BoomFizzle wants back in with GS

[Sid the Squid]

I'd take him back if you guys would take Maggs back,..We'll even throw in Jamal and Ronny.

Turiaf-Crawford-Maggs for Camby-Baron

Jack and Baron hung out Saturday.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12 ... s-back-in/

[PlinkingPanda]

Hahahaha.. You honestly think we want Mags back at $10M a year? I was a big Maggette fan when he was here, but even I don't want him back with that kind of contract.

Also add in the fact that Dunleavy and Maggette haven't been on good terms. This won't ever happen. Not even if Sterling is a Mags fan. Trading with your team will not help us at all. You have nothing we really want.. Other than a better coach.

[illastrate]

Camby stays. Come on now.

BD/Thornton for Crawford/Randolph/Wright. I would've said Azu (I remember how much you hate him), but he can't be traded to us till next season.

[mj_shoefanatic]

Maggette better not come back.

[GuyverX]

Maggette has about as good a chance of coming back to the Clippers as LeBron James signing with them in 2010. And you want our best center on a massive expiring contract?

Let's put down the good stuff.

[rly723]

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Golden State Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -9.1 ppg, -2.8 rpg, and +1.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Baron Davis
6-3 PG from UCLA
17.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 8.2 apg in 37.4 minutes
Outgoing Players
Marcus Williams
6-3 PG from Connecticut
1.3 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 7.1 minutes
Anthony Randolph
6-10 PF from Louisiana State
5.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.3 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG / PG from Michigan
19.6 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 4.4 apg in 35.6 minutes

L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +9.1 ppg, +2.8 rpg, and -1.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Marcus Williams
6-3 PG from Connecticut
1.3 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 7.1 minutes
Anthony Randolph
6-10 PF from Louisiana State
5.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.3 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG / PG from Michigan
19.6 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 4.4 apg in 35.6 minutes
Outgoing Players
Baron Davis
6-3 PG from UCLA
17.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 8.2 apg in 37.4 minutes

[jgustav1]

I'd take him back if you guys would take Maggs back,..We'll even throw in Jamal and Ronny.

Turiaf-Crawford-Maggs for Camby-Baron

Jack and Baron hung out Saturday.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2008/12 ... s-back-in/

Camby doesn't belong in the deal. Biedrins or Ellis would need to be involved in a trade for Davis. If Ellis was involved, the Clippers would need to see how he plays after returning from injury so this couldn't happen before the trading deadline.

[scratch21]

Give us Ellis

[scratch21]

i dont see dunleavy making another deal this year hes made to many. the owner would not be happy with him doing all sorts of trades.

[killacalijatt]

Maggs can still be traded to Toronto along with AzuBuike for a #1 pick, Bargs, and expirings

Somelike this
Toronto In-Azubuike and Maggatte
Toronto Out- Graham, Bargs, #1 Pick, Parker,

GSW Out-MWilliams, Azubuike, Maggatte
GSW In- Baron, Graham

Clippz In-MWilliams, #1 Pick T-Dot, Bargs, Parker
Clippz Out-Baron

[JJ LoDuca]

Guys, let's be real, a dude we just signed to a big ass contract isn't going anywhere, at least not this season.

And in my extremely humble opinion, Baron needs to set things right in LA before he makes up his mind to bounce. He came here knowing he was expected to be the franchise's savior, even after Brandy Boy left, and was reppin' LA all the way through. And now he's talkin' talking about leaving already? How 'bout instead of bitching about the situation, BoomFizz takes steps to make it better...?

[skEwb]

Guys, let's be real, a dude we just signed to a big ass contract isn't going anywhere, at least not this season.

And in my extremely humble opinion, Baron needs to set things right in LA before he makes up his mind to bounce. He came here knowing he was expected to be the franchise's savior, even after Brandy Boy left, and was reppin' LA all the way through. And now he's talkin' talking about leaving already? How 'bout instead of bitching about the situation, BoomFizz takes steps to make it better...?

Nobody can make things better with Dunleavy as head coach of the Clippers. Why do you think he wants to go back? The freedom that Nellie gives him he will never have with Dunleavy. He's out there playing like a dead robot, doing things by the book and not caring. You really want him to be a Clipper?

[Coxy]

Guys, let's be real, a dude we just signed to a big ass contract isn't going anywhere, at least not this season.

And in my extremely humble opinion, Baron needs to set things right in LA before he makes up his mind to bounce. He came here knowing he was expected to be the franchise's savior, even after Brandy Boy left, and was reppin' LA all the way through. And now he's talkin' talking about leaving already? How 'bout instead of bitching about the situation, BoomFizz takes steps to make it better...?

Ah, I see your still getting aquainted with the intricicies of having Baron Davis play for your franchise. Baron bailed on the Hornets when he didn't get his way. Baron bailed on the Warriors (even though he was having great success in that situation) after he didn't get his way. What makes you think he'll stick it out and try his best with the Clipps in this situation when he's clearly not fitting in with your style? He's made to play in an uptempo style of play where he has the keys to the team and is allowed to dominate the ball and chuck at will. If he's not doing that then his play, and his brain, just starts shutting down and then you've got a headache. It'll prolly come down to either he goes, or Dunleavy gets the axe which is what happened in New Orleans.

Barons style of play doesn't suit the Clipps just like Maggs style of play is a nighmare for the Warriors. Both of our F/O's really screwed up on this one and the rest of the league (especially the Fakers) must be laughing their asses off at this soap opera.

