Worst Free Agent Signing in NBA History?

NYCF · Post #1 » by **NYCF** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:51 pm

Considering the production (horrific) and the cost (16+ M per, even more horrific) the Barren FA signing may be the worst in NBA history. Anyone out there still want to defend Doneleavy's brilliant GM moves (I know that there does not exist a single poster on this board that still defends his coaching "ability" but some still want him to stay on as GM).

Post #2 » by **mkwest** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:20 pm

Grant Hill says hi

scratch21 · Post #3 » by **scratch21** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:22 pm

BD is garbage.

J-Rich- · Post #4 » by **J-Rich-** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 12:15 am

brian cardinal says hello

jgustav1 · Post #5 » by **jgustav1** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 6:16 am

Jerome James of the Knicks says I think I'll exercise my player option for the 09/10 season.

the southern dandy · Post #6 » by **the southern dandy** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 7:23 am

Grant Hill to Orlando has to rank up there, it probably tops the list for me.

What about the Joe Smith Debacle that cost Minny numerous first round picks?

Post #7 » by **thanumba2clippersfan** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 6:15 pm

I go with Jerome James to the Knicks. At least Baron contributes some what to our team.

scootfu602 · Post #8 » by **scootfu602** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 7:02 pm

Hi Clips, Suns fan here. Didn't want to start a new thread with my question. So since it regarding Baron Davis I figured I would post it in one of the 12 that are already going (j/k)

On the phoenix board we had a poster start a discussion about a Davis Nash trade that has brought in mixed feelings. Just wanted to get you alls thoughts on a Baron Davis for Steve Nash trade (straight-up). Here it is trade trade checker.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

sorry if it already posted on your board somewhere, may not have looked hard enough.

scootfu602 · Post #9 » by **scootfu602** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 7:08 pm

Sorry, I just noticed ray ray brought it up in a previous discussion of yours. Pay me no mind

PlinkingPanda · Post #10 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 7:33 pm

scootfu602 wrote:Sorry, I just noticed ray ray brought it up in a previous discussion of yours. Pay me no mind

Yeah many of us would like Nash on our team, however it really depends on who else is added to the trade other than Davis.

NYCF · Post #11 » by **NYCF** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 9:07 pm

I honestly believe that if Nash were traded to the Clippers he would refuse to report. Besides, what would be the point of trading for Nash if all he is going to be instructed to do is walk the ball up the court and dump the rock into Kaman or Randolph with 7 to 10 seconds left on the shot clock, stand around (with the rest of his teammates) and watch one of the two big guys try to score against double and triple teams. Bringing in a running PG like Nash (even at his relatively advanced age for an NBA point guard) to play for the Clippers would be like trying to power a Vespa with jet fuel.

NYCF · Post #12 » by **NYCF** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 9:13 pm

The Jerome James signing is right up there. Regarding Hill, it turned into a fiasco because of the injuries. I think it is safe to assume that if he had been healthy it would have been a wise FA signing. Don't know the details of the Cardinal signing but I assume he was signed for a fraction of what Barren signed for. I think you can also add Mobley to the list. His play as a Clipper was largely underwhelming marked by especially poor 3P shooting (the overriding ability he was supposedly brought in to provide).

~aZnPrYdE87~ · Post #13 » by **~aZnPrYdE87~** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 10:43 pm

I think you can also add Mobley to the list. His play as a Clipper was largely underwhelming marked by especially poor 3P shooting (the overriding ability he was supposedly brought in to provide).

that's probably about the dumbest thing i've ever heard (YAY GO HYPERBOLE). his 3-point shooting wasn't exactly what the fans expected (good, but not great. he did average 41% for one out of three seasons) but that was definitely NOT the "overriding ability" that brought him here. on top of that, he was one of the most consistent players on the clippers in the three seasons that he played here, both on offense and defense. not to mention, without his contract, it's very unlikely that zach randolph would be here as well.

back to the topic at hand. baron has been shooting the ball at a terrible rate but it's only 30 games in out of a five year contract. it's way too early to be jumping ship. anyways, it's simply hyperbole to say it's one of the worst free agent acquisitions in NBA HISTORY...that's just about the second dumbest thing i've ever heard. WHOOO MORE HYPERBOLE

NYCF · Post #14 » by **NYCF** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 11:06 pm

Mobley sucked, big time. He may have had a good 3P percentage one season (I'll take your word for it, I'm too lazy to look it up) but he very rarely, if ever, made a clutch 3P shot (or any other shot for that matter). The guy was definitely in the bottom half of NBA players at his position. To add insult to injury only the Clipper "braintrust" would be dumb enough to waste their (at least to that point) biggest FA acquisition on a guy who never should have been playing professional basketball in the first place.

