Free Eric Gordon!

Purpose · Post #1 » by **Purpose** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 5:38 pm

When will MDsr let our dog loose? He played 20 mins combined in the last 3 games(2 of which were blowouts). EJ could definitely help us out with our 3rd and 4th quarter scoring droughts. In fact, all three of our rooks deserve burn, even in nonblowout situations.

mj_shoefanatic · Post #2 » by **mj_shoefanatic** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 5:45 pm

EJ should just start ahead of Hart and Taylor(or Taylor starts and EJ is 1st off the bench @ PG) to see what we can get from our #7 pick. I still don't know why Dun SR is treating him like James Singleton. :noway:

Post #3 » by **thanumba2clippersfan** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 6:09 pm

I've been surprised that our rookies haven't gotten more PT these first three games. I'm also surprised that Jordan played his first game last night. Taylor has gotten a good amount of PT, but obviously Gordon needs more. If our offense is struggling he needs to go in, he's a pretty good shooter and is able to get to the basket.

corgiBear8 · Post #4 » by **corgiBear8** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 8:49 pm

Exactly!

They must be dogging it big time in practice if they can't even get a couple minutes of playing time during these blow outs. I know a lot of you like Mike Taylor, but in reality, he is not a very good point guard (as of yet). Love the instant offense and hard work on D, but he turns the ball over, doesn't really run the offense, and can't pass well (doesn't get it to them at the right time or in shooting position). Taylor will be a decent backup for us, but we need Gordon to play. Did we not draft this guy to be a starter, or at least a sixth man? In my opinion, Gordon is not a project. He is the type of player that is ready to play and just needs more game experience.

On the other hand, Jordan is a project. But he needs to get some minutes too. When we are down by 20+ points in the fourth, let him play. Yes, he'll make mistakes, but at least he'll be able to watch the game tape and realize what he has to do next time. There is no point in leaving Kaman in during fourth quarter blow outs...unless we want him to get injured too. We all know how fragile he is, and moreover, how poorly he plays with nagging injuries.

Let our rookies play!

GuyverX · Post #5 » by **GuyverX** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:03 pm

Why should it surprise you that Dunleavy isn't playing the rookies? He never plays rookies right away no matter how good they play. Remember Singleton? Mr. double double off the bench couldn't even see the light of day no matter what he did the previous game. Then you have Al Thornton last season. He was getting 20ppg during summer league, he was producing points every time he was in the game. It wasn't until Thomas was injured did he get the nod to start. Dunleavy obviously has a policy on rookies and it's downright stupid and annoying.

Take last night for instance. Eric Gordon checked in late in the 4th and his first shot was 3 feet behind the 3-point arc off a screen. He swishes it. I mean, we know he can score and we could've used him in the 3rd quarter when the Jazz went on a 17-1 run or whatever it was. If you don't give guys a chance to prove themselves, how can they earn playing time? Then when they do miraculously get to check into the game, when they produce you don't give them a chance the next game. How stupid can Dunleavy be about this? :nonono:

Thank God he let Taylor start the 2nd half because Jason Hart is stinking it up. Dunleavy needs to let guys do their thing and not try to reign them in like infants.

I respect this guy as a GM but as coach he blows...and I'm a Dunleavy support believe it or not.

Post #6 » by **loflin3hree5ive** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:09 pm

Dunleavy obviously doesn't have much of a sense of urgency for these first few games. I'm comparing his situation to Al's last season which like Purpose said, didn't really get an opportunity until it was created for him through injury. However, Gordon did miss a good portion of the pre-season and his shot selection might still might not be exactly to Dunleavy's liking yet, so I still hold out hope EJ can start earning minutes earlier than Al did last year. Also, after allowing Utah to set a record with only allowing 5 turnovers, perhaps Dunleavy will realize he needs players to spark energy into the team on defense and to start disrupting passing lanes. With Gordon's athletic ability and long arms, he is certainly capable of doing both.

PlinkingPanda · Post #7 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:22 pm

I forgot about how Thornton didn't get many minutes at the start of last season..

GuyverX · Post #8 » by **GuyverX** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:28 pm

Eric Gordon played 3 minutes and 41 seconds against Utah. Does anybody see the logic in this? Even if he has poor shot selection, Dunleavy gave Ricky Davis 20 minutes and Eric Gordon 3. Ricky Davis can't throw a pebble in the ocean right now. The guy is shooting a whopping 19% after 16 FGAs.

Purpose · Post #9 » by **Purpose** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:38 pm

Looking back at Al's 07-08 season, it seems as though he was given an oppurtunity early in the season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/429 ... ?year=2007

I agree that EJ has poor shot selection at times, but I think MDsr has to have at least SOME tolerance for that. This team in general is a poor shot selecting team lol.

