A little Livingston Update

[mkwest]

Whats up family, friends and fans! An update on my progress-Im working out in chicago and have began participating in contact drills! Im too hype just to play again and to challenge somebody other than myself, EXCITING! Thank all of you again for best wishes and prayers!! I still have a ways to go to get to where I want to be with my athletic ability, but youth is my friend for now!! As far as my contract goes, I am now a free agent and will be working out for other NBA teams in the next 2 months. The clippers have shown interest in bringing me back, but I feel I must evaluate my situation and see what's best for my future, especially with Elton Brand moving onto Philly. These are exciting times for me and Im just anxious to be competing again, I tell people, and Im telling you, I FEEL BLESSED! And that I am.....I can not thank everybody that visits this website enough for keeping up with my progress...Best wishes to you all and take care

Until next time.....

ShaunLivingston14.com

The injury thread was lost in the move so this gets it's own thread. Hopefully there won't be a need for an injury thread this upcoming season.

[GuyverX]

It doesn't sound like he wants to be back does it? At least not as his #1 choice...

[PlinkingPanda]

It doesn't sound like he wants to be back does it? At least not as his #1 choice...

I don't think he'll be back to be honest, and it won't be due to the FO "screwing up" again.

[mkwest]

One of those somebody's was Thornton. For the last little while he's been hinting at testing the market and seeing who has interest in him. It was an awkward situation for both him and the organization and they really can't be blamed for not wanting to pay him $5.8M. He and the organization both desperately needed for him to return in February like first hoped. Ultimately I'd like to see him back here, but I would really be thrilled just to see him back on the court period.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

Based on what he's said and what I've read I don't think that he really wants to be back with the Clippers. If we're his only option I think he'll take it, but if there are other teams willing to give him a shot I'll think he'll leave us.

[JJ LoDuca]

I'm with you guys here....I want Shaun to be a Clipper again, but it sounds like dude has already moved on mentally.

[loflin3hree5ive]

Shaun up until maybe a month ago was my favorite Clipper. I don't want to be hard on the kid, but he's quickly becoming one of my least favorite Clippers. It looks like PG is our only position the Clippers have filled (Davis/Knight/Taylor). Livingston might have trboule making the team anyway if Dunleavy keeps the roster at 14 like he usually does.

[mj_shoefanatic]

Good luck in the East Shaun

[Clip34life]

Shaun's a kid and that's how he's acting. He doesn't appreciate the Clippers or the opportunity he's been given. Who knows what will happen with him? He never had the desire to be great and I doubt that has changed. It's best for both parties if he moves on. This is the Baron Davis era.

[Dnkndave]

Shaun feels a little "unwanted" by the Clips at this point; but I feel like this is the best situation for him. I read that he said that the drs. feel like like it'll take him a year to fully regain his strength, and he does not expect to play a gruelling 82 game schedule right off the bat. We'll be much more of an uptempo team now with Baron, and this is Liv's strength, he would make a very good backup and his minutes wouldn't be as high, thus allowing him the time to build up his strength and stamina. I know he would like to make as much money as he can (who wouldn't), so if the Clips would give as much as he'd get somewhere else, he'd stay. Signing Shaun would also make Knight expendable as I think Mike Taylor could easily serve as the 3rd string pg. For all the team has put into his re-hab, I hope he stays!!!

[NashtyNas]

Shaun's a kid and that's how he's acting. He doesn't appreciate the Clippers or the opportunity he's been given. Who knows what will happen with him? He never had the desire to be great and I doubt that has changed. It's best for both parties if he moves on. This is the Baron Davis era.

I think you are the one being a kid, or ignorant at least. This guy has done everything to get better, a lot of great players were injury prone. He has and will try to get in shape from the injury and it seems like he will play in the NBA next season, for the clippers or not. Its not that he doesn't appreciate the opportunity that he got a while back, but they DIDNT give him an opportunity to prove that he could be healthy and produce by not providing the QO. I don't know whats true with the Brand rumours, but Maggatte left cause he wasnt wanted, Brand claims the same, and so should Shaun. The "B-DIDDY" era thing? We'll see about that. We are so desperate that we need to get ZACH RANDOLPH as our PF.. thats REAL desperate to me. Shaun on the other hand probably will have many suitors and could earn minutes on any team, like the Phoenix Suns or Dallas Mavericks, or if he prefers the east, Miami and Orlando need PGS along with NJ and so on. LOTS of team need PG's, and would be willing to test what Shaun can give and appreciate it more than our FO's. I think the CLIPPERS were the one's that didnt appreciate this guys talent. Im not saying his comeback will be successful, but we should have expressed a thought that we would like him back, just not at that price, which it seems we didn't..

