Is the season over?

[GuyverX]

Pretty damn simple. YES or NO. And don't give me that "there are 82 games in the season" BS. Do you think this team is done in terms of making the playoffs?

[dockingsched]

no doubt. dunleavy sucks. kaman's back to his average self. davis is having to force his scoring because no one can finish inside. there is zero post presence to speak of. no defense, no running game, no shooting, no finishing...team doesn't do anything good.

[livingston2kaman]

BJ Mullens? Blake Griffin? James Hardon? Victor Claver? That is what we should be asking.

Yes, the season is 82 games long, but we are already 1-8 and 2.5 games out of the 8th seed as of now.

[supergallinari]

yes. you guys need to look towards the future and that starts with a new GM and getting rid of the deadweight.

thorton and gordon are bright spots.
the 09 1st rd pick will probably be top 5.
davis
gordon
thorton
griffin
kaman

is a great rebuild.

add another top 10 pick in 2010 draft and possibly a 2010 free agent and you can be a top playoff team in the west.

mobley, camby, tim thomas, ricky davis were quick fixes by dunleavy that failed miserably.

[corgiBear8]

I am the only 'No' vote, how sad. I think we are going to make a huge turn around in mid december and go on an absolute tear before the all star break. This team just needs to find its identity. Its like they are running around with their heads chopped off. I've seen better team play during pick up games at the gym.

Dunleavy and the team needs to decide soon what kind of team this year's team is going to be. Is dunleavy going to loosen his grasp and let us run and gun it out, or is he going to change the team mentality and get the team to put in a 100% group effort in clamping down on D? We have to decide soon, cuz as of right now, we suck on offense and we suck on defense.

Don't worry Clip fans, once the team gets on the same page, look for Baron/Al/Gordon to bring some excitement to Staples.

[TheNewEra]

Not yet but a loss to the Spurs puts the stamp on it. The quick fixes were fails. I also think it would have helped if Dunleavy would of asked Camby about coming to the team before the trade. You brought over a player that was highly tied to his old team to a rebuilding team and insert him into your starting line-up on the fly. It was going to be really good or really bad.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

I'm going with no as well. It's funny because I was just about to start a thread like this. The truth is that we're not doing anything too well right now. We have had flashes when we have looked good. But with 9 or 10 new players on a team you need to get acclimated, this is pretty much a brand new team. It's like putting a whole bunch of people together and saying Ok be a team go out there and win. We need chemistry, no one really knows how to play with who yet.

To be honest I don't know if you can say that any team is finished before going into 10 games in the season. The problem is that we want instant results, what we have may take time. We must be patient and see how things play out. This team is much more talented than to be 1-8. Once we have chemistry, once we start playing on the same page everything should be good. It's also obvious that Dunleavy can't coach this team. He either needs to change his coaching style or we need a new coach. I'm sure we'll see some kind of change in this team before the season is done. Right now we're just in a tough spot but the future will be better for us.

[mj_shoefanatic]

Time for us to stick a fork in it.

Our veteran role players(i.e. Hart, R.Davis, Trash Thomas, etc..) are all bust-o's and our rooks are not being used properly by Coach Dumb SR!!!!

[PlinkingPanda]

Of course it's not over, but chances are growing much more slim that we'd even make some sort of impact. All I know is, I'm not holding my breath.

[NYCF]

Hate to say I told you so, but I called these losers to "jumpstart" the season at 1-9 and stated unequivocally that the playoffs were a pipedream after just 5 games. Not to belabor a point that a number of other posters have made but to start a season 1-8 when you have played 7 games at home with many of them against teams that were missing 1 or 2 key players is beyond inexcusable. This dog should roll over and die and take a shot at the worst record of all time (I believe that dubious distinction belongs to the 72-73 Sixers who went 9-73).) Now that would be something to cheer for. Once again taking their rightful position as the laughingstock of all of North American professional sports.

Time to completely blow it up like the Knicks did. They are off to a 6-3 start (albeit against generally weak competition) because Walsh and D'Antoni had the balls to sit malcontent losers like Marbury and Curry and take the team in a completely different direction. Clearly that is what is needed with this sorry franchise.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

The point that I've been trying take make over this horrible start is that it isn't how you start a season its how you finish. If you have some kind of pride as a fan why would you cheer for your team to have the worst record in NBA history. We all know that our team isn't playing well but we have the ability to do much better than 1-8. And like I've been saying I didn't know the season was over in less than a month in. Some of you can feel the way you do but I know this thing will take time and the results won't be instant. Some teams start off great and trail off at the end.

Anything is possible, if you'd like to give up so be it. I hope that our team doesn't have that kind of mentality and I feel that neither should we. As a fan I'm not giving up on the season, it's tough being Clippers fan but that's just how it is.