GuyverX · Post #10 » by **GuyverX** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:45 pm

^ But he didn't start when he should have. Guys like Thomas, Ross, Powell and Frahm of all people were starting ahead of him. If Tim Thomas hadn't gotten injured in the 2nd half of the season, he wouldn't have started then either.

Purpose · Post #11 » by **Purpose** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:59 pm

He did not start but the playing time was there. The 07-08 team was thin from top to bottom, it was only a matter of time before al started in that season.

In our current situation, our PG play/depth is also thin with Baron out. EJ SHOULD be getting more than 3 mins a game to experience PG/SG play in a real NBA game. Damn that dunleavy!

DerickG · Post #12 » by **DerickG** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 10:08 pm

We are 0-3 it's not the end of the world. YES we have a tough schedule but it does not mean we can't beat good teams. We are a good team for 30 of the 48 minutes. We need to play good basketball for ALL 48. Eric Gordon is NOT the answer. He is a DECENT player. I liked the pick. Eric Gordon did not wanted to be drafted by the Clippers. Eric Gordon CAN'T create his own shot which he has to do if Baron is not in the game. Thorton has played 1 good game we need all 3. We will be fine. 3 GAME WIN STREAK STARTS MONDAY!

DerickG · Post #13 » by **DerickG** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 10:09 pm

It's not EJ! It EG Eric Gordon!

Purpose · Post #14 » by **Purpose** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 10:14 pm

DerickG wrote:It's not EJ! It EG Eric Gordon!

HE is also called EJ J for Jr. Eric Gordon Jr.

Purpose · Post #15 » by **Purpose** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 10:17 pm

DerickG wrote:We are 0-3 it's not the end of the world. YES we have a tough schedule but it does not mean we can't beat good teams. We are a good team for 30 of the 48 minutes. We need to play good basketball for ALL 48. Eric Gordon is NOT the answer. He is a DECENT player. I liked the pick. Eric Gordon did not wanted to be drafted by the Clippers. Eric Gordon CAN'T create his own shot which he has to do if Baron is not in the game. Thorton has played 1 good game we need all 3. We will be fine. 3 GAME WIN STREAK STARTS MONDAY!

This team can't even beat good teams without their stars(deron, melo) so what makes you think they can?

Eric Gordon can create his own shot. The guy is an absolute beast when his shot is falling and driving to the hole. What he can't do is create a shot for his teammates.

ClipperDomination · Post #16 » by **ClipperDomination** » Sun Nov 2, 2008 10:19 pm

Gordon needs to get more than 3+ minutes in a blowout. Period.

He has superb talent but Dun needs to let him loose.

PlinkingPanda · Post #17 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Mon Nov 3, 2008 12:16 am

Purpose wrote:This team can't even beat good teams without their stars(deron, melo) so what makes you think they can?

Our point guard situation covers it all. With no true point guard to lead the team we suck. Even if we kept EB and Baron went down with that hip injury, we'd suck. It's always been about the point guard position for us. We always sucked until Sammy came along. He saved us for that one single season he was healthy. The next two seasons he was injured and we fell short of the playoffs and had that horrible season last year. If Baron provides us with his playmaking skills then we will always have a good chance to win, but without a PG like him or Sam. Well.. We just suck.

To continue on.. We have no answer to the loss of Baron. EJ is just a scorer, Taylor is an extremely athletic combo guard, and Hart.. uhh.. I don't know.. He's average at best. That Jason Williams retirement thing turned out worse than we thought. He was able to be a play maker and streaky shooter.

DerickG · Post #18 » by **DerickG** » Mon Nov 3, 2008 2:17 am

I disagree. I have seen lots of Eric Gordon, he can't create his own shot. We should be 2-1 but things happen. I am hoping for good news on Baron tomorrow.

Go Clippers!

GuyverX · Post #19 » by **GuyverX** » Mon Nov 3, 2008 3:02 am

Eric Gordon can't create his own shot? The guy can get to the rim and finish at will because of his strength. The only knock on Gordon is that he is an undersized SG and that he can't create for others. Scoring and creating his own shot is what he actually excels at.

Purpose · Post #20 » by **Purpose** » Mon Nov 3, 2008 3:29 am

GuyverX wrote:Eric Gordon can't create his own shot? The guy can get to the rim and finish at will because of his strength. The only knock on Gordon is that he is an undersized SG and that he can't create for others. Scoring and creating his own shot is what he actually excels at.

+ 1 million

I think you have been watching an imposter DerickG :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7HiklrlfXE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19sRqsD3DYk