Clippers want Sessions...

[illastrate]

Sessions In Play? Point guard Ramon Sessions is about to take his place as one of the top free agents on the market this week. Offers for Sessions have been minor, but a well-placed league source said last night in Vegas the Milwaukee Bucks are expected to field sign-and-trade offers for Sessions, and may get a sizable proposal from the L.A. Clippers. Its unclear at this point who the Clippers would be offering for Sessions, however the Bucks have said retaining Sessions this off-season was a priority and it seems at least one team – speculated to be the Clippers – is about to call the Bucks bluff. It is not at uncommon for a team without cap space to set a player's value. Last year the Utah Jazz set Luol Deng's value offering up $13 million a season in a sign-and-trade proposal. The Bucks may now be forced to deal with a price tag set by someone else. The Bucks are under no obligation to accept or partake in such a deal, but it will start the process that ultimately gets Sessions into a new deal. from hoopsworld

I'd rather have him than AI by far. Your thoughts?

[scratch21]

i wouldnt give him more then 5 mill a year

[Matches Malone]

If they were to do a sign and trade, what do you think the Clippers would be able to offer the Bucks in return for Sessions? The Bucks seem to finally be rebuilding with dropping salary, clearing big name players like Jefferson, and trying to acquire as much young talent as they can. Any ideas on pieces the Bucks would get from the Clippers?

[scratch21]

i wouldnt want them to trade Thronton at all.. If we do we will have a huge void at the 3.

[LUKE23]

Thornton is a below replacement level player, so he wouldn't be hard to replace.

[ClipperDomination]

Thornton is a below replacement level player, so he wouldn't be hard to replace.

Which is understandable, with an acquisition like Barnes, but Thornton has a little more value than Sessions. I do not know exactly what the Bucks could get in return.

The real question for Bucks fans is what kind of contract do you see Sessions getting? How many $ per year?

[Clip34life]

Would probably do a trade with some combo of Thornton and Mike Taylor along with a filler like Ricky Davis.

[LUKE23]

Which is understandable, with an acquisition like Barnes, but Thornton has a little more value than Sessions. I do not know exactly what the Bucks could get in return.

No, he really doesn't. Sessions far outproduced Thornton using any metric you want last year, in addition to being younger and playing a position harder to find. Sessions led the Bucks in wins produced last year (Bogut would have been first if not injured, but Sessions would have also beaten out Redd). Thornton was deemed the least productive player in the league by Berri, and his on court/off court stats prove it. Thornton gets far overrated by people who are PPG zombies without taking actual play into account.

Thornton isn't good. At all. If the Bucks traded Sessions for Thornton I'd storm the front office building.

[ClipperDomination]

Would probably do a trade with some combo of Thornton and Mike Taylor along with a filler like Ricky Davis.

For just Sessions?

[PlinkingPanda]

I think Milwaukee fans are overrating Sessions.. Unprotected first round pick? Pffft... but at the same time you guys are overrated Al a bit as well. The guy needs to work on his overall game..I guess you guys think that way because we lack depth at SF, and he's our only true SF to begin with. But even then a straight up Thornton for Sessions isn't ideal, and a Thornton+unprotected first round pick for Sessions as some of them want is straight up foolish.

Let's just put it this way. Clips and Bucks are bad trading partners.

I think Sessions is a fine PG. He could probably help out lots and would be great to have along with Gordon/Blake/Taylor/Jordan for the future. I just don't see what we can offer to get him. The MLE will most likely be matched, and then what do we do with Baron? If we get our future PG ahead of time. That completely kills his value even more because other teams know we'll want to dump him.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

I say as of now we don't need Sessions, but he would be good for the future. But I believe that we shouldn't trade for Sessions, we still have Baron.

[loflin3hree5ive]

Would probably do a trade with some combo of Thornton and Mike Taylor along with a filler like Ricky Davis.

Something around Davis' expiring along with Thornton and/or Taylor is the only thing that makes sense to me. Camby is the only other guy who fits into Milwaukee's plans on the Clippers roster being that he's an expiring, but Milwaukee would then have to add more salary to match.

