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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#161 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:40 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Also, Fwiw this draft is widely viewed as one with not a ton of blue chip studs at the top of the draft. There are reports that teams have less than 10 guys with first round caliber grades on draft boards. In other words, this is not the year to have a top 10-12 pick.


That’s OK. After a couple of Top Ten teams in the draft take overrated QB’s that have no business being drafted in the top ten picks, the Cowboys will be sitting there waiting for Jeanty to drop right into their laps.







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Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward will without a doubt be drafted in the top 10. I also think once the Combine is over there will be another QB that will climb into the top 10 (my guess is Milroe).
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#162 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:41 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Also, Fwiw this draft is widely viewed as one with not a ton of blue chip studs at the top of the draft. There are reports that teams have less than 10 guys with first round caliber grades on draft boards. In other words, this is not the year to have a top 10-12 pick.


That’s OK. After a couple of Top Ten teams in the draft take overrated QB’s that have no business being drafted in the top ten picks, the Cowboys will be sitting there waiting for Jeanty to drop right into their laps.







:meditate:

Honestly, I would be a little surprised if he didn't get taken within the first 10 picks. But I could see him ending up in Dallas.

When you look at the needs of the players above Dallas I don’t see any of them drafted by Jeanty. If they do though that means one of those OL have fallen to Dallas.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#163 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:46 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Yeah I am good with Jeanty. He could be a game changer and we are seeing this season just how valuable elite RBs can actually be.

He is probably the only non-defender I would want. I'll be really upset if we took a WR in the first. I'm scared they might consider that TE Warren when I love Ferguson.

I'd be good if they took one of the CBs. Probably Will Johnson won't be there but Barron will be.

Tetairoa McMillan won’t fall to 12 and 12 is too high to draft Luther Burden or Emeka Egbuka. The only way they take a WR is in a trade down scenario. If they do trade down (gaining an extra 1st or 2nd) I would not be upset with Luther Burden. The Cowboys need a WR and he’s the better play maker of the two (in my opinion). I would only want Burden in a trade down scenario though.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#164 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:18 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Also, Fwiw this draft is widely viewed as one with not a ton of blue chip studs at the top of the draft. There are reports that teams have less than 10 guys with first round caliber grades on draft boards. In other words, this is not the year to have a top 10-12 pick.

I also think once the Combine is over there will be another QB that will climb into the top 10 (my guess is Milroe).

Well, there's no chance of that happening. The reports on Milroe from the Senior Bowl aren't great. He also measured out with small hands. His film from this past season isn't great either. He won't be picked in the 1st round. That's pretty much a given at this point.

Both Ward & Sanders will be picked apart by teams throughout the process. You might only get one of the two taken that early if we're being honest.

I've said from the beginning that teams who study Shedeur closely will come away less impressed by him. Especially as we get closer to the draft.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#165 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:36 pm

Is 12 too high for Texas CB Jahdae Barron?

I want him.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#166 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:51 pm

Will McClay - 5 year extension

There are a few people associated with this team I will never bitch about. He may well be at the very top of that list.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#167 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:20 pm

Small hands...

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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#168 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:39 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Also, Fwiw this draft is widely viewed as one with not a ton of blue chip studs at the top of the draft. There are reports that teams have less than 10 guys with first round caliber grades on draft boards. In other words, this is not the year to have a top 10-12 pick.

I also think once the Combine is over there will be another QB that will climb into the top 10 (my guess is Milroe).

Well, there's no chance of that happening. The reports on Milroe from the Senior Bowl aren't great. He also measured out with small hands. His film from this past season isn't great either. He won't be picked in the 1st round. That's pretty much a given at this point.

Both Ward & Sanders will be picked apart by teams throughout the process. You might only get one of the two taken that early if we're being honest.

I've said from the beginning that teams who study Shedeur closely will come away less impressed by him. Especially as we get closer to the draft.

You’re crazy if you think Sanders and Ward aren’t going in the top 5. Especially in a weak draft. I haven’t read anything on Milroe from the Senior Bowl but I do know that teams do like him and other than the small hands if he has a good showing at the Combine or at Bama’s Pro Day he should sneak into the 1st round. If he plays well AND has a good showing he will shoot up the boards.

Don’t underestimate how many teams are QB starved. Remember it only takes 1 dumb GM and we see at least 1 dumb GM every year over draft a QB. Also don’t confuse top 100 with where players will actually get drafted. We see teams every year that don’t stick to the BPA rule.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#169 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:39 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Is 12 too high for Texas CB Jahdae Barron?

I want him.

Yes
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#170 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:39 pm

Otis Driftwood wrote:Will McClay - 5 year extension

There are a few people associated with this team I will never bitch about. He may well be at the very top of that list.

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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#171 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:40 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Small hands...

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This won’t matter if he has a good showing at the Combine or Bama’s Pro Day.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#172 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:51 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Small hands...

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This won’t matter if he has a good showing at the Combine or Bama’s Pro Day.

Oh, it absolutely will.

His film isn't good enough to justify taking a swing on him. His measurements will only detract what value he does have.

Anthony Richardson was a top 5 pick because from a physical standpoint he was a 10. He had size, and every measurable was off the charts.

