i just realized how good the clippers can be next year

bulldogcharly · Post #1 » by **bulldogcharly** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 7:01 pm

brand and livingston will come back. brand and maggette will probably stay because no other team can give them more money than the clippers other than maybe the grizzlies who wouldn't do it because they want more youth.

then you have the lottery pick the clippers will get AND if somehow minny gets the 11th - 14th pick in the lottery, the clippers will get their pick too. it'll most likely not happen, but theres still a chance. teams with the worst record in the NBA have gotten like 5-10 picks so it is possible.

imagine having kaman, brand, thornton, mayo or gordon, livingston as our starting line up. we'll probably trade maggette away and get some good bench players so thornton can develop and get more playing time. we'll also probably look to trade mobley away so we can start some young players at the 2. if we dont trade mobley then he'll probably come off the bench.

if we get minnys pick i dont even know who we'd choose or who we need. but yeah the clippers future is looking much better especially since a few teams will start to fall off like the suns who arent looking good since the shaq trade and the spurs whos age will probably catch up to them.

SonicYouth34 · Post #2 » by **SonicYouth34** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 2:32 am

Minny's pick is gonna stay Minny's pick for the next few years.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #3 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 7:00 pm

if the xclippers end up with a top 6 pick they'd better take eric gordon over oj mayo. rose would be best though. or beasley. keep thornton as 6th man, s&t mags or let him walk.

mj_shoefanatic · Post #4 » by **mj_shoefanatic** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:53 pm

^Who the hell are the xclippers? :-?

Post #5 » by **loflin3hree5ive** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:06 pm

i'm not sure who the xclippers are but i agree that we should take gordon over mayo if we have the chance.

illastrate · Post #6 » by **illastrate** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:04 am

If we get Bayless, that would be awesome.

And should a miracle happen and we get Minny's pick, draft Chase Budinger. There's your 'Zona connection teaming up with Thornton, Kaman, Brand, and Livingston. One can dream, right?

bulldogcharly · Post #7 » by **bulldogcharly** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:23 am

why would we need rose or beasley? beasley is like the last thing we need. if we do get beasley i could see us trading for maybe gordon and a filler or something like that. at PF we have brand and at SF we have thornton. we dont need beasley

i also think the clippers would take gordon over mayo but for some reason i just like mayos game better. the only problem is his attitude. but who do you guys think the clippers would draft if they did get say the 11th pick? and we'd have no need for budinger if we did get gordon or mayo. he plays the same position as them and isnt as good as them.

livingston2kaman · Post #8 » by **livingston2kaman** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:50 am

No way do we get Minny's pick this year unless they just decide to start going on huge winning streaks.

As far as our pick goes, I would love to get Gordon, but realistically, we have to look at Mayo and Budinger since I don't think Bayless will declare with Brandon Jennings going to UofA next year. One thing I won't mind doing which I've told basically everyone[probably tired of hearing it] is dealing our pick for multiple picks. Such as, let's say we end up with the 6th pick, Gordon and Mayo are both gone and the team at #11 wants to trade up and they also have #19/#20. We give them our pick for those two, and end up taking Westbrook at #11, then either getting our backup PF/C problems solved by drafting that freshman center from Vanderbilt or Ryan Anderson from Cal, or we can get another combo guard with Kyle Weaver from Wazzou.

Keep Elton around, S&T Maggette for something solid and we have a team thats good to go

bulldogcharly · Post #9 » by **bulldogcharly** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:56 am

we can get minnys pick. do you not remember in the 92-93 season when the magic just barely missed the playoffs, but they got the first pick in the draft and got webber? anything is possible. and they probably wont have the most ping pong balls because miami is still worse than them and the grizzlies can end up with a worse record than the wolves.

livingston2kaman · Post #10 » by **livingston2kaman** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 1:01 am

bulldogcharly wrote:we can get minnys pick. do you not remember in the 92-93 season when the magic just barely missed the playoffs, but they got the first pick in the draft and got webber? anything is possible. and they probably wont have the most ping pong balls because miami is still worse than them and the grizzlies can end up with a worse record than the wolves.