[RamonNLuc]

Bucks fan here. What would you guys be willing to give up for Ramon. i want Thornton or Camby from you guys. Would you give them up for Ramon who's a great young point guard. 44 points against Detroit last season and the franchise record for assists in a game all ready all while being a second round pick says quite enough. How high do you value Thornton? I think he's a pretty darn good forward and is still young ready to ooze with improvement and even greater possible potential. Am I crazy??? Give me Clipper inside info on Al could you? Good guy? Productive etc. ???? Thanks so much and I really feel for the Clipps I do living in the Lakers shadow so to say and all. You guys definantly have some of the top fans in the game of Basketball. I respect that alot. You fans are loyal and dedicated and that's what I love. If i lived in LA i'd be a clipper fan instead of a Fakers fan( oh crap I've really done it now Peace guys. I hope you guys truly have a great standout season like the one in 06. Time to respect the Clipps hey? So in the words of Clipper Darrel lol " Let's Go Clippers" and don't be 100% fooled I am a big time major Bucks fan and they're my team forever I just have a ton of outmost RESPECT for the clippers and they're organization. Good luck and get me some info for my Bucks please. Thanks.

[RamonNLuc]

Lol, sorry if that post was kind of long.

[jflipclip]

I do not want to trade Thornton and end up with Barnes. Barnes cannot replace Thornton. Good rebounder? OK. Glue guy? Reaching a bit. Can replace Thornton as a starter? Hell no.

[illastrate]

I do not want to trade Thornton and end up with Barnes. Barnes cannot replace Thornton. Good rebounder? OK. Glue guy? Reaching a bit. Can replace Thornton as a starter? Hell no.

Why do we, as Clipper fans, overrate Thornton? I think he's a good player. But Barnes could definitely replace Thornton as a starter. He's not as gifted offensively, but he's a better shooter, passer, and defender. Those are things you want from your starting SF. If we don't trade him for Sessions, I think we should sign Barnes as our starter and give the instant offense 6th man role to Thornton, which would be perfect for him.

[PlinkingPanda]

I do not want to trade Thornton and end up with Barnes. Barnes cannot replace Thornton. Good rebounder? OK. Glue guy? Reaching a bit. Can replace Thornton as a starter? Hell no.

Why do we, as Clipper fans, overrate Thornton? I think he's a good player. But Barnes could definitely replace Thornton as a starter. He's not as gifted offensively, but he's a better shooter, passer, and defender. Those are things you want from your starting SF. If we don't trade him for Sessions, I think we should sign Barnes as our starter and give the instant offense 6th man role to Thornton, which would be perfect for him.

Or get James Singleton!

James is better than Al in just about everything but scoring. I don't get why this guy is so under appreciated.

[RamonNLuc]

So basically as Clippers fans you would simply have to just compare Thornton with Charlie Villenueva?

[illastrate]

I do not want to trade Thornton and end up with Barnes. Barnes cannot replace Thornton. Good rebounder? OK. Glue guy? Reaching a bit. Can replace Thornton as a starter? Hell no.

Why do we, as Clipper fans, overrate Thornton? I think he's a good player. But Barnes could definitely replace Thornton as a starter. He's not as gifted offensively, but he's a better shooter, passer, and defender. Those are things you want from your starting SF. If we don't trade him for Sessions, I think we should sign Barnes as our starter and give the instant offense 6th man role to Thornton, which would be perfect for him.

Or get James Singleton!

James is better than Al in just about everything but scoring. I don't get why this guy is so under appreciated.

I was a Jumpin James fan, it was Dumbleavy who messed it up. He ran him out of LA. Granted, Brand was our PF at the time, but he could've used James a lot more instead of giving minutes to that stiff known as Tim Thomas.

[jflipclip]

I do not want to trade Thornton and end up with Barnes. Barnes cannot replace Thornton. Good rebounder? OK. Glue guy? Reaching a bit. Can replace Thornton as a starter? Hell no.

Why do we, as Clipper fans, overrate Thornton? I think he's a good player. But Barnes could definitely replace Thornton as a starter. He's not as gifted offensively, but he's a better shooter, passer, and defender. Those are things you want from your starting SF. If we don't trade him for Sessions, I think we should sign Barnes as our starter and give the instant offense 6th man role to Thornton, which would be perfect for him.

I didn't say anything to overrate Thornton. I just said Barnes isn't any better. I think you're overrating Barnes. You make him sound like Battier, yet he's not close to Battier.

Thornton certainly isn't the best option at SF if we acquire someone through FA or trade, but right now he's the cheapest option. Still has the athleticism to do all of those things you just said: shoot, pass, and defend. Why spend money on Barnes when he can do all those things marginally better (or worse) than Thornton?