Even if you guys wanted Maggs back and we wanted Baron back it just wouldn't happen. Theres no way our dumb ass front offices would admitt failure and trade players back especially adding in other players like Camby, Ellis or whoever. A 3 team trade would be the only way to go and that is still very unlikely.

[cinnamon]

Well, I really can't see Marcus Williams as the Clippers' starting point guard, and we certainly don't want to lose Camby.
Anyone wanting to propose a trade, please keep in mind that we want credible players at every starting position, and we don't want to trade away a superior player for a bunch of guys some other team needs to get rid of.
(Not that any trades agreeable to both REALGM boards are going to be meaningful in real life anyway, of course.)

[JJ LoDuca]

Guys, let's be real, a dude we just signed to a big ass contract isn't going anywhere, at least not this season.

And in my extremely humble opinion, Baron needs to set things right in LA before he makes up his mind to bounce. He came here knowing he was expected to be the franchise's savior, even after Brandy Boy left, and was reppin' LA all the way through. And now he's talkin' talking about leaving already? How 'bout instead of bitching about the situation, BoomFizz takes steps to make it better...?

Nobody can make things better with Dunleavy as head coach of the Clippers. Why do you think he wants to go back? The freedom that Nellie gives him he will never have with Dunleavy. He's out there playing like a dead robot, doing things by the book and not caring. You really want him to be a Clipper?

This is very true, I agree, its Dunleavy. And yes, I do want him to be a Clipper because I know that he's better than what he's shown. And yet, we seem to agree on the fact that he won't be his best unless he's out of Dunleavy's system.

Don't get me wrong. I want him to be out of Dun's system, but in LA.

[TheNewEra]

Bascially the Warriors want to get the Big Three back. If we trade Baron to GSW I want Buike, Turiaf, Morrow, Crawford, 2picks unprotected,and the rookie you guys picked yp this last draft. If gSW wants baron back they should have to pay big.

Plus JJ come on deep down we know the article is true Baron is tanking as we speak and MD isn't going anywhere we failed again. The way the article is set up has me thinking there is no way Jack's was lying Baron really wants out.

[JJ LoDuca]

Plus JJ come on deep down we know the article is true Baron is tanking as we speak and MD isn't going anywhere we failed again. The way the article is set up has me thinking there is no way Jack's was lying Baron really wants out.

I never said anything about the article being untrue. I don't think Stephen Jackson is lying, either. How could you not trust that face? But anyway, Baron is tanking, I've seen him play for the last month. I know this. But I don't think Baron's goal is to get out of LA. I think its to get away from Dunleavy. And if there's any way he can do that by staying here, I'm all for it. Yet I also know that, like you said, MD ain't goin' nowhere, at least not soon.

So all I'm sayin' is, suck it up Boom.

[skEwb]

Guys, let's be real, a dude we just signed to a big ass contract isn't going anywhere, at least not this season.

And in my extremely humble opinion, Baron needs to set things right in LA before he makes up his mind to bounce. He came here knowing he was expected to be the franchise's savior, even after Brandy Boy left, and was reppin' LA all the way through. And now he's talkin' talking about leaving already? How 'bout instead of bitching about the situation, BoomFizz takes steps to make it better...?

Nobody can make things better with Dunleavy as head coach of the Clippers. Why do you think he wants to go back? The freedom that Nellie gives him he will never have with Dunleavy. He's out there playing like a dead robot, doing things by the book and not caring. You really want him to be a Clipper?

This is very true, I agree, its Dunleavy. And yes, I do want him to be a Clipper because I know that he's better than what he's shown. And yet, we seem to agree on the fact that he won't be his best unless he's out of Dunleavy's system.

Don't get me wrong. I want him to be out of Dun's system, but in LA.

Yes I'd rather have him in LA too and out of Dunleavy's system. I remember being so excited b-diddy came to the Clippers I went to a Clips/Lakers pre-season game just to see him play early on. It was a fun uptempo game with real good defense played by the Clips. Somehow once the regular season started that all went away.

[ejftw]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/clippers/la-sp-clipperfyi30-2008dec30,0,5823572.story

Davis denied that he is ready to bail off the listing 8-21 Clippers ship.

"No, I don't want out," he told The Times on Monday at practice. "I don't know what Stephen Jackson got from my conversation. That never came out of my mouth.

"I'm here. I'm here doing the same thing I did at Golden State. The first year I got to Golden State it was rough. It was a tough season. We were figuring each other out, figuring out the system. That transition year is always a tough year."

"Obviously, in no way shape or form am I ready to jump ship.

"That's not why I came here. That's not why I committed to come here. I'm committed here to turn this thing around. I like the talent on this team, I like the promise.

"The team is going to get better. My job is to continue to get better and make this year as positive and productive as we possibly can."

Clippers General Manager and Coach Mike Dunleavy was asked whether Davis had asked to be traded. The relationship between Dunleavy and Davis often has been uneasy.

"I haven't had any of those kind of conversations with Baron," Dunleavy said.

Dunleavy said he did not plan to speak to Davis about Jackson's comments.

"You read about guys saying stuff all over the place and you never know what's true and not true, and how it's perceived or not perceived," Dunleavy said. "From our standpoint, he's our player and we're trying to make the best of our situation."

Yup. Maybe now everyone can shut up, and the team can focus on trying to see what is wrong, get it fixed and put up some Ws, with an outside playoff shot now.

[mj_shoefanatic]

'ppreciate that cause I was ready to throw BD under clipper darrell's bimmer