[GuyverX]

I've been a Clippers fan for far too long. If they were 1-8 and playing hard and with heart on both ends of the floor, that's one thing. But the way they are playing is inexcusable. There is no effort, there is no fire. When they played against the Kings, the first thing that I saw was their lackadaisical demeanor. They looked like a team going into that game with a record of 6-1, not 1-6. There was no sense of urgency whatsoever.

They don't even look like they give a crap about winning or losing. From Kaman to dare I say it, Baron Davis...these guys just look like they are going through the motions and accepting the fate that comes along with being a Clipper. How many times have we been blown out and embarrassed on our own home floor in the first 9 games here? This is unacceptable and I don't have any faith in this team whatsoever until they prove otherwise. You can see it in their eyes, you can see it in their body language--they look like a beaten team only 9 games into the season.

It's fine if chemistry takes a while to form but effort is something you can give regardless of who you're playing with or how long you've been playing with that team. Hustling on defense, scrapping for the loose ball...we are getting killed on dribble drive penetration and giving up offensive boards.

I'm calling this season's aspirations for the playoffs over on November 15 and dare the Clippers to prove me wrong.

[cinnamon]

Well Guyver, I'd love to see them prove you wrong, but I'm not betting the mortgage.
The season can't possibly be set in stone before November is out --- any number of things could happen, from personnel changes to this group of guys learning to trust each other and to get a good enough sense of each other to play in that wonderful spirited way some teams achieve where the whole is more than the sum of its parts.
Of course, there could also be injuries or other setbacks.
There's no way of knowing at this point.
It's true, though, that after a few years as a Clippers fan, there's a tendency to accept a certain feeling of resignation as your emotional default point.
We've been here, and still are here, for the long haul though, so let's try to fan some little spark of hope in each other along the way.

[jgustav1]

It was over before it started if you were thinking playoffs in my opinion. I didn't see any way the team would finish above .500 or had improved more than teams like Portland who were easily better than the Clippers last year. Look at Oden, 13 pts 8 rebounds and 3 blocks tonight in 24 minutes. He is just getting started and hasn't played 5 games yet.

Short of some major trade which is very unlikely, this team won't be going anywhere with marginal veteran talent like Mobley, Thomas and Ricky Davis being part of the rotation. Kaman is way too inconsistent and isn't as good as his stat lines often suggest. Camby and Kaman don't see to complement each other very well. Baron Davis puts up points, assists and steals but shoots a lot of 3's and isn't a good 3 pt percentage shooter. Thornton has good offensive talent, but often times he goes one on one or makes difficult shot attempts and doesn't look to pass the ball often enough.

[mkwest]

I voted no. I've been disgusted at times, but I'm not ready to throw in the towel on the entire season yet. I've seen worse as a fan of this organization. The fact of the matter remains that anything can happen positively or negatively with any team in this league. So today's reality may not be tomorrow's reality. It's not too late to turn it around. Yes, every game lost is another game closer to that, but the season is still very young.

As far as an identity goes, I wouldn't say we don't have one. It's just not the one that we or the players on the team want. These guys say they don't have an identity, but the real problem is they are playing like the tin man. Commit to team defense, commit to boxing out and not getting beat on the boards every night, play with more of a sense of urgency, hustle, move the ball, communicate. Be the hunter rather than the hunted. I think that Dunleavy has had good intentions, and wants what we want out of this team. The problem is he's too rigid and needs to allow Baron to help dictate the direction of this team. Forget about playing to other teams' strengths, make the most of what we do have. He needs to commit to a starting line-up and rotation, so that roles are clearly defined.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

True, it seems like who's coming off the bench changes every game. I also don't like how Dunleavy put Thomas in the starting lineup yesterday. Like MK said it would help if we had a consistent starting lineup and a consistent rotation.

[ClipperDomination]

^ If TT didn't play at all on a consistent basis, I'm sure we'd all be happy that there are no more fade-away 2 foot bricks.

I voted yes, as long as we got Dumbleavy at coach. There's no escaping his gameplans as long as he's the coach.

[SD2042]

Like most of yall said, Dunleavy's schemes are not matching his players. This group of players he has on the roster are better off in a run and gun system. Let these guys play on the court w/o the coach micro managing the game on every possession. Why else things are a mess right now.

[adiedanny]

I think we just need to play some hard nosed man to man defense. If you have noticed most of our losses have been produced by the other team scoring from jumpers and three point shots. I think Moble needs to take a seat and replace him with another player. I don't what most of you would think about this but I think Taylor should be injected into the starting line up playing beside Davis. I know he is developing into a good pg back-up but we need his scoring and in your face defense. Think of us utilizing him how we did with Ross but with scoring.

[realfung]

YES, the season is over and Clippers will not make the playoffs.