ImageImageImageImage

Jerry... Jerry... Jerry...

Moderator: Texas Chuck

bluejerseyjinx
RealGM
Posts: 20,599
And1: 4,455
Joined: Oct 18, 2014
Location: Maine
       

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#161 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:43 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Jerry isn't selling "snake oil" here.

Cooper Rush is actually a very solid QB

He’s been very solid correct but don’t forget, not only was he cut by the Giants 2 seasons ago but was was cut this year and available to every team in the NFL and absolutely no one wanted him. Hell half the Cowboys fans wanted Will Grier over him.

Now tell me which is more likely, that the scaled back offense and surprise play of Tyler Smith at LT (not to mention the defense giving good field position) has really helped Rush, or that Rush is now all of a sudden better than Dak?

I know Cooper Rush is not Dak Prescott. My personal opinion about what Jerry was trying to "sell" is that he intended to create a QB controversy because he views that as healthy and TBH I don't see why it isn't. I've been voicing that in here without reply. All it's going to do is make each of them play harder. Give Cooper the impression that if he keeps it up he can be a starting QB in the NFL. Give Dak motivation to play harder.

They are both stand up guys and I can't imagine something like that causing friction with them.

After 7 years of catering and giving Dak everything he needs to be successful, Jerry feels he needs to motivate him after he got his contract, weapons, new coach, etc,. :ouch: :thinking: :confused:
User avatar
Micah Prescott
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,575
And1: 1,725
Joined: Aug 25, 2021
     

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#162 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:09 pm

Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
Mr B wrote:He’s been very solid correct but don’t forget, not only was he cut by the Giants 2 seasons ago but was was cut this year and available to every team in the NFL and absolutely no one wanted him. Hell half the Cowboys fans wanted Will Grier over him.

Now tell me which is more likely, that the scaled back offense and surprise play of Tyler Smith at LT (not to mention the defense giving good field position) has really helped Rush, or that Rush is now all of a sudden better than Dak?

I know Cooper Rush is not Dak Prescott. My personal opinion about what Jerry was trying to "sell" is that he intended to create a QB controversy because he views that as healthy and TBH I don't see why it isn't. I've been voicing that in here without reply. All it's going to do is make each of them play harder. Give Cooper the impression that if he keeps it up he can be a starting QB in the NFL. Give Dak motivation to play harder.

They are both stand up guys and I can't imagine something like that causing friction with them.

I think the reason it’s not a good idea (from my opinion) is Jerry has always felt this team thrives on controversy. Those of us that have followed this team since before he bought the team knows that’s not true. Jerry is a salesman and wants his team talked about regardless if it is good or bad news. Cooper Rush has done a great job driving the bus but don’t you think it would make his job a lot easier if he didn’t have to answer all the dumbass questions about a QB controversy? How about just let things be and let Cooper concentrate on the job at hand.

I think overall it's harmless. Zeke's take when asked by the media was basically "oh that's just Jerry being Jerry"

If Dallas keeps winning the media (and fans) will create a much more real controversy though. But like Jerry's reaction, we should want that! That means we are winning. Best case scenario Cooper plays amazing, the Cowboys win all games, and all of NFL land is questioning who should be QB in Dallas.

All players have to go through that. Since high school they've had to beat out other players. Most NFL players will eventually be replaced by another player. Competition within a team is part of the game.

And the times when this kind of thing is harmful? It's usually because one of the players involved is an immature d-bag. Or it's a rare situation like Rodgers wasting his youth sitting to Favre. We don't have that kind of situation with Dak and Cooper.
User avatar
Micah Prescott
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,575
And1: 1,725
Joined: Aug 25, 2021
     

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#163 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:15 pm

I think if anyone on the team deserves to create "drama" it is probably Pollard who is the better RB on the team but makes significantly less money.

Maybe Sam Williams too who was an elite pass rusher in college but isn't getting any playing time to prove he can be that in the NFL.
bluejerseyjinx
RealGM
Posts: 20,599
And1: 4,455
Joined: Oct 18, 2014
Location: Maine
       

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#164 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:29 pm

I told everyone in here 2 years ago Pollard was the better back. Your finally coming around to it? Day late and a dollar short on that one just like Jerry is always a day late and a dollar short. Maybe not a dollar short. He has tons of them.
User avatar
Micah Prescott
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,575
And1: 1,725
Joined: Aug 25, 2021
     

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#165 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:19 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:I told everyone in here 2 years ago Pollard was the better back. Your finally coming around to it? Day late and a dollar short on that one just like Jerry is always a day late and a dollar short. Maybe not a dollar short. He has tons of them.

