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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#21 » by Manster7588 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:50 pm

Romotodez wrote:So 9 or 10 in the box, with Dez outside with some poor Cb that's by himself- you would run it every time. When have you ever wanted him to throw it out of the end zone.


9 or 10 on the box? I'm sure your overstating to make a point, but if this is the case I'm sure you won't find too many complain if they throw the ball.

As for throwing out of the end zone there have been many here saying Romo needs to learn to just throw the ball away when there's nothing available. Hell Romo said he needs to do a better job at knowing when to just throw the ball away.
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Post#22 » by Manster7588 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:52 pm

Besides if there's 9 or 10 in the box we won't have to worry about if the team is running or passing.
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Post#23 » by Romotodez » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:12 pm

I mean 9 or 10 around the line of scrimmage with Dez one on one. As far as throwing the ball away, I disagree. Throwing the ball away on third downs gets you field goals. I want him buying time - that's what makes him good. Kyle Orton is the master at throwing the ball away and not taking sacks. I watched him last night. Cameron Wake was a non factor because he got rid of it so quick. It got the Bills 9 points, should have been 12- they missed a fg. But it also cost them 2 on the safety. Telling Romo to throw it away is like telling RG3 to slide. It's hard. Usually when he does throw it away he gets a flag. If he gets sacked in the red zone Bailey will still make the K.
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Post#24 » by Manster7588 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:38 pm

Romotodez wrote:I mean 9 or 10 around the line of scrimmage with Dez one on one. As far as throwing the ball away, I disagree. Throwing the ball away on third downs gets you field goals. I want him buying time - that's what makes him good. Kyle Orton is the master at throwing the ball away and not taking sacks. I watched him last night. Cameron Wake was a non factor because he got rid of it so quick. It got the Bills 9 points, should have been 12- they missed a fg. But it also cost them 2 on the safety. Telling Romo to throw it away is like telling RG3 to slide. It's hard. Usually when he does throw it away he gets a flag. If he gets sacked in the red zone Bailey will still make the K.


Well I'd say a FG is better than an INT, but that's just me.

Since you changed it from 9 -10 in the box to simply 9-10 on the LOS that could mean 7 in the box, 3 in press coverage and a safety deep. I'd see this as a run able formation.
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Post#25 » by Romotodez » Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:50 pm

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Romotodez wrote:I mean 9 or 10 around the line of scrimmage with Dez one on one. As far as throwing the ball away, I disagree. Throwing the ball away on third downs gets you field goals. I want him buying time - that's what makes him good. Kyle Orton is the master at throwing the ball away and not taking sacks. I watched him last night. Cameron Wake was a non factor because he got rid of it so quick. It got the Bills 9 points, should have been 12- they missed a fg. But it also cost them 2 on the safety. Telling Romo to throw it away is like telling RG3 to slide. It's hard. Usually when he does throw it away he gets a flag. If he gets sacked in the red zone Bailey will still make the K.


Well I'd say a FG is better than an INT, but that's just me.

Since you changed it from 9 -10 in the box to simply 9-10 on the LOS that could mean 7 in the box, 3 in press coverage and a safety deep. I'd see this as a run able formation.


I agree, I would rather have a fg than a pick as well but I trust him. He has thrown it through the end zone before but he is going to do his damnedest to make a play though.
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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#26 » by Jarntt » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:10 pm

Romotodez wrote:So 9 or 10 in the box, with Dez outside with some poor Cb that's by himself- you would run it every time. When have you ever wanted him to throw it out of the end zone.


9 in the box on the goalline would be unusual if only DEz was split wide?
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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#27 » by Romotodez » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:17 pm

Jarntt wrote:
Romotodez wrote:So 9 or 10 in the box, with Dez outside with some poor Cb that's by himself- you would run it every time. When have you ever wanted him to throw it out of the end zone.


9 in the box on the goalline would be unusual if only DEz was split wide?



Basically the same defense he catches the majority of his TDs on.
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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#28 » by Jarntt » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:44 pm

Romotodez wrote:So 9 or 10 in the box, with Dez outside with some poor Cb that's by himself- you would run it every time. When have you ever wanted him to throw it out of the end zone.


I didn't say every time. It's 2 yards. If you commit on first down to run its twice you likely get it with one of those two carries. Why risk throwing if you don't have too and the OL and your RB have been the strength of your team? How often has this team struggled to get two yards? Plus when you start to develop a trend of running it often at the goal line the PAP to guys like Hanna wide open mysteriously starts to be there...

