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Post#21 » by Otis Driftwood » Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:26 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Guys, I'm not sure what to do now. Thank God the draft is a ways down the road. I know Jack is an ultra talented freak of nature and all that, but this partial knee tear has me worried. Maybe the best thing to do here is see what kind of deal we can get and move back a bit and gain some extra draft choices. Billings or another DT-1 is the way to go and get another LB in round 2.


That's why I'm not digging too deep right now. Plenty of time to drill down to who we think they should take. Only restriction for me is whoever we take needs to be in the front 7 Defensively and be ready to hit the ground running opening day.
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Post#22 » by Mr B » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:24 am

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Guys, I'm not sure what to do now. Thank God the draft is a ways down the road. I know Jack is an ultra talented freak of nature and all that, but this partial knee tear has me worried. Maybe the best thing to do here is see what kind of deal we can get and move back a bit and gain some extra draft choices. Billings or another DT-1 is the way to go and get another LB in round 2.


The Cowboys will not draft a 1-tech in the 1st round. They do not put that much value on them.

Finding out that Jack's knee injury is worse than originally thought and the fact that he will not be running at the Combine there is no way I draft him at #4. They've had a tendency to draft guys with injuries because they were a "bargain" but and injured Myles Jack would NOT be a bargain at 4.

The way things seem (as of right now) it looks like Wentz is likely to go #2 to Cleveland and Ramsey at 3 to San Diego. That would leave Bosa and Goff there at #4. I know you guys are in on defense but if Goff is there at 4 they have to take him.
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Post#23 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:14 am

There is a possibility here we could end up with 2 first round draft choices if we play our cards right. Rams are so loaded on defense and have their stud EB. I think they make a play and move up. Like Houston, the Rams are just a QB from being a very dangerous team.
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Post#24 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:54 am

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Guys, I'm not sure what to do now. Thank God the draft is a ways down the road. I know Jack is an ultra talented freak of nature and all that, but this partial knee tear has me worried. Maybe the best thing to do here is see what kind of deal we can get and move back a bit and gain some extra draft choices. Billings or another DT-1 is the way to go and get another LB in round 2.


The Cowboys will not draft a 1-tech in the 1st round. They do not put that much value on them.

Finding out that Jack's knee injury is worse than originally thought and the fact that he will not be running at the Combine there is no way I draft him at #4. They've had a tendency to draft guys with injuries because they were a "bargain" but and injured Myles Jack would NOT be a bargain at 4.

The way things seem (as of right now) it looks like Wentz is likely to go #2 to Cleveland and Ramsey at 3 to San Diego. That would leave Bosa and Goff there at #4. I know you guys are in on defense but if Goff is there at 4 they have to take him.

Well then they better start putting more value on a 1-thch DT. We haven't had one since Leon Lett and have been rebuilding for 20 years now. We've drafted CB's, LB's and pass rushers. Where has that gotten us? Time to change our thinking. Every time we have had a championship or Super Bowl team, one main constant was a dominating DT. Bob Lilly - Jethro Pugh, Randy white, etc,. Like with you on QB, for me, its finally damn time for a DT.
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Post#25 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:58 am

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Guys, I'm not sure what to do now. Thank God the draft is a ways down the road. I know Jack is an ultra talented freak of nature and all that, but this partial knee tear has me worried. Maybe the best thing to do here is see what kind of deal we can get and move back a bit and gain some extra draft choices. Billings or another DT-1 is the way to go and get another LB in round 2.


The Cowboys will not draft a 1-tech in the 1st round. They do not put that much value on them.

Finding out that Jack's knee injury is worse than originally thought and the fact that he will not be running at the Combine there is no way I draft him at #4. They've had a tendency to draft guys with injuries because they were a "bargain" but and injured Myles Jack would NOT be a bargain at 4.

The way things seem (as of right now) it looks like Wentz is likely to go #2 to Cleveland and Ramsey at 3 to San Diego. That would leave Bosa and Goff there at #4. I know you guys are in on defense but if Goff is there at 4 they have to take him.