Jerry is a day late on Pollard? He's the one who drafted the guy in the 4th round :lol:

He's just going to need to actually pay him after this season.
Mr B
RealGM
Posts: 17,219
And1: 5,091
Joined: Nov 20, 2014
         

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#166 » by Mr B » Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:20 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:I told everyone in here 2 years ago Pollard was the better back. Your finally coming around to it? Day late and a dollar short on that one just like Jerry is always a day late and a dollar short. Maybe not a dollar short. He has tons of them.

I don’t think that was exactly breaking news there. Everyone can see Pollard is the better runner. It’s all the other things that Zeke that Pollard has not been good at, specifically blocking.

I personally don’t care which one starts as long as they are producing.
User avatar
Micah Prescott
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,575
And1: 1,725
Joined: Aug 25, 2021
     

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#167 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:27 pm

Both had a solid game vs. Giants. Pollard is the more explosive runner, looks faster and much quicker off the snap. And yeah Zeke is much better at pass protection.

They're probably around equal at receiving. Maybe slight edge to Pollard there.
bluejerseyjinx
RealGM
Posts: 20,599
And1: 4,455
Joined: Oct 18, 2014
Location: Maine
       

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#168 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Oct 6, 2022 6:58 pm

Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:I told everyone in here 2 years ago Pollard was the better back. Your finally coming around to it? Day late and a dollar short on that one just like Jerry is always a day late and a dollar short. Maybe not a dollar short. He has tons of them.

I don’t think that was exactly breaking news there. Everyone can see Pollard is the better runner. It’s all the other things that Zeke that Pollard has not been good at, specifically blocking.

I personally don’t care which one starts as long as they are producing.

All other what? I'll give you Elliot is a better blocker, but that's it. Pollard is not only the better runner, he is also much better pass catcher. I have no faith at all with Zeke's pass catching ability.
Mr B
RealGM
Posts: 17,219
And1: 5,091
Joined: Nov 20, 2014
         

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#169 » by Mr B » Thu Oct 6, 2022 10:06 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:I told everyone in here 2 years ago Pollard was the better back. Your finally coming around to it? Day late and a dollar short on that one just like Jerry is always a day late and a dollar short. Maybe not a dollar short. He has tons of them.

I don’t think that was exactly breaking news there. Everyone can see Pollard is the better runner. It’s all the other things that Zeke that Pollard has not been good at, specifically blocking.

I personally don’t care which one starts as long as they are producing.

All other what? I'll give you Elliot is a better blocker, but that's it. Pollard is not only the better runner, he is also much better pass catcher. I have no faith at all with Zeke's pass catching ability.

I keep hearing he’s the better pass catcher but he has yet to actually have a big game catching the ball. I wouldn’t say he’s clearly better than Zeke in area at all, not based on what he’s done so far in the league.
User avatar
Micah Prescott
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,575
And1: 1,725
Joined: Aug 25, 2021
     

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#170 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Oct 7, 2022 3:27 pm



Zeke the WR
bluejerseyjinx
RealGM
Posts: 20,599
And1: 4,455
Joined: Oct 18, 2014
Location: Maine
       

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#171 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Oct 7, 2022 4:09 pm

Zeke sucks as a pass catching Rb and I don't give a damn what any of you think about that so you can cut out the trolling on that one. Case closed.
User avatar
Micah Prescott
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,575
And1: 1,725
Joined: Aug 25, 2021
     

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#172 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Oct 7, 2022 5:11 pm

"sucks" is definitely too strong of a word, you don't have to be so over the top with it. Zeke is not a Marshall Faulk type at catching that is for sure but he is better at it than pure runners like Adrian Peterson. He's somewhere in the middle. I'd label Zeke "average" at receiving.
Mr B
RealGM
Posts: 17,219
And1: 5,091
Joined: Nov 20, 2014
         

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#173 » by Mr B » Fri Oct 7, 2022 6:16 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:"sucks" is definitely too strong of a word, you don't have to be so over the top with it. Zeke is not a Marshall Faulk type at catching that is for sure but he is better at it than pure runners like Adrian Peterson. He's somewhere in the middle. I'd label Zeke "average" at receiving.

Not to mention that was a strength of his coming out of Ohio St. If anything I would put that on the Cowboys coaches for not utilizing that part of his game more often.

And who’s trolling? This is a discussion board, if I don’t agree with what you’re saying we’re here to discuss it right?