NYCF · Post #15 » by **NYCF** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 11:14 pm

~aZnPrYdE87~ wrote:
I think you can also add Mobley to the list. His play as a Clipper was largely underwhelming marked by especially poor 3P shooting (the overriding ability he was supposedly brought in to provide).

that's probably about the dumbest thing i've ever heard (YAY GO HYPERBOLE). his 3-point shooting wasn't exactly what the fans expected (good, but not great. he did average 41% for one out of three seasons) but that was definitely NOT the "overriding ability" that brought him here. on top of that, he was one of the most consistent players on the clippers in the three seasons that he played here, both on offense and defense. not to mention, without his contract, it's very unlikely that zach randolph would be here as well.

back to the topic at hand. baron has been shooting the ball at a terrible rate but it's only 30 games in out of a five year contract. it's way too early to be jumping ship. anyways, it's simply hyperbole to say it's one of the worst free agent acquisitions in NBA HISTORY...that's just about the second dumbest thing i've ever heard. WHOOO MORE HYPERBOLE

Brilliant analysis. What you neglected to mention is that in his other 2 fulls seasons as a Clipper he shot .339 and .349 from 3P range. Suggests that the .411 in 06-07 was an aberration. Regarding the "overriding reason" he was signed in the first place, go back and check out media reports at the time of the signing. It was primarily supposedly about shoring up an anemic 3P attack. Mobely was, at best, a medicore player. IMO he was actually far less than that. I don't harbor any ill will towards the guy, I think he always gave a professional effort in his tenure as a Clipper, but I don't miss him not being on the team anymore.

~aZnPrYdE87~ · Post #16 » by **~aZnPrYdE87~** » Thu Jan 1, 2009 11:52 pm

Brilliant analysis. What you neglected to mention is that in his other 2 fulls seasons as a Clipper he shot .339 and .349 from 3P range. Suggests that the .411 in 06-07 was an aberration.

what a strange jump in logic. by the way, mobley has been a career ~38% 3-point shooter. i really don't think i need to argue this point any further because 1) you're clearly not going to listen and 2) like i said before, mobley was brought in here because the team desperately needed a shooting guard, not a 3-point specialist after bryant toyed with the idea of defecting here. calling him a mediocre player at best gives him absolutely no credit for all things he did for the clippers and AT BEST, shows that you don't really watch clippers games.

mobley has missed plenty, but he's also made plenty of clutch shots, something you would probably remember if you actually watched games. one example that sticks out immediately is his GAME WINNER against the nets two seasons ago. anyways, you're just full of hyperbole and that alone is reason enough for me to leave this thread alone. you've made some pretty stupid posts. that suggests that you're a pretty stupid poster.

Post #17 » by **floppymoose** » Sat Jan 3, 2009 8:53 am

NYCF wrote:Considering the production (horrific) and the cost (16+ M per, even more horrific)

5 years 65 million. Averages to 13 mil a year.

madmaxmedia · Post #18 » by **madmaxmedia** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 6:59 pm

Mobley didn't make enough money to be considered with the other FA signings. He was signed to make up for losing Q.

I don't think Baron is the worst FA signing in NBA history by a long shot. This team is totally gutted right now. We knew what we were getting in Baron- a great clutch player but older and injury-prone, and not really consistent enough to carry a team by himself like the real top shelf players. Sort of like a flashier, somewhat younger Sam Cassell.

Right now the main problem is not Baron. It's not like the money was going to someone else anyway.

ClipperEric · Post #19 » by **ClipperEric** » Mon Jan 5, 2009 7:08 pm

^ I disagree. Right now the main problem IS Baron. He isn't the closer we need.

Worst FA signing ever: Kenyon Martin.

Post #20 » by **Tommy Udo 6** » Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:06 am

Bulls spent 3 years accumulating cap space - and spent it all on Ben Wallace

that certain must be among the WORST signings in NBA History - much worse than the baron signing.