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Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:27 am
by midgman8421
Let's say that Brand stays this year, leaving him as a UFA next offseason. What if the Clippers are out of the playoff hunt by the trade deadline? Would you see the Clips trading away EB for whatever they can get (expirings and picks, maybe a young player or two), or do you see them doing whatever they can to re-sign him?
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:45 am
by GuyverX
Well, the worst case scenario is if he opts out in a few weeks...but if he stays for another year and collects his $16mill, I would imagine the FO would try to work out an extension regardless of how good or bad the team is doing. If they can't get anything done by the trading deadline and the Clippers are out of the playoff hunt, I would imagine Elgin and Dunleavy will look to move him for the best deal.
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:16 pm
by illastrate
midgman8421 wrote:Let's say that Brand stays this year, leaving him as a UFA next offseason. What if the Clippers are out of the playoff hunt by the trade deadline? Would you see the Clips trading away EB for whatever they can get (expirings and picks, maybe a young player or two), or do you see them doing whatever they can to re-sign him?
The more I think about it, the more I'm in favor of a Brand for Beasley(plus others) trade. I mean, the guy is ten years younger and has a chance to be better than EB. It would be a pretty tempting offer and should the FO decide to pull the trigger, I wouldn't be upset, given the right deal.
Of course this is all for naught if we're looking to compete now and end up signing guys like Redd to give us a shot to contend. In that case, we definitely re-sign him.
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:43 am
by Captain_Morgan
Michael Beasley is not Elton Brand. They are two different players; Size wise and talent wise.
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:49 am
by GuyverX
Captain_Morgan wrote:Michael Beasley is not Elton Brand. They are two different players; Size wise and talent wise.
Could you expand on that? I can understand the size difference but what do you mean by talent?
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:59 am
by JJ LoDuca
GuyverX wrote:Captain_Morgan wrote:Michael Beasley is not Elton Brand. They are two different players; Size wise and talent wise.
Could you expand on that? I can understand the size difference but what do you mean by talent?
If I am to interject, I'm with the Cap on this one...assuming he means what I'm about to say. Given that Beasley is younger, he is inevitably less talented than EB. It's that simple. Elton has proven himself to be a top-tier NBA player, while Beasley has yet to prove himself on any such level. It's unfair to compare him to an All-Star before he even gets a bucket in an NBA-regulation hoop. I'm not for any trade involving trading a proven All-Star for a rookie with promise. Chicago did that years back with EB and Tyson Chandler...and we all know how that turned out.
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:12 pm
by thanumba2clippersfan
Good point another example is when the Lakers and Hornets traded, Kobe Bryant for Vlade
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:26 pm
by mj_shoefanatic
M-Beez will have a long prosperous NBA career but the last thing we need to do right now is get younger in a deep West Conf. eFF rebuilding for the next few seasons we need to WIN NOW!!! However, if are season stinks by the deadline then we best trade proven player for proven player not no EB for pick + blah blah

Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:06 am
by illastrate
mj_shoefanatic wrote:M-Beez will have a long prosperous NBA career but the last thing we need to do right now is get younger in a deep West Conf. eFF rebuilding for the next few seasons we need to WIN NOW!!! However, if are season stinks by the deadline then we best trade proven player for proven player not no EB for pick + blah blah

I want EB to stay, but he needs a SOLID team around him. Let's get a nice draft pick, a big FA, and S&T Maggs for a veteran PG. If we can shock the world by doing all this, then I can't wait for EB to be a Clipper next season and go for the chip.
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:54 am
by CLiPPzWeRD42
EB, Kaveman, and Thorn is a solid "nucleus"
We just need a backcourt!
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:22 pm
by bruno sundov
Celtics fan here. EB is my favorite player outside the celts. What would it take to get EB traded to the celts?Perk and Ray Allen?
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:25 pm
by loflin3hree5ive
CLiPPzWeRD42 wrote:EB, Kaveman, and Thorn is a solid "nucleus"
We just need a backcourt!
QFT
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:36 pm
by CLiPPzWeRD42
bruno sundov wrote:Celtics fan here. EB is my favorite player outside the celts. What would it take to get EB traded to the celts?Perk and Ray Allen?
The Big Ticket, and The Truth..

Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:59 pm
by Purpose
How bout Brand for Danny Ganger and Jermaine O'neal?
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:15 am
by JJ LoDuca
Purpose wrote:How bout Brand for Danny Ganger and Jermaine O'neal?
What is all this "Brand for a crappy player + a slightly less talented version of EB" talk? I think it would take something slightly outlandish to pry EB from the Clippers. I do believe that DTS & Co. will do whatever it takes to re-sign him when his UFA time comes, and to trade him away it would take a Ray Allen type guy to get a deal done (in response to the Celtic's fan question). Not that the right trade involving EB wouldn't benefit the Clippers, I just don't see our front office being ballsy enough (or smart enough, for that matter) to pull the trigger on the right deal. And as for that "right deal," please believe it has not been mentioned in any of these threads.
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:41 am
by Purpose
lmao danny granger is a crappy player?I FG%0.446 3P%0.404 0.852 1.2 4.9 6.1 2.1 1.2 1.0 2.14 3.60 19.6 last season. Do you honestly think Granger + O'neal to be a bad trade?
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:02 am
by adiedanny
Purpose wrote:lmao danny granger is a crappy player?I FG%0.446 3P%0.404 0.852 1.2 4.9 6.1 2.1 1.2 1.0 2.14 3.60 19.6 last season. Do you honestly think Granger + O'neal to be a bad trade?
C'mon for Brand, HELL YES!
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:10 am
by adiedanny
Best case scenario: Brand opts out and signs a five year deal at 13M a year. Worst case scenario: He opts out and signs with The Lakers for The Mid Level Exception.
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:00 am
by jgustav1
Purpose wrote:lmao danny granger is a crappy player?I FG%0.446 3P%0.404 0.852 1.2 4.9 6.1 2.1 1.2 1.0 2.14 3.60 19.6 last season. Do you honestly think Granger + O'neal to be a bad trade?
No, Granger isn't a crappy player (the Clippers were fools for picking Korolev ahead of him) but O'Neal isn't worth 21-23 million per season over the next 2 years. The trade doesn't work under the salary cap anyway, Brand makes a little over 16 million next season, if he doesn't opt out. The Clippers would need to throw someone like Tim Thomas or Mobley into the trade so it works under the cap.
Re: Elton Brand, wost case scenario
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:30 am
by loflin3hree5ive
Assuming JO can stay healthy but isn't productive as he used to be, this is still pretty good value for Brand. Thing is, JO's health is a huge question mark and the Clippers simply need guard help, and any EB trade would have to address that need.