Well its time to put more value on them. We haven't had a great DT since Leon Lett. Every championship or Super Bowl team was anchored by a dominating DT. Lilly, Pugh, White, Lett, etc,. We've drafted CBs, LB's and Pass rushers for 20 years. Where has that gotten us?
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Post#26 » by Mr B » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:06 am

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Guys, I'm not sure what to do now. Thank God the draft is a ways down the road. I know Jack is an ultra talented freak of nature and all that, but this partial knee tear has me worried. Maybe the best thing to do here is see what kind of deal we can get and move back a bit and gain some extra draft choices. Billings or another DT-1 is the way to go and get another LB in round 2.


The Cowboys will not draft a 1-tech in the 1st round. They do not put that much value on them.

Finding out that Jack's knee injury is worse than originally thought and the fact that he will not be running at the Combine there is no way I draft him at #4. They've had a tendency to draft guys with injuries because they were a "bargain" but and injured Myles Jack would NOT be a bargain at 4.

The way things seem (as of right now) it looks like Wentz is likely to go #2 to Cleveland and Ramsey at 3 to San Diego. That would leave Bosa and Goff there at #4. I know you guys are in on defense but if Goff is there at 4 they have to take him.

Well then they better start putting more value on a 1-thch DT. We haven't had one since Leon Lett and have been rebuilding for 20 years now. We've drafted CB's, LB's and pass rushers. Where has that gotten us? Time to change our thinking. Every time we have had a championship or Super Bowl team, one main constant was a dominating DT. Bob Lilly - Jethro Pugh, Randy white, etc,. Like with you on QB, for me, its finally damn time for a DT.


I agree they should put more value on a 1-tech DT. Both Jerry and Stephen have both said that they don't see drafting a 1-tech in the 1st round as good value. That a 1-tech can be found in the middles rounds just as easy as finding one in the first. Basically they're a dime a dozen and not much separates a 1st round 1-tech and 7th round 1-tech. That's their thinking not mine.

In my opinion a defense should be built inside out. A great D line will make every other level of your defense better. And it's not just the Cowboys that won with a great DT. Pretty much every single champion in history has had a great DT.
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Post#27 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:10 am

Let me ask you this then. WE all now Cleveland has to take a QB with there pick. I would be very surprised if San Diego takes a QB. So here we are at #4. Both the Rams and Houston calls us up and offers us multiple and extra draft picks to get their QB? I'm thinking for just this year, lets forget about the QB if this happens. Hell, we could get a couple first and extra 2nd round pick and just go absolutely nuts on defense with our first 4 picks. If we were smart and lucky, we could actually get 3 first round picks in value. I kinda like this idea.
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Post#28 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:18 am

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Guys, I'm not sure what to do now. Thank God the draft is a ways down the road. I know Jack is an ultra talented freak of nature and all that, but this partial knee tear has me worried. Maybe the best thing to do here is see what kind of deal we can get and move back a bit and gain some extra draft choices. Billings or another DT-1 is the way to go and get another LB in round 2.


The Cowboys will not draft a 1-tech in the 1st round. They do not put that much value on them.

Finding out that Jack's knee injury is worse than originally thought and the fact that he will not be running at the Combine there is no way I draft him at #4. They've had a tendency to draft guys with injuries because they were a "bargain" but and injured Myles Jack would NOT be a bargain at 4.

The way things seem (as of right now) it looks like Wentz is likely to go #2 to Cleveland and Ramsey at 3 to San Diego. That would leave Bosa and Goff there at #4. I know you guys are in on defense but if Goff is there at 4 they have to take him.

I disagree. We don't have to take Goff, if your scenario hold true. I can see at least 2 teams that will give up the farm for our pick and it just might be in our best interest to listen. As they say in the "GODFATHER" :D , they might make an offer we can't refuse.
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Post#29 » by Mr B » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:54 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Guys, I'm not sure what to do now. Thank God the draft is a ways down the road. I know Jack is an ultra talented freak of nature and all that, but this partial knee tear has me worried. Maybe the best thing to do here is see what kind of deal we can get and move back a bit and gain some extra draft choices. Billings or another DT-1 is the way to go and get another LB in round 2.


The Cowboys will not draft a 1-tech in the 1st round. They do not put that much value on them.

Finding out that Jack's knee injury is worse than originally thought and the fact that he will not be running at the Combine there is no way I draft him at #4. They've had a tendency to draft guys with injuries because they were a "bargain" but and injured Myles Jack would NOT be a bargain at 4.