Throw it out of the back of the end zone every time he is about to get sacked or throw a pick. Seemed like it happened at least 5 times last year.
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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#29 » by PDay8810 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:16 am

Jarntt wrote:
Romotodez wrote:So 9 or 10 in the box, with Dez outside with some poor Cb that's by himself- you would run it every time. When have you ever wanted him to throw it out of the end zone.


I didn't say every time. It's 2 yards. If you commit on first down to run its twice you likely get it with one of those two carries. Why risk throwing if you don't have too and the OL and your RB have been the strength of your team? How often has this team struggled to get two yards? Plus when you start to develop a trend of running it often at the goal line the PAP to guys like Hanna wide open mysteriously starts to be there...

Throw it out of the back of the end zone every time he is about to get sacked or throw a pick. Seemed like it happened at least 5 times last year.

Interesting conversation on Cowherd's show today about int's. He was talking about Andrew Luck's 18 picks last year and saying only 7 were bad int's ( inside your 20 or their 20 that directly lead to points) Talked about many were just change of poss. that didn't hurt the team. I thought the conversation was interesting because it stressed passing DOWN the field, which will result in some ints....which I agree with but necessary in football. Now Tony? well there lies the reputation because he 's had his share of those killer ints that directly results into points. It just seems those SF type games remain a part of the resume.
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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#30 » by Romotodez » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:46 am

Bad INTs?? Colin must be off his Brady man crush and has found his new love in Luck. The only knock one can possibly have on LUck is INTS. Sounds like Colin is protecting his boy somewhat. The only INT that I can't say is bad is a Hail Mary at the end of a half. Sure some are worse than others but they are all bad whether they are on the Qb or not. Now when we talk about throwing it through the back of the end zone or not Romo is listed as having 1 but I think it should be 2 red zone picks this season. He is listed for having 1 last season and 3 in the last 3 seasons.
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Post#31 » by Romotodez » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:03 am

Just wondering did Colin happen to mention anything about Luck's playoff performance last yr. How many of those 7 did he consider bad? I'm not meaning any disrespect to Luck at all. I think he is the real deal. I just really think that is a crazy statement by Cowherd. Ints that don't cost you points or keep you from points really don't matter. I just disagree
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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#32 » by PDay8810 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:28 pm

Romotodez wrote:Just wondering did Colin happen to mention anything about Luck's playoff performance last yr. How many of those 7 did he consider bad? I'm not meaning any disrespect to Luck at all. I think he is the real deal. I just really think that is a crazy statement by Cowherd. Ints that don't cost you points or keep you from points really don't matter. I just disagree

the point was you can't be afraid to throw the ball down the field.
Otherwise all games would be as the Fins/Bills game on Thursday.
Don't feel insecure about Romo....it's all good
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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#33 » by Romotodez » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:29 pm

I think you know how I feel about Romo. I want the ball in his hands.
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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#34 » by Manster7588 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:13 pm

PDay8810 wrote:
Romotodez wrote:Just wondering did Colin happen to mention anything about Luck's playoff performance last yr. How many of those 7 did he consider bad? I'm not meaning any disrespect to Luck at all. I think he is the real deal. I just really think that is a crazy statement by Cowherd. Ints that don't cost you points or keep you from points really don't matter. I just disagree

the point was you can't be afraid to throw the ball down the field.
Otherwise all games would be as the Fins/Bills game on Thursday.
Don't feel insecure about Romo....it's all good


Yep, a throw or two 40, 50 yards down field keeps that in the defenses minds.
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Re: Does Murray get 2000 yards? 

Post#35 » by Jarntt » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:59 am

Manster7588 wrote:
PDay8810 wrote:
Romotodez wrote:Just wondering did Colin happen to mention anything about Luck's playoff performance last yr. How many of those 7 did he consider bad? I'm not meaning any disrespect to Luck at all. I think he is the real deal. I just really think that is a crazy statement by Cowherd. Ints that don't cost you points or keep you from points really don't matter. I just disagree

the point was you can't be afraid to throw the ball down the field.
Otherwise all games would be as the Fins/Bills game on Thursday.
Don't feel insecure about Romo....it's all good


Yep, a throw or two 40, 50 yards down field keeps that in the defenses minds.


And a pick on a 50 yard bomb is really just a punt anyway. Doesn't hurt much

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