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GAME #49: LAC (28-20) @ TOR (15-33) — SUN, 2/2 2:30 PM

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GAME #49: LAC (28-20) @ TOR (15-33) — SUN, 2/2 2:30 PM 

Post#1 » by TrueLAfan » Sun Feb 2, 2025 5:51 pm

When: Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 3:30 PM ET
Where: Scotiabank Arena in Toronto, Ontario
TV: SportsNet and FDSSC


New guys not here yet--hope we can keep the momentum going!

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Re: GAME #49: LAC (28-20) @ TOR (15-33) — SUN, 2/2 2:30 PM 

Post#2 » by KL2 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:25 pm

Not to take anything from Toronto but Clippers are messing around and about to find out.

Mann playing like he doesn’t want to get traded.
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Post#3 » by Ballings7 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:29 pm

"Oh yeah, there are some games today..."

Keep stacking those wins.

Kawhi back in Toronto, should be another strong-ish game and doubling as further tune up.
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Post#4 » by Ballings7 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:33 pm

Ah Norm' is resting

Harden about to have a night it appears
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Re: GAME #49: LAC (28-20) @ TOR (15-33) — SUN, 2/2 2:30 PM 

Post#5 » by KL2 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:03 pm

Leonard’s worse game. Even Zu looks out of sync.

Not feeling this one at all.

Clippers should be embarrassed by this performance,
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Re: GAME #49: LAC (28-20) @ TOR (15-33) — SUN, 2/2 2:30 PM 

Post#6 » by wakelaunch1 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:18 pm

Pull Harden. he must have went out last night. Hes been trash today
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Re: GAME #49: LAC (28-20) @ TOR (15-33) — SUN, 2/2 2:30 PM 

Post#7 » by KL2 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:33 pm

I appreciate Leonard diving on the floor but noooooo.

Outside of Mann and maybe Coffey the team looks lifeless out there.

We don’t even have a bench to inject some energy out there.
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Post#8 » by wakelaunch1 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:35 pm

We started to go on a little run and then Harden comes back in and we fall apart. One of his worst games this season as a Clipper
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Re: GAME #49: LAC (28-20) @ TOR (15-33) — SUN, 2/2 2:30 PM 

Post#9 » by KL2 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:50 pm

Burn the tape.

Better hope Norm, Dunn, and new guys can be ready Tuesday.
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Post#10 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:15 pm

Kawhi just couldn't get it going unfortunately. He was moving decently, so I hope it isn't his knee acting up again and it was just a poor shooting effort. Zubac's post game wasn't really working either and Harden missed so many key 3s that would have kept the momentum going.

Toronto is much better than their overall record though- they are at least a .500 team if healthy- Barrett always seems to play well against the Clippers, Poetl is a poor man's Zubac, and Barnes has all star level talent. Dick is a solid player too. Seemed like every 50/50 play went their way though and they hit every key perimeter shot
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Post#11 » by Ballings7 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 1:10 am

Just didn't have it tonight and not enough, and yes Toronto has been playing better in the new year. They do have some legit talent, and solid role guys. I thought Kawhi would play somewhat better.

End of a long-ish cross-coast road trip too.

Missing Norm' didn't help, adds an extra dimension for sure. Also definitely miss Dunn out there as a controller defensively, and quick cutter/slasher offensively.

Got the Lakers next at home, but short-handed.. no AD or Luka, gotta get that one.
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Post#12 » by esqtvd » Mon Feb 3, 2025 3:01 am

KPJ: 25 minutes, 17/5/6. That's a REAL statline, and why he keeps getting minutes.
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Post#13 » by Ballings7 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 1:59 am

esqtvd wrote:KPJ: 25 minutes, 17/5/6. That's a REAL statline, and why he keeps getting minutes.


Yep

Dude can play and has multi-skill talent.. has made up for Mann offensively, and is capable of having a big-ish game most nights. Still on that KPJ train.
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Post#14 » by esqtvd » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:37 am

Ballings7 wrote:
esqtvd wrote:KPJ: 25 minutes, 17/5/6. That's a REAL statline, and why he keeps getting minutes.


Yep

Dude can play and has multi-skill talent.. has made up for Mann offensively, and is capable of having a big-ish game most nights. Still on that KPJ train.


We all know KPJ's inconsistent and sometimes downright craptastic. But he can move the meter. Mann has given up on all that. And he's 2 years older and twice as expensive.
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Post#15 » by Roscoe Sheed » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:46 pm

It's kind of sad that Mann never really progressed as a player. He is quite athletic and has the potential to be much more of an offensive threat but for whatever reason he never really developed that aspect of his game. I think they need to move him for a better player- back up point guard or center
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Post#16 » by esqtvd » Tue Feb 4, 2025 7:11 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:It's kind of sad that Mann never really progressed as a player. He is quite athletic and has the potential to be much more of an offensive threat but for whatever reason he never really developed that aspect of his game. I think they need to move him for a better player- back up point guard or center


Mann decided to become a Swiss Army knife journeyman who doesn't hurt you out there and he got himself PAID. $15M a year GUARANTEED. Very rare accomplishment for a #48 pick.

This year, he seems to have fallen off the map. Coffey [$4M a year, undrafted in the same draft] has finally caught him and is getting his minutes, along with Dunn and KPJ [who is still on probation, but shows a higher ceiling]. He's not a needle-mover but I still think he could help a thin roster desperate for 20+ credible NBA minutes. But he's redundant here.

He's bigger than Norman, but unlike Norman, he never learned how to use the glass. He gets stuffed so often at the rim that he's gunshy and just mostly kicks it back out now. Coupled with a reluctance to take even open jumpers, he's thoroughly frustrating to his teammates and gunks up the offense by ruining the flow.

Mann is last in +/- of any regular. When you're LAST, there's nobody below you to blame it on.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?PerMode=Per100Possessions&TeamID=1610612746&dir=A&sort=PLUS_MINUS
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