[mkwest]

Shaun's a kid and that's how he's acting. He doesn't appreciate the Clippers or the opportunity he's been given. Who knows what will happen with him? He never had the desire to be great and I doubt that has changed. It's best for both parties if he moves on. This is the Baron Davis era.

I think you are the one being a kid, or ignorant at least. This guy has done everything to get better, a lot of great players were injury prone. He has and will try to get in shape from the injury and it seems like he will play in the NBA next season, for the clippers or not. Its not that he doesn't appreciate the opportunity that he got a while back, but they DIDNT give him an opportunity to prove that he could be healthy and produce by not providing the QO. I don't know whats true with the Brand rumours, but Maggatte left cause he wasnt wanted, Brand claims the same, and so should Shaun. The "B-DIDDY" era thing? We'll see about that. We are so desperate that we need to get ZACH RANDOLPH as our PF.. thats REAL desperate to me. Shaun on the other hand probably will have many suitors and could earn minutes on any team, like the Phoenix Suns or Dallas Mavericks, or if he prefers the east, Miami and Orlando need PGS along with NJ and so on. LOTS of team need PG's, and would be willing to test what Shaun can give and appreciate it more than our FO's. I think the CLIPPERS were the one's that didnt appreciate this guys talent. Im not saying his comeback will be successful, but we should have expressed a thought that we would like him back, just not at that price, which it seems we didn't..

The Clippers appreciated Shaun's talent enough to take him 4th in the draft. The Clippers appreciated his talent enough to not trade him away for a superstar that could have really helped the team instantly. He got his full salary last season while the team's medical staff was with him every step of the way. $5.8M is a lot to give a guy who you don't know what he's going to give you or if he's going to give you anything at all. He's played only 44% of the regular season games since he's been in the league. To top it off, the Clippers had the opportunity to upgrade the team as a whole this offseason. Obviously the initial plan fell through, but by then Shaun had already been renounced. From what I've heard and read the Clippers have stated time and time again that they would like him back at lower price. Now it's up to him to decide what he wants to do and where he wants to be.

There's only 3 guys currently signed to the roster that he's even played an actual game with. A lot has changed since he last suited up so he may be feeling that it's time for a change for him as well. If he finds an offer out there for more than what the Clippers give him then he should by all means pursue it. I'd like to see him be that feel good story and make a triumphant return with us, but I won't be mad at him if someone offers him a deal that will financially secure him and his future and we don't.

[loflin3hree5ive]

Shaun's a kid and that's how he's acting. He doesn't appreciate the Clippers or the opportunity he's been given. Who knows what will happen with him? He never had the desire to be great and I doubt that has changed. It's best for both parties if he moves on. This is the Baron Davis era.

I think you are the one being a kid, or ignorant at least. This guy has done everything to get better, a lot of great players were injury prone. He has and will try to get in shape from the injury and it seems like he will play in the NBA next season, for the clippers or not. Its not that he doesn't appreciate the opportunity that he got a while back, but they DIDNT give him an opportunity to prove that he could be healthy and produce by not providing the QO. I don't know whats true with the Brand rumours, but Maggatte left cause he wasnt wanted, Brand claims the same, and so should Shaun. The "B-DIDDY" era thing? We'll see about that. We are so desperate that we need to get ZACH RANDOLPH as our PF.. thats REAL desperate to me. Shaun on the other hand probably will have many suitors and could earn minutes on any team, like the Phoenix Suns or Dallas Mavericks, or if he prefers the east, Miami and Orlando need PGS along with NJ and so on. LOTS of team need PG's, and would be willing to test what Shaun can give and appreciate it more than our FO's. I think the CLIPPERS were the one's that didnt appreciate this guys talent. Im not saying his comeback will be successful, but we should have expressed a thought that we would like him back, just not at that price, which it seems we didn't..

The Clippers appreciated Shaun's talent enough to take him 4th in the draft. The Clippers appreciated his talent enough to not trade him away for a superstar that could have really helped the team instantly. He got his full salary last season while the team's medical staff was with him every step of the way. $5.8M is a lot to give a guy who you don't know what he's going to give you or if he's going to give you anything at all. He's played only 44% of the regular season games since he's been in the league. To top it off, the Clippers had the opportunity to upgrade the team as a whole this offseason. Obviously the initial plan fell through, but by then Shaun had already been renounced. From what I've heard and read the Clippers have stated time and time again that they would like him back at lower price. Now it's up to him to decide what he wants to do and where he wants to be.

