make that cap at 30 win. Get some young talent or future draft picks from contenders who would like to bolster their rotation. I would even deal Zu to OKC(If chet not coming this season, they might be a buyer)for getting our 2025 pick swap back. Be a 20 win team, get top 4 lottery odd from this top heavy draft.

Norm can get a protected late first pick. DJJ and Dunn maybe returns a 2nd and a prospect stayed under shadows like Jarace Walker, Cam Whitmore, Zach LaRavia etc.

I hear you and since your name is "Captain Ballmer", I highly doubt Ballmer wants to do anything like that. Intuit Dome isn't a smashing success right out the but if we do a fire sale its going to be crickets in that place. The number one issue is, when and if Kawhi is coming back. Its still early, but if he doesn't make it back by all star break, they really REALLY screwed up going after this guy, and resigning him to four more years. Get Diabate and BBJ back asap!! LOL

[Captain Ballmer]

Its all good though. They have their core and even have a couple of top prospects stashed away for next year. I have no clue what they're going to do with 30-something picks for the next five years when you already have a championship type core and can only have 15 players on your roster. For example: If they don't go after a Giannis and offer of 5-6 first round picks for him then they're going to be drafting and then waiving a lot of players coming up. You can't add/absorb 3-4 new draft picks every year with a 15 man roster that's damn near set for a title run. If they get our pick we still have a first rounder but it'll be in the 25-29 range in the first round. Maybe we add Norm to that pick and move up into the teens. We'll see.

To be honest, OKC can do anything with their options if any star wanted out.

If kawhi isn't coming to this season, first thing we should do is to call GM's who might want to take a look at DJJ, Dunn, Norman. Batum darling can leave anywhere he wants without even compensation returned.

What's the point if you are capped at 35 win, so be it make that cap at 30 win. Get some young talent or future draft picks from contenders who would like to bolster their rotation. I would even deal Zu to OKC(If chet not coming this season, they might be a buyer)for getting our 2025 pick swap back. Be a 20 win team, get top 4 lottery odd from this top heavy draft.

Norm can get a protected late first pick. DJJ and Dunn maybe returns a 2nd and a prospect stayed under shadows like Jarace Walker, Cam Whitmore, Zach LaRavia etc.

I hear you and since your name is "Captain Ballmer", I highly doubt Ballmer wants to do anything like that. Intuit Dome isn't a smashing success right out the but if we do a fire sale its going to be crickets in that place. The number one issue is, when and if Kawhi is coming back. Its still early, but if he doesn't make it back by all star break, they really REALLY screwed up going after this guy, and resigning him to four more years. Get Diabate and BBJ back asap!! LOL

I'm not suggesting a fire sale. Zubac is the defensive pillar, Harden is offensive one. Theye are here to stay keep the games as pro as possible. We can replace Dunn with more Mann, Norm with more KPJ&Bones, DJJ with more Coffey and Jordan Miller etc. and still capable of doing what we are at least like %80 capacity.

Emitionally I think most of our fanbase are attached to Zu, Mann, Batum and Coffey way more than they do with DJJ, Dunn, Norm. They will be fine as long as we get some exciting talent in return.

In a nutshell, without Kawhi it's better to not stand pat in February, exchange from 35 win team with Norm&DJJ&Dunn to decrease to the 28-30 win team with some added future draft capital and maybe under the radar young prospects & expirings.

[MartinToVaught]

It's time to fire Frank and Lue before they gift a lottery pick to OKC.

That pick is as good as gone if Kawhi doesn't come back by January.

And who the coach or GM are irrelevant for that. Get somewhat peak Kawhi soon or be a 30-35 win team to gift OKC another top 10 pick.

I'm pretty sure we can do better than this:

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