Bogdonovich for Mann, Bones, 3 Second Round Picks

[TrueLAfan]

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[clipsfever]

Bog Bog has a decreasing contract, $16mil next year and a club option for the season after at the same number
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/15379/bogdan-bogdanovic/contract/summary

[Max Headrom]

And save money. Mann disappointed me so much...

[clipsfever]

And KPJ got a ticket to early February Wisconsin

Bench

Dunn / Mills
Coffey / Miller
Bog Bog / Beauchamp? (staying?)
Batum / Kobe
Zubanks / Kai

[MartinToVaught]

Getting a few draft picks and moving on from KPJ are really the only positives of the deadline. Bogdanovic is on the wrong side of 30 and washed. Beauchamp will probably get waived, but is never going to play either way. We've officially ruined Mann beyond repair and continue our legacy as the worst player development team in the NBA. We're still spinning our wheels in mediocrity.

[TrueLAfan]

This is a great move.

I’ll miss TMann; he was a nice Swiss army knife player. But Boggy is just better. He scores much more and better. He’s a better defender than he gets credit for--he moves his feet well and has a great wingspan. He’s a good passer that doesn’t make mistakes with the ball. There’s a reason he’s been in 6MOY voting two of the last three years. And I absolutely don't think he's washed; Quin Snyder is down on him, but I personally think Snyder is underwhelming in every way, so I’ve got no problem with that. Bogdan can give us 25 good minutes a game.We just got better across the board.

[Clipp312s]

Ultimate Addition by Subtraction move. Bye KPJ!!! Good riddance. I'm a big fan of this years team, and KPJ was the one thorn that I couldn't stand! Literally wanted to break my TV every time he played.

I'm liking all the moved we've made. Solidifies our bench, well balanced, and now we can actually give Jordan Miller a contract. Bogi addition is Mid because he's been so hurt all the time and inconsistent. When he's on, he's lethal, just not sure which version we're getting. Suck to give up Mann, but he's definitely taken a step back. I think we have the attachment because he's a homegrown 2nd round pick and gave us 39 points leading to our first ever WCF, but i'm not mad about this move. 3 2nd Round Picks are valuable given how well we've drafted in the 2nd round vs 1st recently.

Rotation looks a lot stronger and defined with these moves:

PG: Harden, Dunn, Patty
SG: Norm, Bogi, Jordan Miller
SF: Kawhi, Amir, Bauchamp
PF: DJJ, Batum, Kobe
C: Zubac, Eubanks, Kai

[Clemenza]

Much less clutter and player overlap now. Gonna miss Mann, but it was the right move to move him. Bones has to show and prove in ATL. His career is on the line. Hope Bogi can knock down some shots for us. MarJon Bauchamp is supposedly a bust in Milwaukee. Not sure if he gets a chance with us or even plays. Not fond of Ben Simmons but it looks like he's coming if he gets bought out. I think we open up another roster spot if we wave Patty Mills or Bauchamp. Would like to see Trentyn Flowers on the main roster for good. We'll see what happens

[playaloc916]

Got rid of a few players that was hard to justify giving minutes to. I'm a bit sad about Mann, but more disappointed that he never lived up to all of our expectations, despite having a lot of opportunities to solidify himself as an important piece.

I know I'm in the minority, but I'm also disappointed the team got rid of KPJ. For all his faults, he still was pretty productive, especially when you factor in his salary. Oh well, hopefully Miller gets a contract as well as more consistent minutes.

Still need to get another big, maybe from the buyout market. This trade deadline felt more like an extension of "addition by subtraction", which I'm okay with.

[wakelaunch1]

i think with the way the stars are playing we will be a play in team at best and a first round exit. We are just not that athletic with Harden/Kawhi

[ClipOnTheEar]

I think we absolutely killed it so far.

It seems like the main aim for the FO was to get under the threshold to sign buyout players that were earning over the MLE.

I feel we can only judge the front office once the buyout market has been and done.

