NL MVP Candidates?

Rodanlee · Post #41 » by **Rodanlee** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:49 pm

in terms of being most valuable to his team... i'd say chase utley... but he did miss a few games so i'm just gonna have to go with Matt Holliday, and he could win it especially w/ the extra publicity towards him at the HR Derby

Post #42 » by **kingofthecourt67** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:53 am

Not even ONE mention of Brandon Phillips. I completely understand that he probably has no shot at this award simply because his team blows. But I would just like to point his numbers so the Reds players are not forgotten because we basically have no publicity and its a shame with players like Phillips and Harang(15-4).

Here is Phillips stat-line(1 HR away from a 30-30 season). I compared his numbers to 2B in the NL just to prove a point that he deserves some attention.

142 Games(2nd), 590 ABs(1st), 100 runs(2nd), 170 hits(2nd), 6 triples(3rd), 29 HR(T-1st), 85 RBIs(2nd), 30 SB(T-1st), .288 AVG(6th), .497 SLG(3rd), .830 OPS(4th).

He also has had a gold-glove caliber season at 2b while hitting well. I should mention he was hitting in 4th in the batting order in the last month-2 months.

bigboy1234 · Post #43 » by **bigboy1234** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:07 am

I think you forgot to mention Phillips' .336 OBP.

mattbulls · Post #44 » by **mattbulls** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:09 am

Aramis Ramirez

Post #45 » by **TyCobb** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:38 pm

Brandon Webb for the win.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #46 » by **Buck You** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:40 pm

bigboy1234 wrote:I think you forgot to mention Phillips' .336 OBP.

.. and all of his strikeouts. But he does put up numbers.

SportsWorld · Post #47 » by **SportsWorld** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:52 pm

mattbulls wrote:Aramis Ramirez

Who?

Post #48 » by **kingofthecourt67** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:35 pm

Yes, well every player does have his flaws but the numbers are there and there is no way you can deny them.

YungNeef · Post #49 » by **YungNeef** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:09 am

Problem with Phillips is that his numbers does not blow any of the other guys' out the water and the other guys have a shot at making the playoffs.

bigboy1234 · Post #50 » by **bigboy1234** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:26 am

The problem with Phillips is his horrible OBP. The last time there was an MVP with a OBP lower than .350 was in 1987 when Andre Dawson somehow won it.

Post #51 » by **kingofthecourt67** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:36 am

kingofthecourt67 wrote:Not even ONE mention of Brandon Phillips. I completely understand that he probably has no shot at this award simply because his team blows. But I would just like to point his numbers so the Reds players are not forgotten because we basically have no publicity and its a shame with players like Phillips and Harang(15-4).

Here is Phillips stat-line(1 HR away from a 30-30 season). I compared his numbers to 2B in the NL just to prove a point that he deserves some attention.
142 Games(2nd), 590 ABs(1st), 100 runs(2nd), 170 hits(2nd), 6 triples(3rd), 29 HR(T-1st), 85 RBIs(2nd), 30 SB(T-1st), .288 AVG(6th), .497 SLG(3rd), .830 OPS(4th).

He also has had a gold-glove caliber season at 2b while hitting well. I should mention he was hitting in 4th in the batting order in the last month-2 months.

Edit: And just for the record, Jimmy Rollins, another one of the major MVP candidates has a OBP of .347, only 11 points higher than Brandon Phillips.

Post #52 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:39 am

A person with a .840 OPS in this era does not deserve to be in consideration for MVP, especially when his team sucks

Black Jesus 1 · Post #53 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:03 am

TyCobb wrote:Brandon Webb for the win.

Not even close. He's going to be edged in the Cy Young as well, Peavy locked it up.

oakfanintheeast · Post #54 » by **oakfanintheeast** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:16 am

chippper chipper chipper....holiday close second.

livestrong4ever · Post #55 » by **livestrong4ever** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:10 am

oakfanintheeast wrote:chippper chipper chipper....holiday close second.

and fielder off on anther planet?

oakfanintheeast · Post #56 » by **oakfanintheeast** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:29 pm

livestrong4ever wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

and fielder off on anther planet?

he's up there, im just not in love with homeruns like the rest of the world.

livestrong4ever · Post #57 » by **livestrong4ever** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:43 am

oakfanintheeast wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

he's up there, im just not in love with homeruns like the rest of the world.

he leads chipper jones in runs and rbis.

so i would put him ahead of him.

oakfanintheeast · Post #58 » by **oakfanintheeast** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:16 pm

runs and rbis are a product of your team... so they can be inflated or deflated.

Fielder RISP: .265/.419/.504
Jones RISP: .307/.424/.591

see, jones is super"clutch" !!!!

L-Burna89 · Post #59 » by **L-Burna89** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:50 am

This man.....no question about it.

livestrong4ever · Post #60 » by **livestrong4ever** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:24 am

oakfanintheeast wrote:runs and rbis are a product of your team... so they can be inflated or deflated.

Fielder RISP: .265/.419/.504
Jones RISP: .307/.424/.591

see, jones is super"clutch" !!!!

bring up the one stat besides average that jones is leading in. good job my man