Quake Griffin wrote:Neddy wrote:Quake Griffin wrote:Point by Point
- I've never known the story to be that Floyd wouldn't take the same test. I have nothing to say about that point because I've never heard that. I just read that Manny didn't want Olympic style testing and somehow that was Floyd's fault.
- Manny isn't the draw that Floyd Mayweather is and his purses aren't as big as Mayweather's purses are either. Every opponent they've shared, Mayweather has made more money than Manny…you know when Manny was coming behind Floyd and trying to beat Floyd's old opponents worse than Floyd did.
Floyd-Oscar 2.4 million PPV buys
Manny-Oscar 1.25 million PPV buys.
Floyd's point this entire time is that since HE is the draw, Manny needs to yield and let Floyd have the bigger share…. the same way Floyd and Manny both let Oscar have the bigger share when they both fought him respectively because Oscar was the draw.
oh and guess what.
the split is 60-40 on this May 2nd fight in favor of….you guessed it….Mayweather.
- It's called negotiating. Floyd's highest take home pay from a fight is $50 million. His first offer is obviously going to be a low ball. Wouldn't you expect Manny's to be high if he came with the first offer? You're supposed to come with a counter-offer. WHAT YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO is say, "50-50" and hang up the phone in his face, preventing further negotiations and then act like it's Floyd's fault.
so the guy who picked up the phone to call you is the one who is ducking you?….this makes sense?
I kid you not…like 2 weeks after that story came out, Manny came on First Take with Skip and Screamin A and told them that he would fight Floyd FOR FREE….FOR EFFIN FREE!
so pardon me if I'm not sympathetic to Manny. He pulls bull moves to stall the fight behind closed doors, then does something different in public to gain sympathy from the fans and make people think Floyd is ducking.
just remember this….the guy who picked up the phone and called him while he was in the Philippines was ducking him.
like I said, it's a joke
- Floyd hasn't ducked anybody. I still don't know what you're talking about when you say this.
edit:
and De La Hoya didn't lose to Trinidad. The judges punished him for running in the last 3 rounds. At worse, the fight should have been a draw.
first point, playing ignorance to the situation doesn't excuse your opinion, in fact it validates your ignorance.
second, of course the first fight of Oscar vs Floyd draws more PPV because Oscar was still the champ. the next fight against Pac didn't draw as much because Manny was still relatively unknown to American fans and Oscar was done, no longer a champ and lost too many fights by then,
third, Manny is giving up purse now to fight Floyd because he is precisely no longer the draw he once was. he is done. you said it, I said it. Floyd knows it. it only validates my point of WHY FLOYD DIDNT FIGHT MANNY AT HIS BEST? because he has always been, and always will be, a ducking coward.
for your edit. Im pretty sure you watched a youtube video of Oscar vs Trinidad. I watched it live. Oscar lost. and Im his most diehard fan. I call it like i see it. you call it as you see it fit.
1) I was being nice, not pleading ignorance. That's not how the story happened.
2) Manny was NEVER the draw Floyd was ever.
3) I watched that fight with my father and brother because back then, we loved the Golden Boy from East LA. I was 11 years old and my brother and I were heart broken. He was my hero. I have it recorded on VHS tape back at the house in LA…
In these situations of age, it's better to ask.
Sugar Ray Leonard's 1st retirement was in 1982. You're 40. 2015-1982. 33. Ok, so that makes you how old? Ok, so since you keep pulling the age card with me, I'll assume you don't remember anything about Sugar Ray and Hagler.
deal?
ok then.
just like you say you watched Oscar's fight with your dad, so did i with my old man. it doesn't matter what you want to or how you wish to trash it, Marvin Hagler to me, was GOD and left a lifetime of impression and even made me sign up with a boxing gym at a very young age.
do your thing, young lad. i would rather not lose a friendship over a silly sports debate. i know you being a law student and in your twenties, it is impossible not to get worked up. afterall, i was even a bigger egomaniac than anyone then. i will call it a night, but pretty boy is still a dodging and ducking coward. and to you Pac is still some third world trash. good night.