In order for us to get Minny's pick, it needs to be out of the top 10. Currently, the Wolves are the 2nd worst team with only 12 victories, while Bulls currently own the 10th pick with 23 victories. In order for Minny to drop that low, all teams between them and Chicago need to lose, while they come back from a 11.5 games back from Chicago, meaning they need to greatly win almost all games.

bulldogcharly · Post #11 » by **bulldogcharly** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 1:05 am

um the picks arent based on how bad the team is. the teams winning % is how many ping pong balls get put in. the 1st pick doesnt go to the worst team. the two worst teams last year were the grizzlies and the celtics and they got the 4th and 5th pick.

livingston2kaman · Post #12 » by **livingston2kaman** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 1:11 am

I know that being the worst team doesn't guarantee the #1 pick, but my point is, in order for us to get the Wolves pick, they need to end up with the #10 pick or higher, which is extremely unlikely to happen. If they end up with the 8th worst record and the 9th/10th and 11th teams end up getting picks 1-3, then we get it.

My point is..it's very unlikely that we get it

bulldogcharly · Post #13 » by **bulldogcharly** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 1:13 am

its unlikely but its possible

ClipperEric · Post #14 » by **ClipperEric** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 8:23 pm

We need a superstar. We're never going to get anywhere without getting a bigtime player in here. Since we have probably the best 4/5 combo in the game (as long as we're healthy), we need a guard. As far as I can see, the only one who qualifies as a star and is even remotely available is Gilbert Arenas.

We all know how he almost signed with the clips a few years back, and about his ties to LA, so its not impossible for us to get him. But for how much? Probably in the neighborhood of $20mil/year. Is Sterling ready to do that? Most likely no, but let's break down where we're already at this year.

Maggette makes just under $8. Cassel made just over $6. That's $14mil for 1 and a half players (Sam missed half the season). And our team stinks.

If we let Maggette go and we know Sam's not coming back, that frees up $14 for Arenas. Then we make a couple of smaller moves to free up more space, kind of like we did for Kobe a few years ago.

I say nobody's untouchable except for these 3: Kaman, Brand, Thornton

I would like to include Livingston in that group but we don't know how he's going to be when he returns.

Plus we have our #1 this year, which is almost guaranteed to be top 10.

A lineup like this would be pretty nice:

Kaman
Brand
Thornton
Arenas
Livingston

bulldogcharly · Post #15 » by **bulldogcharly** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 12:24 am

why take a chance on arenas? hes been out for the past two years with knee injuries and had surgery. who knows how good he'll be next year and hes a chucker. why do we need him to ruin the youth on our team? he'll take away tons of shots from people like thornton and our pick in mayo/gordon and also brand/kaman

ClipperEric · Post #16 » by **ClipperEric** » Thu Mar 6, 2008 8:41 pm

Because you don't win in this league without superstars. Name another superstar we that's available and even remotely interested in the Clippers.

sipclip · Post #17 » by **sipclip** » Fri Mar 7, 2008 8:23 pm

bulldogcharly wrote:its unlikely but its possible

No it's not possible. Even if the wolves played .500 ball the rest of the season they still would still be no worse than the 6th spot in the draft.

PlinkingPanda · Post #18 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Fri Mar 7, 2008 9:17 pm

ClipperEric wrote:Because you don't win in this league without superstars. Name another superstar we that's available and even remotely interested in the Clippers.

Detroit doesn't necessarily have any superstars. They have a really good balanced team with really good players, but I don't think any are considered superstars.

illastrate · Post #19 » by **illastrate** » Fri Mar 7, 2008 10:15 pm

ClipperEric wrote:Because you don't win in this league without superstars. Name another superstar we that's available and even remotely interested in the Clippers.

I agree. We need a superstar player to give us that swagger again. If you look at all the teams in the playoff hunt in the West, they've all got all-star caliber players. I would welcome Agent Zero with open arms.

illastrate · Post #20 » by **illastrate** » Fri Mar 7, 2008 10:16 pm

Fishy~McFish wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Detroit doesn't necessarily have any superstars. They have a really good balanced team with really good players, but I don't think any are considered superstars.

Detroit is just a product of a well-balanced team, deep bench, and good coaching. We don't have any of those.