There's only 3 guys currently signed to the roster that he's even played an actual game with. A lot has changed since he last suited up so he may be feeling that it's time for a change for him as well. If he finds an offer out there for more than what the Clippers give him then he should by all means pursue it. I'd like to see him be that feel good story and make a triumphant return with us, but I won't be mad at him if someone offers him a deal that will financially secure him and his future and we don't.

[GuyverX]

Shaun's a kid and that's how he's acting. He doesn't appreciate the Clippers or the opportunity he's been given. Who knows what will happen with him? He never had the desire to be great and I doubt that has changed. It's best for both parties if he moves on. This is the Baron Davis era.

I think you are the one being a kid, or ignorant at least. This guy has done everything to get better, a lot of great players were injury prone. He has and will try to get in shape from the injury and it seems like he will play in the NBA next season, for the clippers or not. Its not that he doesn't appreciate the opportunity that he got a while back, but they DIDNT give him an opportunity to prove that he could be healthy and produce by not providing the QO. I don't know whats true with the Brand rumours, but Maggatte left cause he wasnt wanted, Brand claims the same, and so should Shaun. The "B-DIDDY" era thing? We'll see about that. We are so desperate that we need to get ZACH RANDOLPH as our PF.. thats REAL desperate to me. Shaun on the other hand probably will have many suitors and could earn minutes on any team, like the Phoenix Suns or Dallas Mavericks, or if he prefers the east, Miami and Orlando need PGS along with NJ and so on. LOTS of team need PG's, and would be willing to test what Shaun can give and appreciate it more than our FO's. I think the CLIPPERS were the one's that didnt appreciate this guys talent. Im not saying his comeback will be successful, but we should have expressed a thought that we would like him back, just not at that price, which it seems we didn't..

Are you kidding me? The Clippers have supported him since day 1. It's not their fault Livingston is built like a twig. We turned down a future hall of famer in Allen Iverson because we believed in his ability. And don't give me that crap about the Clippers not giving him an opportunity. Nobody even knows if he can play in the NBA anymore. Giving him a QO is out of the question and no GM with half a brain would give him that money considering he's taken over a year to rehab and still isn't even healthy enough to play in the summer league.

So far, the only mistake the Clippers have made regarding Livingston is drafting a high school PG at #4. You can give this franchise grief about many things but not when it comes to supporting Livingston and giving him opportunities to prove himself.

[eastsidecrossover]

The guy is young, and has acted his age probably before the injury.. Thats usually what you get out of a guy that comes right out of HS most of the time. They are not fully ready for the NBA. He may not have been as grateful before his injury, but when we are in a bad spot, we never knew how good we had it, and I think that is where Livingston is at. I think he is treating this like he should, a business action. He wants a team to take a chance, but also to get paid. But teams, and they should be leery of his knee. It’s a big risk and investment to make. Livingston and his agent probably want a long term contract, but teams will not bite as of yet. He may have to settle for the minimum for one year and prove he is ready to come back.

The thing is, it has to be in the right situation, a team that has a good medical staff, time to wait due to a starting PG on the team already. No need to rush, but take the risk and see if it pans out.

To say they did not give him and chance is kind of stupid I think. He was young, and they also had cassell, a vet at the PG position. He is weak, and I am not sure if he worked hard enough to put on the lbs to get better and stronger. He may also might have a hard time with gaining lbs. But since his ability has been taken away to a point, he is going to see things through a different light.

I personally would like to see the kid take his time and come back strong. As a suns fan, I want to see them take a chance on the kid, bring him slowly, and they have the best medical staff in the nba. We are in need of a backup pg, but can wait for him to be 100% due to nash and other players that can handle the ball. I know the phx papers have reported that they are going to take a look at him, bring him in and let the medical staff evaluate him. I hope they do.

Anyways, good luck, I hope that the Davis era works, and that you guys crush the sixers when you play them.

[corgiBear8]

I hope he comes back. He'd be great as a backup next year to come in and play 15 mins a night.

[JJ LoDuca]

^ I second that. Hopefully he will progress enough that he and Baron can alternate at the 1 and 2 spots and Shaun can log more time than just 15 mins. That is, if he progresses enough.

[GuyverX]

I just don't think he wants to come back...at all. Somebody will take a chance on him and give him more than the Clippers. It would be nice for him to fulfill the Clippers' dreams they had for him but I think that ship has set sail.