Looking at what's out there: Potentially Ben Simmons as a Draymond style PF. Kelly Olynyk who was being shopped pre deadline for a first rounder. Bruce Brown who is TMann but with championship pedigree. Nurkic who would be a servicable Kai replacement (assuming Kai is cut). And there's probably tonnes of players I can't recall straight up. These are all players who will make our rotation better than what it was pre-deadline. And the cost of this was a single 2RP in the trade that got us a servicable big, all an-time NBA legend in Patty, and also blasted PJ Tucker a million **** miles from our team, never to be seen again.

We also managed to get off TMann's contract, get three 2RPs, and give the 2nd unit more firepower in a single trade.

These are all shrewd moves. Not flashy moves. But shrewd moves.

Addition by subtraction.

[MartinToVaught]

I know I'm in the minority, but I'm also disappointed the team got rid of KPJ. For all his faults, he still was pretty productive, especially when you factor in his salary. Oh well, hopefully Miller gets a contract as well as more consistent minutes.

He was "productive" in that he could get his stats, but watching how he got them was infuriating. I don't think KPJ will ever be a winning player. This was already his third chance to prove he could grow up and fit in to the team concept and he still can't do it.

Luckily for Bucks fans, he's only 24. If he was 34, Doc would enable him and let him chuck to his heart's content like he did with Jamal and Austin.

[KL2]

Love this deal. I’ve been down on Mann for a while. Bogi is the better player in every way. I’ll trust the Clippers are not concerned about his health right now. He’ll fit right in with the second unit. Save money and get 3 second round picks? Thank you.

Not sure I understand the KPJ - beauchamp one as much as the first. Saves money and a flyer on Bauchamp?

Opens up a roster spot which sounds like it’s for Ben Simmons.

You can easily waive beauchamp and/or Mills if you need to for other buyouts.

[og15]

Great deal Bones is not a winning player. Mann is not that much younger than Bogi anyways, but his skills have been made somewhat redundant with all the players added. Bogi brings a different skillset. He's had a tough year with ATL, but lots of guys are able to bounce back in a different situation.

Also multiple 2nds are great.

Getting a few draft picks and moving on from KPJ are really the only positives of the deadline. Bogdanovic is on the wrong side of 30 and washed. Beauchamp will probably get waived, but is never going to play either way. We've officially ruined Mann beyond repair and continue our legacy as the worst player development team in the NBA. We're still spinning our wheels in mediocrity.

just living in the sadness

The Clippers ruined a guy who was a 23 year old rokie 48th pick that they developed into a rotation player / part time starter in the league because he was traded at 28 when the team acquired multiple guys that could perform similar function lol

Mann exceeded his expectations as an NBA prospect, maxed out his ability as an NBA player, and simply couldn't be more than he was. I sometimes wonder what reality we are living in. Probably because he had that one big game vs Utah, people went wild, but we forget to check how many guys have had little moments.

Boobie Gibson 31 pts to get game 7 for Cleveland vs the Pistons and push them to the finals. Leon Powe 21 pts in 14.5 minutes in game 2 to help Boston go up 2-0 in the finals. Caleb Martin pulled off a who series vs the Celtics to help Miami get to the finals. Sooooo..sooo many. When we don't have short memories about this stuff, we have better perspective.

[Ballings7]

I do like getting Bogdanovich.. just have to see if he can get right in terms of his shot back on a better team, and health-wise.

Mann over time just didn't perform as he was expected to the last yea or two. Maybe he can get better elsewhere but if he wants to stick around he needs to be more aggressive offensively.

I guess getting rid of KPJ was about freeing up time for the younger players, and maybe taking a flyer on Beauchamp, and saving a bit of money. KPJ overall I liked what he brought to the team, he was reliable as a playmaker and scorer off the bench, and an athletic defender. Surprising move.

Bones, just there wasn't really the opportunity usually. He had that at the beginning of the 23-24 season but then Harden came in and basically ended that.

Getting the 2nd round picks is nice for sure.

Not opposed to Ben Simmons at all at this point, if that is a situation developing on the buyout market.. as long as he's fairly healthy, better hybrid forward with size at PF, than anyone else on the roster apart from Batum - Ben just still can't shoot or consistently finish it seems. Bigger version of Westbrook with better playmaking decisions, less jumpers, but without the soul I guess.

No Jalen Smith or Chris Boucher, at least for now.. still really need a bigger forward with some decent size past Batum and Kawhi.