Also Pollard still has not proven he’s this elite receiving back I keep hearing about. Again though, that is on Kellen Moore.
bluejerseyjinx
RealGM
Posts: 20,599
And1: 4,455
Joined: Oct 18, 2014
Location: Maine
       

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#174 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:10 pm

Zeke sucks. Sorry you guys can't see it or admit it. The substance abusing molly whore has cashed out his body and mind. I bet the titty bars and night clubs love taking his money as he gets serviced by the most prominent women in Texas however. Frankly I'm surprised Jerry doesn't invite Zeke into his limo when goes out looking for women late at night. They make a nice pair.
bluejerseyjinx
RealGM
Posts: 20,599
And1: 4,455
Joined: Oct 18, 2014
Location: Maine
       

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#175 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:16 pm

Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:"sucks" is definitely too strong of a word, you don't have to be so over the top with it. Zeke is not a Marshall Faulk type at catching that is for sure but he is better at it than pure runners like Adrian Peterson. He's somewhere in the middle. I'd label Zeke "average" at receiving.

Not to mention that was a strength of his coming out of Ohio St. If anything I would put that on the Cowboys coaches for not utilizing that part of his game more often.

And who’s trolling? This is a discussion board, if I don’t agree with what you’re saying we’re here to discuss it right?

Also Pollard still has not proven he’s this elite receiving back I keep hearing about. Again though, that is on Kellen Moore.

Then lets give Pollard a chance to prove it. We already know Zeke can't get it done unless he has a stacked O-line and all kinds of weapons around him to keep everyone honest like his tenure at Ohio State. Of all the poster in here Mr. B, you would be the very last person I would expect to defend Zeke. Wow.
Mr B
RealGM
Posts: 17,219
And1: 5,091
Joined: Nov 20, 2014
         

Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#176 » by Mr B » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:37 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:"sucks" is definitely too strong of a word, you don't have to be so over the top with it. Zeke is not a Marshall Faulk type at catching that is for sure but he is better at it than pure runners like Adrian Peterson. He's somewhere in the middle. I'd label Zeke "average" at receiving.

Not to mention that was a strength of his coming out of Ohio St. If anything I would put that on the Cowboys coaches for not utilizing that part of his game more often.

And who’s trolling? This is a discussion board, if I don’t agree with what you’re saying we’re here to discuss it right?

Also Pollard still has not proven he’s this elite receiving back I keep hearing about. Again though, that is on Kellen Moore.

Then lets give Pollard a chance to prove it. We already know Zeke can't get it done unless he has a stacked O-line and all kinds of weapons around him to keep everyone honest like his tenure at Ohio State. Of all the poster in here Mr. B, you would be the very last person I would expect to defend Zeke. Wow.

I just personally don’t give a crap about his off the field life. Especially nothing he did in college or his first year in the league. I just care about his performance on the field. And so far this year he’s been great at being the power back and compliment to Pollard.
bluejerseyjinx
RealGM
Posts: 20,599
And1: 4,455
Joined: Oct 18, 2014
Location: Maine
       

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#177 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:56 pm

If his off the field life is affecting his mind, body and performance, how can we ignore it?
Mr B
RealGM
Posts: 17,219
And1: 5,091
Joined: Nov 20, 2014
         

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#178 » by Mr B » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:44 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:If his off the field life is affecting his mind, body and performance, how can we ignore it?

Again, he’s been a really good compliment to Pollard. He’s not the same player he was coming out of Ohio St. He’s not a game breaker anymore. He’s the “thunder” to Pollard’s “lightning”. He’s been good in that role so I can’t say that it is effecting his performance. Not this year anyways. In past seasons sure, but not the last couple of seasons.
User avatar
Micah Prescott
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,575
And1: 1,725
Joined: Aug 25, 2021
     

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#179 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Oct 13, 2022 6:18 pm

Yep it's kind of like Marion Barber and Felix Jones all over again.

Zeke is a "grinder" he bullys the hard yardage, and Pollard is a speedy homerun hitter who comes in on a worn down defense.

I actually think the way they are playing the two of them is spot on. I don't want them to change a thing.
Mr B
RealGM
Posts: 17,219
And1: 5,091
Joined: Nov 20, 2014
         

Re: Jerry... Jerry... Jerry... 

Post#180 » by Mr B » Fri Oct 14, 2022 1:43 am

Well BJJ if there ever was a chance to get Jerry out, this might be the beginning. We all know that the league has been trying to get rid of Dan Snyder. Well apparently he hired a P.I. and had every NFL (including Jerry) investigated and is saying he now has dirt on Roger Goodell and every owner. He was quoted as saying something like “they can’t —-k with me, I have dirt on all of them.

Also he was apparently the one that leaked the John Gruden emails that ultimately got him fired from the Raiders. “Allegedly” he did that to prove to the owners that he actually has dirt. Jerry is good friends with Snyder and recently was heard saying that he won’t be able to protect Snyder anymore.

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=D3cvnboHFSjNGJjGPqI08g

Return to Dallas Cowboys