The way things seem (as of right now) it looks like Wentz is likely to go #2 to Cleveland and Ramsey at 3 to San Diego. That would leave Bosa and Goff there at #4. I know you guys are in on defense but if Goff is there at 4 they have to take him.

I disagree. We don't have to take Goff, if your scenario hold true. I can see at least 2 teams that will give up the farm for our pick and it just might be in our best interest to listen. As they say in the "GODFATHER" :D , they might make an offer we can't refuse.


Yea that's always an option. The deal would HAVE to be really sweet though to pass on Goff.
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Post#30 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:05 pm

So I guess with pot smoking Gregory's suspension, Jerry will bring back Hardy and McClain, now so you can have your QB.
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Post#31 » by Mr B » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:30 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:So I guess with pot smoking Gregory's suspension, Jerry will bring back Hardy and McClain, now so you can have your QB.


The fact that Gregory is out for 4 games (which could be extended to a year if he fails
Another drug test) I think means that Knee Jerk Jerry will strongly consider taking Bosa at 4 if he's there.
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Post#32 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:12 am

Sounds great, huh? Looks like neither of us will get what we want and need now.
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Post#33 » by Mr B » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:26 am

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Sounds great, huh? Looks like neither of us will get what we want and need now.


That is exactly what I think will happen. We will all be disappointed by the time the draft is over.
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Post#34 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:46 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:So I guess with pot smoking Gregory's suspension, Jerry will bring back Hardy and McClain, now so you can have your QB.


The fact that Gregory is out for 4 games (which could be extended to a year if he fails
Another drug test) I think means that Knee Jerk Jerry will strongly consider taking Bosa at 4 if he's there.

We may have no choice if Bosa is available. And in all fairness being objective here, taking Bosa wouldn't hurt our cause at all. We still need a LB and a DT-1Tech in the very next rounds IMHO.
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Post#35 » by Mr B » Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:02 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:So I guess with pot smoking Gregory's suspension, Jerry will bring back Hardy and McClain, now so you can have your QB.


The fact that Gregory is out for 4 games (which could be extended to a year if he fails
Another drug test) I think means that Knee Jerk Jerry will strongly consider taking Bosa at 4 if he's there.

We may have no choice if Bosa is available. And in all fairness being objective here, taking Bosa wouldn't hurt our cause at all. We still need a LB and a DT-1Tech in the very next rounds IMHO.


I just think Bosa has the biggest potential to be a bust.
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Post#36 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:47 pm

How did you come to that conclusion? Despite what I want and feel our team needs, he is the highest rated player of ANY position coming up in this year's draft. And Just about every mock draft I have seen has Bosa at the very top as well. I'm just asking because if you feel that way and perhaps right, then just maybe you support my earlier suggesting in moving down in the draft and acquiring extra picks we need.
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Post#37 » by Mr B » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:19 am

bluejerseyjinx wrote:How did you come to that conclusion? Despite what I want and feel our team needs, he is the highest rated player of ANY position coming up in this year's draft. And Just about every mock draft I have seen has Bosa at the very top as well. I'm just asking because if you feel that way and perhaps right, then just maybe you support my earlier suggesting in moving down in the draft and acquiring extra picks we need.


Everyone is comparing him to JJ Watt and I just don't see it. I don't think he's anywhere near the level of JJ Watt and anything he does, especially at stopping the run. The hype is so much that I think he's bound to fail. I could be completely wrong I just think he's going to be a bust.

Like I said in the other thread, if the Cowboys have completely given up the idea of drafting a QB (which I don't think they have) I would prefer for them to trade back (still within the top 10) and pick up an extra 2nd. They could then draft one of the top DT's and a MLB in the 2nd. If Hackenberg is gone in the 2nd (which seems very likely now) the use the extra 2nd on a DE or RB.
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Post#38 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:11 am

Taking a QB with all these new developments makes no sense now. Taking a QB would only hurt us even more now.
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Post#39 » by Mr B » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:11 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Taking a QB with all these new developments makes no sense now. Taking a QB would only hurt us even more now.


This team is going to be hurting regardless of who they draft. If they spend the entire draft on defense and sign the best defensive players available in FA they will still be screwed once Romo gets hurt.
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Post#40 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:48 am

I agree. That's why its going to be another 3 years before we are truly relevant again. Maybe longer with Jerry in charge and this revolving door of thugs for a culture.

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