Overall just gonna have to see how things go. Interesting.

[og15]

I do like getting Bogdanovich.. just have to see if he can get right in terms of his shot back on a better team, and health-wise.

Mann over time just didn't perform as he was expected to the last yea or two. Maybe he can get better elsewhere but if he wants to stick around he needs to be more aggressive offensively.

I guess getting rid of KPJ was about freeing up time for the younger players, and maybe taking a flyer on Beauchamp, and saving a bit of money. KPJ overall I liked what he brought to the team, he was reliable as a playmaker and scorer off the bench, and an athletic defender. Surprising move.

Bones, just there wasn't really the opportunity usually. He had that at the beginning of the 23-24 season but then Harden came in and basically ended that.

Getting the 2nd round picks is nice for sure.

Not opposed to Ben Simmons at all at this point, if that is a situation developing on the buyout market.. as long as he's fairly healthy, better hybrid forward with size at PF, than anyone else on the roster apart from Batum - Ben just still can't shoot or consistently finish it seems. Bigger version of Westbrook with better playmaking decisions, less jumpers, but without the soul I guess.

No Jalen Smith or Chris Boucher, at least for now.. still really need a bigger forward with some decent size past Batum and Kawhi.

Overall just gonna have to see how things go. Interesting.

KPJ is a younger player. KPJ just still has fine tuning to do as a positive winning player. Then you look at 24.5% 3PT, 64.5% FT and 3.4 to/36, definitely not a very good performance in his almost 900 minutes. He's not a guy you can for example, trust on the floor in a playoff series.

Bogi gives you a guy who isn't going to hurt you, but also has the scoring skills to put up a big performance.

[LamarWho]

Finally we got rid of the two most unwatchable players on the team. I always like Bogdan's game, very versatile combo guard. I hope we keep Beauchamp, from what I heard he's a terrific defender, kinda like a Matise Thybulle.

Good luck to Bones. He never got consistent playing time here to prove himself.

[Ballings7]

I do like getting Bogdanovich.. just have to see if he can get right in terms of his shot back on a better team, and health-wise.

Mann over time just didn't perform as he was expected to the last yea or two. Maybe he can get better elsewhere but if he wants to stick around he needs to be more aggressive offensively.

I guess getting rid of KPJ was about freeing up time for the younger players, and maybe taking a flyer on Beauchamp, and saving a bit of money. KPJ overall I liked what he brought to the team, he was reliable as a playmaker and scorer off the bench, and an athletic defender. Surprising move.

Bones, just there wasn't really the opportunity usually. He had that at the beginning of the 23-24 season but then Harden came in and basically ended that.

Getting the 2nd round picks is nice for sure.

Not opposed to Ben Simmons at all at this point, if that is a situation developing on the buyout market.. as long as he's fairly healthy, better hybrid forward with size at PF, than anyone else on the roster apart from Batum - Ben just still can't shoot or consistently finish it seems. Bigger version of Westbrook with better playmaking decisions, less jumpers, but without the soul I guess.

No Jalen Smith or Chris Boucher, at least for now.. still really need a bigger forward with some decent size past Batum and Kawhi.

Overall just gonna have to see how things go. Interesting.

KPJ is a younger player. KPJ just still has fine tuning to do as a positive winning player. Then you look at 24.5% 3PT, 64.5% FT and 3.4 to/36, definitely not a very good performance in his almost 900 minutes. He's not a guy you can for example, trust on the floor in a playoff series.

Bogi gives you a guy who isn't going to hurt you, but also has the scoring skills to put up a big performance.

Agreed KPJ is a younger player but he's already a veteran - so what I meant was guys like Flowers, Brown (in NBA years, I know he's an older 2nd year player), and Miller would either play more this year or the following year.

KPJ does still have to get better, yes. I just think he could of really done that on this team.

[KL2]

Still not official so no comments from Lue and company yet.

[madmaxmedia]

Many teams made bigger and better moves, but they had assets to do it. I like our moves in a vacuum especially Bogdan, salary wise our team is in good shape. We just have to do the best we can with our roster and draft pick situation going forward and hope for the best.

At least we're not the Phoenix Suns LOL.