Jalen is undersized.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#173 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:05 pm

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Mr B wrote:I also think once the Combine is over there will be another QB that will climb into the top 10 (my guess is Milroe).

Well, there's no chance of that happening. The reports on Milroe from the Senior Bowl aren't great. He also measured out with small hands. His film from this past season isn't great either. He won't be picked in the 1st round. That's pretty much a given at this point.

Both Ward & Sanders will be picked apart by teams throughout the process. You might only get one of the two taken that early if we're being honest.

I've said from the beginning that teams who study Shedeur closely will come away less impressed by him. Especially as we get closer to the draft.

You’re crazy if you think Sanders and Ward aren’t going in the top 5.

It's very possible. You're going to get a wide variety of opinions on both guys. Some teams might not view either one as 1st round material. I've seen most draft analysts say that both would be QB 5 or 6 at best in last year's draft.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#174 » by azcatz11 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:23 pm

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Mr B wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Well, there's no chance of that happening. The reports on Milroe from the Senior Bowl aren't great. He also measured out with small hands. His film from this past season isn't great either. He won't be picked in the 1st round. That's pretty much a given at this point.

Both Ward & Sanders will be picked apart by teams throughout the process. You might only get one of the two taken that early if we're being honest.

I've said from the beginning that teams who study Shedeur closely will come away less impressed by him. Especially as we get closer to the draft.

You’re crazy if you think Sanders and Ward aren’t going in the top 5.

It's very possible. You're going to get a wide variety of opinions on both guys. Some teams might not view either one as 1st round material. I've seen most draft analysts say that both would be QB 5 or 6 at best in last year's draft.


I'd be pretty surprised.

Titans, Browns, Giants & Raiders all need QB. Even if the Titans move out of that draft slot...I think it's a lock they both go top 5.

This draft seems awful tbh. I'm looking at mocks and it seems like everyone in the first round is just....kind of a role player in NFL terms I guess. Besides Abdul Carter, who are you excited about? Tyler Warren?
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#175 » by Mr B » Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:56 am

I’m hearing Cowboys plan to make Osa a priority this off season.

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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#176 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:01 am

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Mr B wrote:You’re crazy if you think Sanders and Ward aren’t going in the top 5.

It's very possible. You're going to get a wide variety of opinions on both guys. Some teams might not view either one as 1st round material. I've seen most draft analysts say that both would be QB 5 or 6 at best in last year's draft.


I'd be pretty surprised.

Titans, Browns, Giants & Raiders all need QB. Even if the Titans move out of that draft slot...I think it's a lock they both go top 5.

This draft seems awful tbh. I'm looking at mocks and it seems like everyone in the first round is just....kind of a role player in NFL terms I guess. Besides Abdul Carter, who are you excited about? Tyler Warren?

There are only a handful of guys that I'd have my eye on early. Definitely not a great draft. But again, I wouldn't assume that every team values the QB's in this draft. Whether it's a need or not.

My attention has mainly been on the lineman this year for the Hawks.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#177 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:48 am

Mr B wrote:I’m hearing Cowboys plan to make Osa a priority this off season.

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He had an off year this season. Not sure what happened, I guess he doesn't fit well in the Zimmer defense.

Before this season, he was looking like an absolute monster.

Hope he can get it back together
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#178 » by Mr B » Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:01 am

azcatz11 wrote:
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Mr B wrote:You’re crazy if you think Sanders and Ward aren’t going in the top 5.

It's very possible. You're going to get a wide variety of opinions on both guys. Some teams might not view either one as 1st round material. I've seen most draft analysts say that both would be QB 5 or 6 at best in last year's draft.


I'd be pretty surprised.

Titans, Browns, Giants & Raiders all need QB. Even if the Titans move out of that draft slot...I think it's a lock they both go top 5.

This draft seems awful tbh. I'm looking at mocks and it seems like everyone in the first round is just....kind of a role player in NFL terms I guess. Besides Abdul Carter, who are you excited about? Tyler Warren?

I’ve seen some say that there are only 3 truly elite players in this draft Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, and Ashton Jeanty. After that pretty much every guy is flawed or just not as good.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#179 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:27 am

Mr B wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:It's very possible. You're going to get a wide variety of opinions on both guys. Some teams might not view either one as 1st round material. I've seen most draft analysts say that both would be QB 5 or 6 at best in last year's draft.


I'd be pretty surprised.

Titans, Browns, Giants & Raiders all need QB. Even if the Titans move out of that draft slot...I think it's a lock they both go top 5.

This draft seems awful tbh. I'm looking at mocks and it seems like everyone in the first round is just....kind of a role player in NFL terms I guess. Besides Abdul Carter, who are you excited about? Tyler Warren?

I’ve seen some say that there are only 3 truly elite players in this draft Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, and Ashton Jeanty. After that pretty much every guy is flawed or just not as good.

Hunter & Carter are viewed as the consensus top 2. After that there's a lot of uncertainty.

The value of a RB makes it difficult to peg someone like Jeanty. Some teams might view him as worthy of being a top 5 pick, and others might not.

This draft is light on impact players. There just isn't the same value this year at the top. Teams might be better off trading down & accumulating more picks.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#180 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:46 am

If you need a Guard, this is a good draft to take one. Even some of the highly rated Tackles in this class likely are better suited to end up at Guard.
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