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He has signed with us.

Championship?

Quake Griffin wrote:He has signed with us.

Championship?

What's the over/under that Kawhi remains healthy and plays a full slate of games in the regular season and playoffs?

Bradley Beal is not the guy to add and say championship, and any of that kind of stuff depends on Kawhi's health anyways.

That said, it works well for the win now short term roster. Team swapped Norm for Collins and Beal which is a good swap.

Beal is no superstar, never has been, but many have swung the pendulum too far on how good he is or is not based on the Phoenix stint, and their lack of success.

He's not 35 years old, he will just be 32, and people are saying he's washed as if he can't move anymore or became super inefficient or something

Per 36 he was at 19/4/5 on 51/41 as the third option, those are perfectly good numbers for the context, but the fit was not very good overall on Phoenix and should be better as a Clipper.

I'm excited for both Collins and Beal joining the Clippers.

At minimum, both should be motivated to play well for financial reasons.

He is easily our best playmaker after James Harden.

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he is definitely an underrated passer- has averaged as much as 6.6 APG.

On the GB people are saying he is a terrible defender. I've never thought of him as being a poor defender- not great, but average when he puts his mind to it, but I haven't watched him that carefully of late. If he is a poor defender, that could make the pairing with Harden problematic. May need to stagger them somewhat.

I say we pass on CP3. The roster is good as is right now imo.

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Captain Ballmer wrote:He is easily our best playmaker after James Harden.

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he is definitely an underrated passer- has averaged as much as 6.6 APG.

On the GB people are saying he is a terrible defender. I've never thought of him as being a poor defender- not great, but average when he puts his mind to it, but I haven't watched him that carefully of late. If he is a poor defender, that could make the pairing with Harden problematic. May need to stagger them somewhat.

I completely agree about the playmaking. I think Beal is more or less equivalent to Dunn--which means he's fine to run an offense. It's another reason why CP3 probably (IMO) isn't the right guy for a vet minimum. Bogie and Kawhi will probably get us 7+ apg, and with Harden, Dunn, and Beal, I'm really not seeing a need for another PG.

Beal has been a lousy defender for a couple of years--but he's also had a couple of nagging injuries that hurt his lateral movement and made him reach/foul a little more. And I wonder about the defensive setup Bud put into place in Phoenix. They were a terrible defensive team last year with or without Beal and, given the lineup, that doesn't totally make sense. Something doesn't add up from a team perspective. Anyway, I'm hoping Beal is a little healthier and a little quicker--he was a good defender when young and, while he'll probably never get back to that level, we can hope that he can be more effective than he has been for the last few years. No guarantees, though.

If Beard and Beal can't/won't defend, and Dunn is in one of his shooting slumps where he becomes near-unplayable... maybe having a Delon Wright at the end of the bench would make sense.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45758601/how-bradley-beal-phoenix-suns-finalized-their-contentious-divorce

The Clippers were one of the teams that had already shown interest in Beal and were on his short list. When the Powell deal happened, talks accelerated, sources said. Clippers owner Steve Ballmer and head coach Ty Lue, who as a native of Mexico, Missouri, has a long relationship with St. Louis native Beal, spoke to Beal about what the Clippers could offer.

But the key voice came from James Harden, who lobbied the Clippers' front office to chase Beal and then reached out to him directly to make the sale, sources said.

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In the end, the Clippers turned Powell and their midlevel exception into Lopez, Beal and Collins this summer, building the depth they sought. With Collins in the final year of his contract, at $27 million, and the Clippers holding team options on Bogdan Bogdanovic, Nico Batum and Lopez, they are in position to have enough cap space to offer a maximum contract next summer, if they so choose.

Good to get Beal

I think he can be really good and play a latter career Ray Allen-style role. Hit open jumpers, slash when its not there otherwise. If he gets run off his jumper its not an issue and can do multiple things with the ball. Be solid as can be on defense.

Team does need that offensive punch without Norm. If Beal wasn't brought in, wouldn't be terrible.. but definitely would lean on Collins to step up more as the x-factor. Ideally Collins can do that, but would be different.

I don't think the team needs CP3, and question the fit. I mean, it could end up being a blessing if there's some issue if he is brought in.

Maybe overstating it but staying competitive. And Ballmerville continues to be a destination.

esqtvd wrote:Maybe overstating it but staying competitive. And Ballmerville continues to be a destination.

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How we ended up in 213 hell can be debated forever, but the Clippers have truly made some pretty good lemonade the last 2 offseasons.

Giving up 2 more years of draft pick control for James Harden was rough, but James has been an outstanding Clipper and the reason why we're a playoff team post-213. To be a 50 win level team while maintaining forward cap flexibility has been a pretty amazing accomplishment. We have been under the gun on both salary cap and draft pick control, and at least the cap space situation is starting to get resolved.

clipsfever wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45758601/how-bradley-beal-phoenix-suns-finalized-their-contentious-divorce

In the end, the Clippers turned Powell and their midlevel exception into Lopez, Beal and Collins this summer, building the depth they sought. With Collins in the final year of his contract, at $27 million, and the Clippers holding team options on Bogdan Bogdanovic, Nico Batum and Lopez, they are in position to have enough cap space to offer a maximum contract next summer, if they so choose.

Having cap space doesn't guarantee anything, but to actually be in the position of being able to offer a max contract next summer is pretty amazing, considering Kawhi will still have one year left on his deal.

Official now.

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esqtvd wrote:Maybe overstating it but staying competitive. And Ballmerville continues to be a destination.

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How we ended up in 213 hell can be debated forever, but the Clippers have truly made some pretty good lemonade the last 2 offseasons.

Giving up 2 more years of draft pick control for James Harden was rough, but James has been an outstanding Clipper and the reason why we're a playoff team post-213. To be a 50 win level team while maintaining forward cap flexibility has been a pretty amazing accomplishment. We have been under the gun on both salary cap and draft pick control, and at least the cap space situation is starting to get resolved.

clipsfever wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45758601/how-bradley-beal-phoenix-suns-finalized-their-contentious-divorce

In the end, the Clippers turned Powell and their midlevel exception into Lopez, Beal and Collins this summer, building the depth they sought. With Collins in the final year of his contract, at $27 million, and the Clippers holding team options on Bogdan Bogdanovic, Nico Batum and Lopez, they are in position to have enough cap space to offer a maximum contract next summer, if they so choose.

Having cap space doesn't guarantee anything, but to actually be in the position of being able to offer a max contract next summer is pretty amazing, considering Kawhi will still have one year left on his deal.

Yea, credit where credit is due, they clearly have a plan and they have done well to make solid decisions to keep up flexibility.

We know ownership isn't interested in tanking or anything like that, and flexibility is what is needed to work with that kind of plan.

As I have been this time of year for 25 years (OMG it may be closer to 30 now), I'm optimistic for a great season and a WCF berth!